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Microsoft: The Xbox 360's 10 Year Lifecycle Could Overlap With Next-Gen
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flyinpiranha
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BLagiver said:
What is this? This is shit from a fanboy writing factory that's on strike. Fucking terrible contribution and you should be ashamed of yourself. Unless you are being sarcastic, then well done.
Anyway, I don't think they'll unveil in 2012 to be honest. They're riding a wave right now and with all the great games coming out (for consoles in general) in the next few months it wouldn't be a great move to show the next one at this point. I'm unsure of the "PS2 power" that the 360 will have. Who knows though, in this economy which really I don't personally see changing for another 4-5 years maybe the $99 sweet spot will garner more sales than I think.
I assume they'll unveil at E3 2013. I honestly don't see the Wii U as a huge "sweat" factor for Sony nor Microsoft. Anecdotal, but they lost a lot of consumer loyalty from me with the 3DS launch and I won't be a "day 1" for any of their hardware products for the near future unless it launches with one hell of a software lineup.
MightyHedgehog
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It'd be an interesting way to coax early sales as well as giving a little more perceived value to the existing X360 release, but if it does happen in a major way, I would expect all first party and select third party releases to be a part of it. Of course, it seems just as likely that they could always just release an upgraded version of a title at full price considering the success of some of the recent HD re-releases.Marrshu said:
I don't think it will matter much, just like it doesn't really matter to most if high-end PCs available now are ten or more times the horsepower of a currently five- and six-year old consoles. The fixed specs and relatively down-to-metal access afforded by dedicated hardware and mature development software should allow for performance and next-gen sheen to be more than enough for most people...especially when you factor total upfront purchases between the two choices. I also don't think most people considering a gaming system are really putting both a similarly-capable personal computer and a new console on the same comparison table when mulling over a purchase...that will be limited to the much smaller group of hardcore players who tend to be early adopters, anyway.Omikaru said:
It will still come down to accessibility, features, and software to differentiate and that's why you see so many still buying millions of consoles and console games despite their age and limited capability relative to the average desktop PC. The upcoming gen will be a lot smoother to transition to than last gen where everything basically had to take a long, expensive, and bumpy road to adapting to and decently utilizing the multithread/multicore CPU and modern graphics tech, so more impressive results should really be out in front, starting with the launch titles.
flyinpiranha
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SeanR1221 said:
I don't mind any of those.
I really, really, really, really, really hope that it is B/C with current XBLA games though.
RoadHazard
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So they're not gonna kill the 360 off the second its successor comes out this time around? That's good.
plagiarize
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how can anyone still think that 'No plans to announce anything' is anything other than a complete confirmation of the rumour?TheOddOne said:
I think this is entirely dependent on when they launch and who they're going up against at the time. If, once again, they jump out ahead of Sony by a year, I don't think they need to release a huge title like Gears or Halo at launch. People will buy the system regardless, simply because it's new and improved. They can save the next Gears or Halo 5 to counter the launch of PS4.SeanR1221 said:
If they launch, head-to-head, against PS4, then they will definitely pull out a proverbial big gun for launch.
plagiarize
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an unveiling at E3 next year would be completely in line with a 2013 debut.angelfly said:
Benjamin1981
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plagiarize said:
Too early for a holiday 2013 release. They will show it for the first time in the same year that they release it.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Benjamin1981 said:
The PS3's fake demos were shown 18 months before its release.
Shurs said:
Good point.
As for BC with XBLA games, I've been saying this for a while...
You'll pay a license transfer fee (800-1600 points) and not all the XBLA games will make the cut, but most will.
However, I'm sure most developers will push for XBLA BC. I mean, it's not like the games take up any shelf space, and they're just hanging around earning them money.
GuiltySpank
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Well, I was going to buy a slim with Kinect at the next price drop, but I'll just hang on to my fatty and save up for 2013 for Xbox Next and Kinect 2.0 which will probably be smaller, cheaper to produce and more accurate.
Backfoggen
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Can't wait for the Full-HD remakes that we'll get next-gen, because you just now BC isn't going to happen in a reliable way.
Omikaru said:
Pretty close to reallity. The question is will it be one or two years left in the 10 cycle. I also think 360 will sale beyond 2015, but who knows how long.
As far as next-gen MS goes I think they could have a very rough generation and especially so if Sony comes out first which I have a feeling they will or at the very least the same time. MS played a lot of right cards this generation, but 1 retail core exclusive in nearly a year? Do they think this will work next-gen? They bought a lot of 3rd party exclusives and 3rd party exclusive DLC on the backs of being first, but no way that is going to happen next gen if Sony comes out first or at the same time which leaves them where they are today. Riding the 3rd party wave with some Kinect thrown in while reducing their first party studios to very few. They will keep riding the profit wave as long as they can, but even then soon enough the RD costs will sink into that to launch the next platform. Unless they really start to build their first party it is going to be a very interesting launch and sustain for them next gen. The one plus from this gen is they have a whole lot more fans this gen than last.
Benjamin1981
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Yeah and that did more damage than good.
Zoramon089
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theskat said:I just want E3 2012 Microsoft conference end with the word "Imagine...." and then show a 30 second clip that TOTALLY blows whatever then-current PC game out of this world! Then the numbers 2014 blur for just for the tinyest moment on the screen, and then... silence. Then, let the GAF meltdown begins.
So you want them to completely lie
Parmenides
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People see what they want to see.GavinGT said:
The only thing we know for sure is that retailers, publishers,developers and analysts don't expect new PS or XB consoles before 2014.Metro said:
Avalanche Studios: New hardware in 2014 (June 20,2011)
GameStop: Xbox 720 and PS4 not out until 2014 (July 15,2011)
Skyrim boss: No PS4, Xbox 720 before 2014 (3 Aug,2011)
Analysts at IDC: Xbox 720 in 2014;PS4 in 2015 (Aug 18,2011)
Interestingly enough, this week we found out that THQ is clueless about PS4 or Xbox 720.
THQs Danny Bilson
Oppo
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SeanR1221 said:
Can you be more specific? I'm just wondering, what else they could do in this regard. Assuming the current level of Live integration is merely Sane, of course.
If there's no new MS hardware announcement at next E3, that does validate Nintendo's Wii U strategy somewhat more than before, at least to me.
I do think it'll be 2014/2015 for MS and Sony. I had originally thought 2013 but there's a reason that flurry of articles all agree with each other.
DaSorcerer7
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Mindman said:
LOL
Heh. So you think they'll go with a GPU equivalent to the top card and an 8+ core CPU? you wanna bet on that?Mindman said:
I'm thinking they'll announce it next E3 (but not with much info or games) to pop the Wii U's hype balloon, and it'll launch some time in 2013 (probably November) and will use the 28nm process. It'll be about 10x the current gen and 2-4x Wii U. (On-par with the 6950 in terms of GPU power unless a radical new GPU architecture comes out of nowhere.) It'll have a single $349.99 SKU with a 500GB HDD.
plagiarize
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and the Wii being unveiled the year before it came out? did that do damage or good?Benjamin1981 said:
Barack Lesnar
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If the rumored specs for the Wii U are true I doubt MS and Sony are too worried about it... it's more like a current gen or 1.5 type of system. I'd love a 2013 announcement of the next-gen consoles then a 2014 launch, but we'll probably see 2012 and 2013 instead.Medalion said:
Edit, just read Parmenides' post...good news about 2014! Hope those quotes are accurate.
parsed down this really is saying the life-cycle of the current gen will be less that 10 years. There's always been overlap . . . they still sell PS2s afterall . . . so really what he's saying is 'we'll support the 360 even after out new console launches - wink" - which frankly sounds like bullshit to me. I guess this is good news for those wanting new consoles to come out, but kinda suck for those of us who wanted a long generation.
Angelus Errare
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Who seriously thought they meant it would be 10+ years before they release the new system due to the 360 still being on shelves? I mean really?
Megadragon15
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The Nintendo Family Computer (1983) had its successor, the Super Famicom (1990), introduced in seven years.kswiston said:
TheExecutive
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If anything Sony will beat them to the punch. There is nothing holding Sony back technology wise that would make them forfeit a year to the 360. It just won't happen again.Omikaru said:
WickedCobra03
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I am feeling the same thing here. Sure, the WiiU will beat them out the door, but I feel like the actual gamers are not going to be too swayed. I am going to go one further and say that E3 2013 the Next-gen Xbox will be announced and released in November.Omikaru said:
TheExecutive
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From a personal standpoint- If new consoles don't come out until 2014 or 2015 these manufacturers will have rammed whatever relevancy they had left into the ground.PortTwo said:
sixteen-bit
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Not surprising.
Phoenician_Viking
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We already knew that Microsoft.
TheExecutive
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Wouldn't that be a historically long time between an announcement and the release of the console? I mean that's like 17 months in advanceBurntPork said:
Gunmonkey36
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Let us all just pray that they learned from their engineering mistakes with the 360.
A failure rate on launch version of a console should never ever be above 50% or even close to that.
A failure rate on launch version of a console should never ever be above 50% or even close to that.