massivekettle
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That's a rumour from last year, right? Or has it been confirmed?
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That's a rumour from last year, right? Or has it been confirmed?
massivekettle
Member
I agree, but in Microsoft's defense, the timed exclusivity deal was struck before Microsoft's purchase of Bethesda was announced and cleared by the various antitrust bodies.
I agree, however, that the availability of first-party games is becoming an issue for Microsoft (especially given Halo's delay), which is probably why they are trying to sweeten the deal by getting as many Day 1 GamePass games as possible.
Perrott
Gold Member
Several individuals have been vetted by Era mods regarding their information on the subject.
dcx4610
Member
Metal Gear would fit in with the Xbox brand well. Kinda ironic how big of a deal Splinter Cell was to the original Xbox which was a more realistic take on Metal Gear. Now, we might be getting Metal Gear as a flagship brand.
I root for this kind of stuff. Xbox seriously needs more than Gears/Halo/Forza.
I root for this kind of stuff. Xbox seriously needs more than Gears/Halo/Forza.
Matsuchezz
Member
And what would MS do with the IP? They would need to buy Kojima too. But all in all, I rather have Kojima working on something else than MG. Even though I could not finish MGS5 nor Death Stranding, I rather see him work on something new. I do not believe this rumor at all. If so, they would work on remasters on their BC program I do not see anyone else creating MG games and certainly not any of Microsoft Game Studios.
Neff
Member
Snake, press the Lalilulelo button to crawl
Banjo64
cumsessed
Atrocious value considering the only console games they make nowadays are... Pro Evo.
They’d get a publisher like SEGA for less who actually still make a lot of popular games like Football Manager, Total War, Persona, Shin Megami Tensei, Yakuza and Sonic.
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Bryank75
Banned
The issues would be that Konami are very diverse... they have gyms and pachinko and bottled water and all these smaller businesses, they are also heavily involved with the Yakuza apparently.
8.3 is the basic market cap and usually companies sell for 30% or more than the market cap.
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Negotiator101
Member
Not a problem for Microsoft, that's pocket change. They get the MGS IP and that's enough, I don't know how much the IP is worth though, any guess?
twilo99
Member
.. a very good point.
Naked Lunch
Member
Metal Gear next to Metroid, Ace Combat, and Halo are my favorite gaming franchises.
This one seems too far fetched.
I dont see the value here other than to get MGS 1 and 4 in the same place as the others.
Current Xboxes already run Solid 2, 3, Peace Walker, and 5 - also the MSXs' MG1 and 2.
No one has proven they can make Metal Gear outside of Kojima - and hes said countless times hes done with the series.
Id still like to think there are some game designers out there who can do the series justice - I feel like MG still has so much to give.
Would be interesting though.
This one seems too far fetched.
I dont see the value here other than to get MGS 1 and 4 in the same place as the others.
Current Xboxes already run Solid 2, 3, Peace Walker, and 5 - also the MSXs' MG1 and 2.
No one has proven they can make Metal Gear outside of Kojima - and hes said countless times hes done with the series.
Id still like to think there are some game designers out there who can do the series justice - I feel like MG still has so much to give.
Would be interesting though.
Bryank75
Banned
How much cash do you think they have? Just curious...
JimboJones
Member
I would be up for more MGS, don't care who does it.
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Shodan09
Unconfirmed Member
Lmao no that was gears 3. At least do your research.
Negotiator101
Member
$130 billion, like I say pocket change.
Hatemachine
Banned
I would buy an Xbox for the sole purpose of playing MGS6
hyperbertha
Member
Jim Ryan would deserve it. Let playstation 5 fail spectacularly this gen. As a playstation fan, I don't care. If xbox gets the japanese focus that playstation used to have, I'm jumping ship. Playstation = japan. Couldn't care less about their mediocre western developers. Looking at you guerilla and ND.
sainraja
Member
You know, that could very much be the case here. This honestly wouldn't surprise me. Maybe Kojima does want to work on MGS again and found a partner in Microsoft? I mean, right now, Microsoft seems to be very open in making investments so, they might be the people to talk to about it.Little boy Kojima asked to Daddy Microsoft to bring its toy back
I've tried getting into MGS but could never finish any of them (I have them all though so someday, lol). What exactly about the series is Japanese though? (Is it like the style of game play in it? I would never think Japanese simply off of what I have played of the series and seen trailerwise.)
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hyperbertha
Member
It is developed by Kojima, and has the storytelling focus that typically only Japanese games have. Also the cinematic flare and many gameplay design decisions in the series are quintessentially japanese.
sainraja
Member
Ah gotcha. I probably would have picked up on that if I spent more time with the games (or maybe I don't associate gameplay as being Japanese or American). The only one I think I spent more time on was MGS4.
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Because without Kojima MGS is dead IP, with no future.
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reinking
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I love the way people like to spend MS money like they are not a business and do not answer to board members/shareholders.
True , but big companies have big wallets... and that’s MS.
yurinka
Member
Not true. They will get a ton of money of the upcoming MGS movie.
And as an example, they can make that MGS collection, remasters or remakes without him. And also mobile games, pachinkos or jogging machines for their gyms. More movies and tv series. They also could hire Platinum to make MGR2. All these things would work without Kojima.
Konami also has a big wallet, and if they don't want to sell doesn't matter how big is the wallet of MS or Sony.
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Putonahappyface
Member
At this rate theyll be no multi platform games just exclusives and I'm pretty sure that's a bad thing whatever platform people play on.
In hand? Or that they are able to raise?
Javthusiast
Banned
I hope it's true. Doubt that Kojima himself would work on it outside of maybe being a producer, cause he wants to do new things, but MS owning the license sounds better than fucking EA or Ubisoft getting it.
normalguy09x
Member
Because Sony does not go out and outright buy large 3rd party developers like MS has done and is continually trying to do, Sony is nowhere close to becoming a monopoly because "timed exclusive" is not monopolizing anything as compared to outright buying the company.
bentanchorbolt
Banned
False. If someone like The Coalition got their hands on MGS and did a from the ground up reboot in UE5, for sure people would be flocking in droves to play that game.
Rayven_king
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Dabaus
Banned
Yall, before this takes off, if you read the tweets and replies he says its just for fun.
Yeah, it's just him fantasy drafting the MGS Vi team. I don't think Kojima wants to touch MGS Vi with a barge pole, I also rather him do a horror game.
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bender
What time is it?
No other team will be able to replicate the essence of Metal Gear, not narratively or mechanically.
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jhjfss
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CuteFaceJay
Member
Oi oi oi could you imagine if they did this and pretty much bank rolled for Kojima's game to go back to him?
Bryank75
Banned
Cash on hand... I know they have a bit over 130 billion. I'm just kinda astounded with how people think 20 billion is 'pocket change' even to MSFT. I guarantee them that the board and stockholders value that 20 billion and would not want to see it spent unwisely.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
with Windows.
Don't think its true but might be easier to license the ip's than deal with buying a Japanese company. Might not want to have to deal with selling off the non gaming parts of Konami.
SaturnSaturn
Member
Not gonna happen, dont konami have a bunch of mgs pachinkos etc that bring in huge money?
Up there with the stupidity of the sega rumor
Up there with the stupidity of the sega rumor
IP or Konami? It's easy to sell a IP for a specific medium so I don't think that's a big blocker
Hatemachine
Banned
It wouldn't be hard to conceive they could strike up a deal that allows Microsoft to take the game publishing rights for MGS and leaves Konami with the rights to the license for their fucking pachinko machines.
The bottom line is that MGS is a hugely valuable video game IP that is currently sitting around collecting dust. It's more valuable than anything in SEGA's catalog. It's not unreasonable to think Microsoft would make a play for it.
SaturnSaturn
Member
I just really dont see what upside konami has getting rid of the ip, even if its for a specific medium (but thats the only thing that makes sense if there where a deal), just feel that there is so many strange rumours, like the sega buyout rumour that was utterly stupid.
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SafeOrAlone
Banned
I don't know how anyone gets tired of Metal Gear Solid. Sure the story doesn't always pull through, but each game in the series both unique from one another, as well as having deep and often innovative mechanics.
I think that’s a good point, but it feels like a backtrack on your previous comment, even so. Either way, they don’t seem anywhere near having a monopoly, so I don’t understand the idea that they are trying to become one by buying Bethesda, especially after all the crud they have rightfully taken for having no games.