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Movie ratings: Sex remains top concern for American parents, not violence

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Considering I can turn on basic cable and watch blood being spewed everywhere on almost every crime drama or cop show, as well as shows like Bones and Supernatural, but the mere thought of a nipple accidentally showing on live TV sends the country into a tizzy... All I gotta say is, we need to work on the fucking puritan ideas. This is ridiculous.
It's because American obscenity laws are based on what is thought to be sexually gratifying, and it is the opinion of the government of the United States that no one would find such extreme violence or other disturbing content to be sexy. It's also why you sometimes see some pretty fetishistic -- but not conventionally suggestive -- material on television, even in shows ostensibly meant for kids to watch.
 
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Aske

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My parents were pretty relaxed towards sex and that kind of explicit stuff in movies over violence.

The odd thing about that being I was way more awkward watching a sexually charged scene with them in the room compared to violence.

I find that fascinating

This is the real reason these ratings exist. It's not about whether or not sexual or violent imagery harms children (we all know it doesn't), it's about parental embarassment; and adults feeling weirded out by their kids' sexualities.

"My 13 year old is a child! All things vaguely erotic or sexual are only for adults! He doesn't need to know what a boob is. And I don't want to tell him. And I certainly don't want to be in the same room as him when a boob somehow slips through the net and gets into his brain, because I'd feel so weird!"

...Except in your case, because your parents were relaxed, and you were the one feeling weird.
 

Ronin

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I remember watching one of the Halloween movies on TV. Of course they censored all the boobs and bad language, but had no problem showing people getting graphically butchered. America is weird.
 

Valhelm

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Attitudes towards sex in a specific culture don't always relax over time. I wouldn't be all that surprised if the coming generation of kids is more conservative about sex than their parents (our gen) or grandparents (teenagers from the 60-70s).

Why?
 

WoolyNinja

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I truly think most people in America would be more afraid of me standing near them in my underwear than standing near them with a gun, and that's ridiculous and sad.
 

Ms.Galaxy

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Is seeing a pair of boobs really that damaging?

Dude, when I saw my first boob online when I was 13, it changed my life forever. I started questioning everything about myself and life.

Then I saw a Neogaf sized penis and I stopped questioning everything as I became enlightened.
 

Farsi

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This is the real reason these ratings exist. It's not about whether or not sexual or violent imagery harms children (we all know it doesn't), it's about parental embarassment; and adults feeling weirded out by their kids' sexualities.

Heh, show your 11 year old child the wolf of wall street, lets see how he or she turns out dad.
 

Aske

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Heh, show your 11 year old child the wolf of wall street, lets see how he or she turns out dad.

You'll understand when you're older, boy. I love you just as much as your brother. Now let's open a bag of chips and watch Predator.
 
Dude, when I saw my first boob online when I was 13, it changed my life forever. I started questioning everything about myself and life.

Then I saw a Neogaf sized penis and I stopped questioning everything as I became enlightened.

What is a NeoGAF sized penis? Asking for a friend of course.
 
It's like the moment breeders ejaculate and fertilize an egg they forget the first 18 (possibly 40) years of their lives. lmao.
 
Do they not look at the context? In the UK you couldn't drop a fuck just for the sake of it, you'd get a 15 or 18 certificate for that.
But if it's in context as some really emotional scene or something and it's seen worth it or adding to it or educational or whatever then they'll let it in on a PG or 12.
They actually watch the films and take in the context.

(We have U, 12, 12A, 15 and 18 and they're enforced by law. As in a cinema or a shop would be prosecuted for letting a 14 year old see a 15 rated film)

I remember seeing that blurred out f-you note when watching breaking bad on Netflix and thinking it was insanely weird - I believe they've changed it to unedited on UK Netflix now because everyone laughed at it.

I remember seeing films on American TV that were beeped for swearing but had the most ridiculous violence in them, at like 10 am, when I was over there - and thinking it was insane.
 
I wonder how Americans react to classical art like this:

Not all americans, mostly the old guard alot of whom still hold on to the insanely puritan principles on which our nation and christianity was built, one of which being that sex is evil and you should feel bad for enjoying it. Id say give it a generation or so.
 

Forkball

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I still think Cameron or someone bribed the MPAA to get Titanic a PG13 rating due to the nudity. What PG13 film since then has had that much nudity? Not to mention Titanic was also pretty violent.
 

Square2015

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Yay violent video games! Since kids get access to violent video games so easily today (CoD, GTA have outsold the original Nintendo classics etc) and as they've become so prevalent it's no surprise parents would be desensitized to it as much as their kids are exposed to violence.

A large number of 11-12 year olds say they've played GTA, I don't remember the numbers but it was disturbingly high. From a survey of teen media usage.
 

soco

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there's an interesting question about full male nudity compared to female nudity. is it just sampling effects? is it that it drives men and women crazy? Is it that people are sick of dick pics?
 
When I was 11 years old, my father took me to see a Charles Bronson film. It was the most realistically violent thing I'd ever witnessed up until that time and it really left an impression on me. Oh, but no worries, because he made me cover up my eyes during the sex scenes.
I remember watching Netflix' Daredevil and they wouldn't show a girl's nipple but I got to see gruesome murders and even brains splattered in the pavement. But a nipple from the boob of a perfectly healthy woman is where we draw the line.

I'm not saying I need nudity to enjoy something, I'm saying this double standard is fucking stupid.
 

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well violence didn't get them into their current predicaments, did it?

Hah

Depressed at that disparity between male and female nudity. Even to Christians or whoever the sample was, female objectification is more acceptable.

Bleh
 
American parents are morons. They worry about their 12 year old son seeing a sex scene in a rated R movie and will do anything to prevent him from seeing a hollywood movie with too much explicit content. Meanwhile, he's watching hardcore porn on his iPad and mobile phone unbeknownst to them.
 

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American parents are morons. They worry about their 12 year old son seeing a sex scene in a rated R movie and will do anything to prevent him from seeing a hollywood movie with too much explicit content. Meanwhile, he's watching hardcore porn on his iPad and mobile phone unbeknownst to them.

This is by far the most encouraging thing I've read in this thread lol
 

Synless

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As an American and a parent I don't and never will understand this. Violence is infinitely worse for my kid to see than a seeing someone nudity. The fuck is wrong with people here?
 
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