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I've been the recipient of quite a bit of anger from people who are convinced that the NO DRM people ruined what was going to be this amazing thing. While I made the argument that they don't need to shy away from digital innovations - I am a bit perplexed by why people are so convinced that the Family Share was going to be good.
Here's what we know.
PR said one thing (two people at a time, but not the same game, think of it as a library and checking books out)
Execs said another thing (two or more people at time, people playing MP games together)
And support said a third thing (6 people at once. MS twitter support is basically the new pastebin).
So that's all we knew. But there's another thing to consider... Major Nelson said late last week he was working on a detailed explanation of what the Family Plan was. That never came. This week he didn't respond to a single person asking him about it. And, as we know, they then changed policies.
So that, to me, says whatever the Family Share was - was not going to be enough to turn the tide against Microsoft. They didn't even have enough faith in it to fully explain it. So those of you who do - why? What info does anyone have that clarifies that it was going to be worth a shit.
And, of course, they could always continue it with digital sales as a way to incentivize us buying directly from them. But as of now there's not even that.
They had 12 days between announcing it and shitcanning it to fully explain it. They never did. I don't understand for a second the optimism that people feel given that MS wouldn't even bother to explain it. Like it was some secret awesome thing that microsoft was hiding?!??!
I'm so upset by this. Took away family sharing digital games, which is the future, and also kept the need for disc in tray. Gave me no internet connection needed - I'm on 24/7 as it is, that's not a benefit.
This helps almost no one. Anyone upset by the initial MS offering jumped to PS4 and will be too proud to jump back. Anyone who is a PS fanboy is already getting PS4.
All it's doing it hurting people who were going to buy and were excited about the new future features.
And Cboat was the closest thing we got to legitimate information. There's no denying their PR was a mess. It just would have been nice to get solid information from the source. Ugh.
PC - Console Market
Steam - Xbox One
PS4 - Disc from retailer
Wii U - Origin
etc.
Is it really that hard to understand?
Also, I don't see answer to my question:
Why you want feature from device, clearly not supported by design, and MS clearly says so. Who forces you to buy it?
It is seems you just against any changes and want to live in static word. You may not trust MS, but Sony don't even trying, how you will get steam with online sharing and discounts, when you don't make even one step towards it?
And once again, no one was forcing anyone to buy anything, but MS saw that a lot of people WEREN'T going to buy their system, and hence they made the change.
I've been the recipient of quite a bit of anger from people who are convinced that the NO DRM people ruined what was going to be this amazing thing. While I made the argument that they don't need to shy away from digital innovations - I am a bit perplexed by why people are so convinced that the Family Share was going to be good.
Here's what we know.
PR said one thing (two people at a time, but not the same game, think of it as a library and checking books out)
Execs said another thing (two or more people at time, people playing MP games together)
And support said a third thing (6 people at once. MS twitter support is basically the new pastebin).
So that's all we knew. But there's another thing to consider... Major Nelson said late last week he was working on a detailed explanation of what the Family Plan was. That never came. This week he didn't respond to a single person asking him about it. And, as we know, they then changed policies.
So that, to me, says whatever the Family Share was - was not going to be enough to turn the tide against Microsoft. They didn't even have enough faith in it to fully explain it. So those of you who do - why? What info does anyone have that clarifies that it was going to be worth a shit.
And, of course, they could always continue it with digital sales as a way to incentivize us buying directly from them. But as of now there's not even that.
They had 12 days between announcing it and shitcanning it to fully explain it. They never did. I don't understand for a second the optimism that people feel given that MS wouldn't even bother to explain it. Like it was some secret awesome thing that microsoft was hiding?!??!
Ever heard of Valve?
I've been the recipient of quite a bit of anger from people who are convinced that the NO DRM people ruined what was going to be this amazing thing. While I made the argument that they don't need to shy away from digital innovations - I am a bit perplexed by why people are so convinced that the Family Share was going to be good.
Here's what we know.
PR said one thing (two people at a time, but not the same game, think of it as a library and checking books out)
Execs said another thing (two or more people at time, people playing MP games together)
And support said a third thing (6 people at once. MS twitter support is basically the new pastebin).
So that's all we knew. But there's another thing to consider... Major Nelson said late last week he was working on a detailed explanation of what the Family Plan was. That never came. This week he didn't respond to a single person asking him about it. And, as we know, they then changed policies.
So that, to me, says whatever the Family Share was - was not going to be enough to turn the tide against Microsoft. They didn't even have enough faith in it to fully explain it. So those of you who do - why? What info does anyone have that clarifies that it was going to be worth a shit.
And, of course, they could always continue it with digital sales as a way to incentivize us buying directly from them. But as of now there's not even that.
They had 12 days between announcing it and shitcanning it to fully explain it. They never did. I don't understand for a second the optimism that people feel given that MS wouldn't even bother to explain it. Like it was some secret awesome thing that microsoft was hiding?!??!
That's what happens when the internet deems something 'unconstitutional' and starts screaming about digital rights.
Not sure if this was posted yet.. but Family Sharing was just a glorified 15-45 minute demo according the MS dev.
http://pastebin.com/TE1MWES2
"When your family member accesses any of your games, they're placed into a special demo mode. This demo mode in most cases would be the full game with a 15-45 minute timer and in some cases an hour. This allowed the person to play the game, get familiar with it then make a purchase if they wanted to. When the time limit was up they would automatically be prompted to the Marketplace so that they may order it if liked the game."
Posted already and I'm 50/50 if it's satire or real. It's feels real anyway.
is that source is trusted ?
is that source is trusted ?
That's what happens when a company does a poor job of selling a product to consumers
Why not? I used to buy PC games on floppy disk and then one day that stopped. Eventually physical disks are going to die, it wont be this gen but maybe the next. Some company is going to have to be the one to kill this shit off.
That's what happens when the internet deems something 'unconstitutional' and starts screaming about digital rights.
Polygon writer says that what was on pastebin was false, but that said, it was a Polygon writer and when asked for proof, he simply replied "believe me or not."
@aegies: "the xbox one game sharing thing was real. it was not demos. they had arrangements with publishers in place."
Polygon writer says that what was on pastebin was false, but that said, it was a Polygon writer and when asked for proof, he simply replied "believe me or not."
@aegies: "the xbox one game sharing thing was real. it was not demos. they had arrangements with publishers in place."
Unverified Pastebin post vs Arthur Gies. Pretty much a toss-up.Polygon writer says that what was on pastebin was false, but that said, it was a Polygon writer and when asked for proof, he simply replied "believe me or not."
@aegies: "the xbox one game sharing thing was real. it was not demos. they had arrangements with publishers in place."
Unverified Pastebin post vs Arthur Gies. Pretty much a toss-up.
Gies is barely more trustworthy than the pastebin.
LOL @ folks believing the pastebin post. It's so obviously anti MS that I can only believe those regurgitating it as fact are part of the SDF. As for the removal of family sharing: sigh. I guess this is the result of the strident and vocal anti-DRM minority wishing that all consoles stop evolving and advancing over time.
LOL @ folks believing the pastebin post. It's so obviously anti MS that I can only believe those regurgitating it as fact are part of the SDF. As for the removal of family sharing: sigh. I guess this is the result of the strident and vocal anti-DRM minority wishing that all consoles stop evolving and advancing over time.
LOL @ folks believing the pastebin post. It's so obviously anti MS that I can only believe those regurgitating it as fact are part of the SDF. As for the removal of family sharing: sigh. I guess this is the result of the strident and vocal anti-DRM minority wishing that all consoles stop evolving and advancing over time.
It doesn't make sense if only one other person can play the game.Posted already and I'm 50/50 if it's satire or real. It's feels real anyway.
Why would Microsoft care how many people are simultaneously playing a 15-45 min demo? Why would they limit you from "trying" the game from anyone at any time?
MS didn't give us many details, but some that they did directly address (# of simultaneous players) fly directly in the face of this "timed demo" rumor.
It's amazing how people are treating the pastebin as fact.....
Why are there limits to how many times you can play a demo on Wii U? Same logic applies to why MS would care how and when people can play demos.
Seriously? As cool as this feature sounds, sharing any games with 10 random friends without any hassle would have been worse than used games.
The Original XBot! Good to see you going strong, manLOL @ folks believing the pastebin post. It's so obviously anti MS that I can only believe those regurgitating it as fact are part of the SDF. As for the removal of family sharing: sigh. I guess this is the result of the strident and vocal anti-DRM minority wishing that all consoles stop evolving and advancing over time.
No one told MS to remove the family sharing plan. They just wanted DRM on discs removed.
They can still implement the family sharing plan if they want without touching the disc DRM. Nothing is stopping them. People need to redirect their disappointment at MS for not advancing consoles, not the consumers. Sigh
Wait so are you implying it's MS equivalent of "if people can play demo every time they want, some of them become bored/satisfied before they buy the game"?Why are there limits to how many times you can play a demo on Wii U? Same logic applies to why MS would care how and when people can play demos.
So that's all we knew. But there's another thing to consider... Major Nelson said late last week he was working on a detailed explanation of what the Family Plan was. That never came. This week he didn't respond to a single person asking him about it. And, as we know, they then changed policies.