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That it is. I have played it 2p and 3p both being great. Some of the newer maps are better for 2p (smaller) but I have yet to try them out.
I was able to pick up a cheap copy of Salsa on amazon last week ($19.37), looking forward to trying a game with the salt and forum cards added into the game.
Smoother? How?
Dwight Schrute
Member
Is gloomhaven the kind of "legacy" when you stick things and tear stuff ?
Or can you do a "complete reset" of the game like it has never been palyed ?
Or can you do a "complete reset" of the game like it has never been palyed ?
You don't seem to destroy stuff but the stickers definitely seem to be permanent (unless you scrub them off) and not removable.
The creator did however point out that there is a company selling removable and re-usable stickers who are going to create a second edition version for the updated game:
http://www.sinisterfish.com/product/gloomhaven-removable-sticker-set-retail/
It's been a while since I played Race (at least a few years), but I remember the iconography being a little clunkier, and the decisions a little bit more involved due to the multi-use cards. If I want to play a similarly themed card game, I prefer Eminent Domain.
I would like to know that as well. I personally like Race much more than Roll. To me Roll is a simplified version for those not willing to learn what the symbols do on the cards.
--Nice great news! I am excited for my copy to arrive.
Roll and Race for the Galaxy are hard to compare. They have more differences than similarities. I also think Eminent Domain comes up very short as an alternative, but it is a neat deck building game.
However, I don't know how you can have iconography issues with Race, and not Roll. It's the same icons.
However, I don't know how you can have iconography issues with Race, and not Roll. It's the same icons.
I personally don't have issues with the iconography, but several people in my group have said that was the issue with not liking Race vs Roll. They are both good games, but that tends to be they way I have seen others go. I think another factor is which did you learn to play first. Of my friends I think all but 1 like Roll over Race that learned to play Race first.
I can see the icons as a hurdle but after a few plays they are easy to understand. Honestly the one thing I love the most about Race is how crunchy each decision is while still beeing fast and streamlined to play. Roll just seems like a clunkier game with less decisions.
Next free GH mission(#2 of 10) is up after the road card event yesterday:
http://www.cephalofair.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/S2_AQS.pdf
Also I saw that Onirim is up now on digital format. iOS and Google Play only $0.99 right now.
http://www.cephalofair.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/S2_AQS.pdf
Also I saw that Onirim is up now on digital format. iOS and Google Play only $0.99 right now.
Modest Mauser
Member
The Gloomhaven reprint KS already at over 16k backers, I wish I had backed it a bit quicker, I wonder if the earlier backers might receive their copies a bit sooner? I read some people were waiting longer than expected for the last KS they did.
The people stuck waiting longer were because of Amazon messing up shipments. If you read the FAQ on the 2nd kickstarter it is brought up in there.
Polioliolio
Member
Ah.. I don't really care for legacy style games.. I mean, I'm sure I'd have a blast, but I loathe the idea of not being able to reset. When I play games, it's not scheduled, not a dedicated group of people necessarily, and is more or less on a whim. It just wouldn't suit me currently.
Megalosaro
Banned
Is Gloomhaven any good?
Yes. The average player rating is very high, and there are more detailed thoughts on the last page or two from GAFfers who own it.
Yes. It's not a flash in the pan mini heavy KS golden child. It's a rock solid tactical card management battler, with a long campaign, with elements of legacy games (but stuff can be reversed easily enough).
It's definitely not for everyone, for sure.
BassForever
Member
Gloomhaven sounds like a game I'd love but without a group to play with over the course of a few weeks/months it's not very practical.
Polioliolio
Member
Attempted to play Maskmen tonight. Each time we thought we understood the rules, we'd immediately have a new question that didn't seem to be answered in the rules. The most helpful reference was the video on the official website, although it was in Japanese, it had a helpful graphic, but not helpful enough.
Here's what I think I understand so far..
Host picks a wrestler for the new season, plays a single card, places a strength marker on the table.
Next player plays a different wrestler with at least +1 cards, but no more than three total cards. So either plays 2 cards for that new wrestler, or 3 cards, and puts his strength marker ahead of the first wrestler.
If 2 cards, the next player can play a third wrestler with 3 cards, adds the strength marker ahead of both those other wrestlers.
This is apparently now the end of the round (?).
My impression is that each time there are three cards played, you have to start a new round and try to figure out the strength values between tied wrestlers?.. I'm so confused. I've seen what you CAN do from the video, but I don't really know what you can't do.. Like, you can apparently play the cards of a wrestler whose strength was already determined, but you have the play the last number of cards played, but is that only of the former round's wrestlers? I mean, what if everyone just started playing 2 cards of every wrestler that was already on the table? Can you play the same guy twice in one round?
In the end, we hadn't a clue.
Can someone explain how to play this game, and in great detail?
Btw, my version is slightly different than every version in videos on the internet, but I think the main difference is in how you use the strength markers, so the gameplay part ought to be the same, I think.
Help!!
Here's what I think I understand so far..
Host picks a wrestler for the new season, plays a single card, places a strength marker on the table.
Next player plays a different wrestler with at least +1 cards, but no more than three total cards. So either plays 2 cards for that new wrestler, or 3 cards, and puts his strength marker ahead of the first wrestler.
If 2 cards, the next player can play a third wrestler with 3 cards, adds the strength marker ahead of both those other wrestlers.
This is apparently now the end of the round (?).
My impression is that each time there are three cards played, you have to start a new round and try to figure out the strength values between tied wrestlers?.. I'm so confused. I've seen what you CAN do from the video, but I don't really know what you can't do.. Like, you can apparently play the cards of a wrestler whose strength was already determined, but you have the play the last number of cards played, but is that only of the former round's wrestlers? I mean, what if everyone just started playing 2 cards of every wrestler that was already on the table? Can you play the same guy twice in one round?
In the end, we hadn't a clue.
Can someone explain how to play this game, and in great detail?
Btw, my version is slightly different than every version in videos on the internet, but I think the main difference is in how you use the strength markers, so the gameplay part ought to be the same, I think.
Help!!
Megalosaro
Banned
Good thing that it can be played singleplayer
BomberMouse
Member
That game is infamous for its rules. I also have yet to play it. Will post if I manage to.
SoldierIce64
Member
Today I got those Zen Bin custom trays for Star Wars Rebellion and they are worth it, everything looks organized and it only takes a short amount of time to set up the game.
Now I'm thinking about getting some custom trays for Mansions of Madness.
Now I'm thinking about getting some custom trays for Mansions of Madness.
I'm a Maskmen expert, and I got you covered. When I get home to a proper keyboard, I'll give you the full rundown, and then you'll be an expert too. It's not too complicated, honest.
BomberMouse
Member
I'm also looking forward to this, thanks.
Polioliolio
Member
Awesome, thanks Daddios.
super-famicom
Member
It would have to be a second core set. That way you'd have enough starter decks for the investigators, though if you're super into creating a custom deck, you'd need two core sets to be able to do that for 2 players. If you just want to use the prebuilt decks listed in the manual, then it would work for 4 players.
The Dunwich Legacy expansion has new investigators, so I think you can get that and use those investigators with the core game as well. I haven't looked too much into it, since I've been a bit busy and haven't played the main campaign as often as I'd like. But I read that some investigators share the same class (and use the same cards in their deck), so they can't be played together unless you have more sets.
ah... I will have to try to get the game on the table at some point and see if I want to invest in a second core set to play with 4 eventually then.
super-famicom
Member
It should be doable on Easy difficulty, but for harder difficulties you really want to create the best possible decks for your investgators, and you just need more base cards for that. This is one of the problems with the LCG model: should they include more cards in the base set and increase the price, or make the necessary cards you need to properly deck build sold separately?
Alright, Maskmen explained.
First, think of the card play as a "fight" or a "match", where the main action is taking place. A match will potentially have 6 wrestlers enter the ring, and a match is what shapes the ranking. However, those changes only shift whatever was involved in single match.
Then, think of the ranking itself like a script that's being written for the overall wrestling season (because wrestling is scripted, duh). So you are shaping the script with the matches you create via cardplay, but the pendulum eventually swings back and you have to play cards according to the script.
That's a copy/paste from the thread I made on BGG (years ago!) to explain the game.
You can also find a pretty detailed example of play in that post, where I go through a few different cases.
First, think of the card play as a "fight" or a "match", where the main action is taking place. A match will potentially have 6 wrestlers enter the ring, and a match is what shapes the ranking. However, those changes only shift whatever was involved in single match.
Then, think of the ranking itself like a script that's being written for the overall wrestling season (because wrestling is scripted, duh). So you are shaping the script with the matches you create via cardplay, but the pendulum eventually swings back and you have to play cards according to the script.
That's a copy/paste from the thread I made on BGG (years ago!) to explain the game.
You can also find a pretty detailed example of play in that post, where I go through a few different cases.
Thanks for the explanation! Did something get missed after "only happen" though?
Whoops! Edited
rhophiehalul78
Member
I'm planning to buy Betrayal at House on the Hill. Any reviews or feedback from those who already own this game or those who have played it?
Alcotholic
Banned
It's a staple in any collection. Best played with 4 players. Any enjoy it for the wacky narrative, it's not always the most balanced game.
rhophiehalul78
Member
We're planning to play with 6 players during "glamping" so the theme really fits well. Does it feel slower with 6 players?
Can you recommend similar board games that works well with 6 players? I appreciate the feedback!
Looks like the new Runewars minis game from FFG is getting pretty meh reviews. It's FFG and (insanely, almost self-parodic) generic fantasy so I'm sure it'll still sell a billion, but maybe won't dethrone GW like FFG wants? 
I'm probably already out on it just based on how uninterested I am in that universe, but it's interesting to see the Wings of War/X-Wing dials-and-templates mechanic come over to even more games. Seems to be one of the most common complaints about the new Runewars. I'm beyond done with that mechanic. Sure it was cool in X-Wing, but it's just incredibly tedious after a while, and doesn't work well outside of that very specific dogfight context (which even there I'm ready for something new).
I'm probably already out on it just based on how uninterested I am in that universe, but it's interesting to see the Wings of War/X-Wing dials-and-templates mechanic come over to even more games. Seems to be one of the most common complaints about the new Runewars. I'm beyond done with that mechanic. Sure it was cool in X-Wing, but it's just incredibly tedious after a while, and doesn't work well outside of that very specific dogfight context (which even there I'm ready for something new).
What's the age range for your camping trip? I camp once or twice a year, and usually bring board games as well.
Codenames is one I always take
Munchkin - I dislike this game nowadays, but it's sort of a tradition
Betrayal at House on the Hill - It works fine with 6 players.
Diamonds - Just a twist on Hearts/Spades
Bang The Dice Game
Pandemic the Dice Game
La Granja: No Siesta
and more depending on my mood and who is coming.
Looks like the new Runewars minis game from FFG is getting pretty meh reviews. It's FFG and (insanely, almost self-parodic) generic fantasy so I'm sure it'll still sell a billion, but maybe won't dethrone GW like FFG wants?
I'm probably already out on it just based on how uninterested I am in that universe, but it's interesting to see the Wings of War/X-Wing dials-and-templates mechanic come over to even more games. Seems to be one of the most common complaints about the new Runewars. I'm beyond done with that mechanic. Sure it was cool in X-Wing, but it's just incredibly tedious after a while, and doesn't work well outside of that very specific dogfight context (which even there I'm ready for something new).
I didn't realize people were down on the xwing movement system. I haven't played it, but it always seemed interesting. I agree that it seems weird to use it in aything but a flying game though.
BomberMouse
Member
Agreed, I don't like the game at all. Could easily sour a group.
they asked for games that work well with 6 players not games that will make them want to go on a murder spree with 6 players.
munchkin is a 4 player max game, any more than that and you are only doing it because you hate yourself or hate others. No sane person should ever play munchkin with more than 4 players once, as after one time you will understand how stupid of a decision that was.
I still enjoy munchkin in general, but playing munchkin with 6 players makes monopoly feel like it's a well balanced fun game even with house rules like free parking money ect. The major problem with munchkin with that many players is that between attempts to win there is enough time for everyone to restock items and in general it becomes impossible for someone to go out as everyone else just has more than enough stuff to keep someone from winning.
I would easily recommend betrayal to people over stuff like catan or ticket to ride at this point. Most of the people I have gamed with vastly prefer betrayal over those... heck most of my gaming circle actively dislikes catan. I will agree though that if your group is hardcore euro players and hate american games though to avoid it.
I forgot to actually make suggestions for 6 players, so here you go:
Libertalia is a pirate game that works nicely because all players take their turns simultaneously, and then one player resolves the cards.
7 Wonders is a tableau-building game where everyone takes their turns simultaneously.
Codenames (or the newer Codenames: Pictures) are guessing games where you split into two teams and a leader gives word clues for their team to pick word/picture cards.
Mysterium is a guessing game where a silent player gives picture clues and other players have to associate them with other pictures of a murderer, location, and weapon.
I will agree that Munchkin should not be played with 6 unless you strongly house rule "I'm setting a 1-hour timer. When it runs out, we finish the round and the highest score wins. No one is allowed to bitch about the results."
Libertalia is a pirate game that works nicely because all players take their turns simultaneously, and then one player resolves the cards.
7 Wonders is a tableau-building game where everyone takes their turns simultaneously.
Codenames (or the newer Codenames: Pictures) are guessing games where you split into two teams and a leader gives word clues for their team to pick word/picture cards.
Mysterium is a guessing game where a silent player gives picture clues and other players have to associate them with other pictures of a murderer, location, and weapon.
I will agree that Munchkin should not be played with 6 unless you strongly house rule "I'm setting a 1-hour timer. When it runs out, we finish the round and the highest score wins. No one is allowed to bitch about the results."
Looks like the new Runewars minis game from FFG is getting pretty meh reviews. It's FFG and (insanely, almost self-parodic) generic fantasy so I'm sure it'll still sell a billion, but maybe won't dethrone GW like FFG wants?
I'm probably already out on it just based on how uninterested I am in that universe, but it's interesting to see the Wings of War/X-Wing dials-and-templates mechanic come over to even more games. Seems to be one of the most common complaints about the new Runewars. I'm beyond done with that mechanic. Sure it was cool in X-Wing, but it's just incredibly tedious after a while, and doesn't work well outside of that very specific dogfight context (which even there I'm ready for something new).
Oh man! I remember the Runewars strategy game from years ago. Kind of a cool game but set-up is ridiculous and it's quite long to play. With the way orders worked it's also super hard to defend from two places at once. I think if I ever tried to play it again 2v2 might be the way to go. It's one of those games that might have been better off as just being a video game in some respects.
I still have the expansion for it unopened! (It added actual tech choices which might be cool.)
As boring as the universe is I'm kind of surprised they've been able to keep it consistent after all this time.
So Gloomhaven. A lot of hype on here the past couple weeks and I finally got to try it as they are releasing a minicampaign on TTS to follow alongside the KS reprint. It's really good! Right up my alley as I love tactics rpgs and the 2 scenarios I've played so far with friends convinced me to back it as well when I really shouldn't be spending money lol.
Same. They are sexy. Hope they come out with more for other games.
Megalosaro
Banned
Betrayal at House on the Hill is awesome.
Be sure to get the expansion.
is awesome.
Be sure to get the expansion.
Make America Disintegrate Again