SebastianM
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R&C 2016 was fantastic. High hopes for this one.
It's the same way we don't get excited for 2D platformers anymore.
It sold 1/3rd of Odyssey on a console with a significantly younger demographic than the PlayStation 5. It's also only the 25th best selling Mario game of all time.
Let's not act like 2D platformers aren't well past their peak. You're allowed to enjoy them, but the market has moved on.
Hahaha, you wanna talk about what the market wants? Let's see the November 2020 NPDs
1. The 18th mainline COD game in 17 years
2. The 12th mainline AC game in 13 years
3. Glorified Spider-Man DLC from... the studio you're talking about
4. The I-can't-even-count(th) annual Madden game
5. The I-can't-even-count(th) annual NBA game
6. Musuo game with Zelda skin, and a sequel, but at least somewhat interesting
7. Ubisoft open world game
8. The 5th mainline Animal Crossing game in 19 years that's been out since March
9. The I-can't-even-count(th) annual FIFA game
10. A remake of an 11 year old game
Followed, as I'm sure you can guess, by the 8th MK game in 28 years which has been out for 6 years, a repackage of Nintendo platformers going back to the 90s and early 2000s... hell, it's surprising that GTA V didn't make the list again.
So, remind me again, what you think it is that "the market" wants?
And your definition of "innovation" includes a flash game which is just mafia/werewolf? Protip: it's popular because streamers said so. Among Us is not innovative in any way.
There’s only been 7 mainline games, bring on number 8. Tell this troll’s bad opinion to die instead!!Ratchet & Clank
Going Commando
Up Your Arsenal
Future: Tools of Destruction
Future: Quest for Booty
Future: A Crack in Time
Into the Nexus
Collection (123 COLLECTION)
Ratchet & Clank (PS4) REMAKE
There’s only been 7 mainline games, bring on number 8. Tell this troll’s bad opinion to die instead!!
Hopefully they price it the same as Miles otherwise I’ll wait for a sale.
Looks exactly the same as the previous 11 Ratchet and Clank games. Where is the innovation?
Hahahaha upset this game looks better graphically and gameplay wise than anything they like.Insomniac wasting time and talent on Ratchet & Clank. Makes me sad. This franchise should die with PS2.
If you haven't already, you should definitely play Crack in Time. Definitely my favourite in the series and I'd be hard pressed to find a flaw in the game.I never got into these sony platformers until PS4 Ratchet and clank.. that game blew my mind in the best ways
That's the PS3 one right? I tried to get into it on my PS3 but, i think i didn't like the level design or camera or something.. don't quite remember.. I'll give it another try some time i guess, but yeah none of those problems with PS4 r&cIf you haven't already, you should definitely play Crack in Time. Definitely my favourite in the series and I'd be hard pressed to find a flaw in the game.
It's the third of the PS3 ones. Tools of Destruction, Quest for Booty, and Crack in Time are the PS3 story arc and Into the Nexus is basically the epilogue. I'd say Tools suffers a bit from early-PS3 syndrome where they were trying everything out like the SIXAXIS (thankfully you can disable that in the settings).That's the PS3 one right? I tried to get into it on my PS3 but, i think i didn't like the level design or camera or something.. don't quite remember.. I'll give it another try some time i guess, but yeah none of those problems with PS4 r&c
Yep...Deadlocked, Size Matters, Secret Agent Clank, All 4 One, and Full Frontal Assault don’t count bro.
Yep...Deadlocked, Size Matters, Secret Agent Clank, All 4 One, and Full Frontal Assault don’t count bro.
Trash tier...not made by the original R&C team (NC studio instead),or by other developers. And the Collection & the PS4 game are rehashes. I mean Deadlocked was, but it’s a different take kind of like Jak X Combat Racing was to J&D series.Why?
Trash tier...not made by the original R&C team (NC studio instead),or by other developers. And the Collection & the PS4 game are rehashes. I mean Deadlocked was, but it’s a different take kind of like Jak X Combat Racing was to J&D series.
Insomniac wasting time and talent on Ratchet & Clank. Makes me sad. This franchise should die with PS2.
You mean like this?
That's back in 2016.
The way we have to view games (and the market) is with levers, not switches. Things ebb and flow, they don't automatically become passe overnight.
That's how innovation works. The big budget stalwarts find a formula, and milk that formula till it's dry. That leaves small developers the opportunity to make different types of games like Among Us, Fall Guys, Phasmophobia, Fortnite, PUBG etc...
The reason why we're (finally!) seeing traditional Call of Duty drop off a cliff is because those smaller, innovative games are outmaneuvering them in the market.
The market is busting at the seems for these new experiences as every breakout darling is raw. The design isn't all there yet, the production values are weak, many are buggy. They're breaking out because a percentage of people are tired of same old same old.
Btw, streamers are just gamers. They have a much smaller influence on the market than you're making out. Take a look at Hyper Scape and Sea of Thieves are doing today after floooding the streamer market.
Rift Apart is a bunt from Sony. It'll sell 2-3 million units and not much more. Sony should be putting Insomniac on whatever they think the next big thing is going to be. Ratchet ain't it.
Lol Ratchet and Clank 2016 on PS4 was the fastest selling game in the franchiseThe market doesn't.
BOOM! Roasted! Men_in_BoxesLol Ratchet and Clank 2016 on PS4 was the fastest selling game in the franchise
Ratchet & Clank PS4 Sets Sales Record for Series
PlayStation announces that the new Ratchet & Clank remake on PlayStation 4 has set a record and officially become the fastest-selling game in the franchise.gamerant.com
But the experiences you're listing aren't even all innovative. I already said, Among Us is just mafia but with all the different roles replaced with minigames to make it idiot-proof for the Twitch audience. Fortnite was a completely different game that saw the success of PUBG and just straight turned itself into that overnight to chase the success. Both just refined something existing. Call of Duty isn't going anywhere. In fact, all they had to do was copy PUBG, again, and refine something existing, and now Warzone is a runaway success.
I didn't say streamers had market influence, I said they make things popular, and the do. The only reason you're even mentioning Among Us several times is because of streamers, that game came out 2 years ago and was dead in the water until streamers found it.
But the important part is that you don't seem to know that Ratchet & Clank 2016 was one of the best/fastest selling games in the entire franchise. It's a series that's as strong as ever and it's an absolute no-brainer for Sony to capitalise on, especially when Insomniac can also work on Spider-Man at the same time and chase the money that a franchise with that weight brings in simply by being Spider-Man. Insomniac did innovation right with the first Spyro game, the first Ratchet game, and that's it. Everything else is just them building upon something and making it better. Tons of sequels, Resistance was just a shooter series, Spider-Man is just a really good Spider-Man game. Their success is based on their heavy refinement and polish of existing things, like a lot of other great studios. Sony knows exactly how to use them, and they are.
It's probably not going to sell tremendously at the start because it's a straight PS5 exclusive and hardly anyone can even get one - Miles Morales already sold poorly compared to the first because people are waiting to get PS5s - but it'll be a great steady stream of income as more and more people get their hands on the systems.
Lol Ratchet and Clank 2016 on PS4 was the fastest selling game in the franchise
Ratchet & Clank PS4 Sets Sales Record for Series
PlayStation announces that the new Ratchet & Clank remake on PlayStation 4 has set a record and officially become the fastest-selling game in the franchise.gamerant.com
I'd rather Insomniac swing for the fences. Development cycles take too long for a 19th Ratchet and Clank game.
Exactly, the detail in Ratchet on PS5 is way higher than thatNo it's nothing like that actually. What's wrong with you kid