so when are we getting a 6gb vram card? or would hbm basically let us be stuck with 4gb without issue?
shadow of mordor is even requiring 6gb vram on ultra, yet most of the high-end today only sport 4gb.
Titans have 6gb vram.
so when are we getting a 6gb vram card? or would hbm basically let us be stuck with 4gb without issue?
shadow of mordor is even requiring 6gb vram on ultra, yet most of the high-end today only sport 4gb.
AMD is certainly getting better, but using a game that has one of the best showings for AMD architecture(along with Ryse) and Mantle support is not necessarily the most representative benchmark to pick. Other games do not show that same level of comparison and the 970 is often at or near 290X levels at 1080p and 1440p.
And criticizing the price of the 780Ti and 780 based on this makes little sense since AMD has been playing catch up this entire time. People don't buy GPU's based on what theoretical performance they might get from them in a year's time IF driver support has improved, they get them for tangible day 1 benefits.
But why three variants?
There won't be. WCCF dudes were overzealous in getting the news out. They'll be a 950, a 960, and a 960 TI.
Nvidia CES conference is tonight. Anybody making a thread?
I think if you looked in the 'I need a new PC' thread, there is no bias between Nvidia and AMD when the knowledgeable folks there give advice on builds. I do not hesitate to recommend AMD when I feel its worth recommending, either. I did it just today(well, yesterday now) in the GTX970/980 specific thread in fact.The question is do you all, as the consumers, ignore, or learn. I try not be "yay Red team", but this place is very pro Nvidia compared to dedicated hardware forums and we have to see if it is worth everyone's enthusiasm.
People on this very forum once recommend the 770 2GB over the 280X 3GB. Not just one over the other, but actually encouraged paying MORE for the 770. In retrospect, this would be a devastating decision. But even if Kepler had not lost performance accross the board, the 2GB of VRAM should have been a no go from the start, but was ignored. People even recommended 760 2GB for about the same price as 280X 3GB, and again, look at that list of 10 games from 2014 and tell me if that was wise.
Some of this was unforseeable, but the VRAM was not. Do not ignore history, especially when it is happening righ tnow.
I'm really questioning whether you do actually hope that or you're just concern trolling, going by the tone of your posts.More on topic, I hope the 960 series revitilized the sub $330 Nvidia market. They haven't had a desirable product there for a while, not since 290 and 280X have gotten to such good deals.
So we are expecting a GTX 960, and GTX 980Ti announcement tonight?!
So we are expecting a GTX 960, and GTX 980Ti announcement tonight?!
I wouldn't settle for anything less than 16GB of VRAM, guys. I mean, the PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 and because of coding to the metal, it's twice as powerful as an equivalent PC. You'd need 16GB just to match PS4. Nvidia is just too salty to give PC gamers what they need and it's honestly sad.
Nvidia CES conference is tonight. Anybody making a thread?
I wouldn't settle for anything less than 16GB of VRAM, guys. I mean, the PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 and because of coding to the metal, it's twice as powerful as an equivalent PC. You'd need 16GB just to match PS4. Nvidia is just too salty to give PC gamers what they need and it's honestly sad.
8Gb 970s and 980s are rumoured to be in the works. I wish they'd hurry up and announce/deny them so that I can buy a new card. The XO and PS4 aren't going to force 8Gb requirements obviously but I doubt that > 4Gb will still be rare by the end of the gen.so when are we getting a 6gb vram card? or would hbm basically let us be stuck with 4gb without issue?
shadow of mordor is even requiring 6gb vram on ultra, yet most of the high-end today only sport 4gb.
For 3 4k monitors? Maybe. Other than that, not really.8gb vram is quickly becoming a requirement. I'd hold out if at all possible.
Gimmie a 6GB or 8GB 980Ti at 650$ please! 700$ non standard. Would love you for years Nvidia!
I'm talking about Kepler, not Maxwell. Kepler's heat and noise advantage over AMD is much more incremental in nature. Especially Sapphire Tri X series.
780Ti cost $300-350 more than a 290 for 6+ months. Look at that average of 10 games. It was not worth it. I honestly think Kepler customers need to be contacting Nvidia about matching AMD's performance gains. Get that driver to team to work.
If I had a 780 Ti I would be seriously irritated that the 290 is trading blows with a card that just 4 months ago was going for $600. A 780Ti owner should be furious that his $700 launch card is now as fast as a $400 launch and currently $250-300 AMD card in 2014 games. They should NOT be advocating buying more Nvidia products, in my humble, consumer oriented opinion. Although Maxwell is quite wonderful (except in SLI/Crossfire, where AMD out right wins), it makes you wonder about Nvidia's long term support - especially as 4K gets more popular and AMD currently is king at that resolution. Things did not look like this a year ago, and it's a testament to AMD's recent performance drivers. Even just compared to 970/980 launch reviews, 290 series is making some ground on Maxwell, although not as drastically as Kepler.
MSI GTX 960 GAMING 2G and MSI GTX 960 100 MILLION Edition
Yesterday you saw the GTX 970 100 MILLION Edition, which was first shown to PCPerspective at CES 2015. Today we are looking at GTX 960 in the same green theme and GAMING 2G kept in original GAMING colors.
Both cards are very much the same, except the color scheme and the missing backplate with GAMING 2G. Unfortunately we dont have the specs, so we cant talk about the clocks just yet. The only certain thing is the memory configuration of 2GB GDDR5 and 128-bit interface.
MSIs GeForce GTX 960 is powered by a single 8-pin power connector. The PCB is equipped with 4+1 phase design. And just like we told you, GTX 960 has the same display configuration as GTX 970 and GTX 980: three DisplayPorts, HDMI and DVI.
GeForce GTX 960 is equipped with GM206 GPU, which we unveiled just today. We expect to hear more about GTX 960 in the next few days, so stay tunned for more.
These look extremely underwhelming :/
So the 2GB 128 bit rumours were true...
Why nvidia? Why?
So the 2GB 128 bit rumours were true...
Why nvidia? Why?
So your point is that 2 year old, about-to-be-replaced(or has been replaced and discontinued) hardware isn't recommendable anymore?Not trolling, but being honest. Kepler is simply not worth recommending in the current gaming climate. And Nvidia doesn't have a under $330 Maxwell*, so it's all AMD right now.
*750Ti is a great card for low power, small systems. Especially if you get a good rebate it is viable.
More on Kepler. If I were to show you a Far Cry 4 review. Is FC4 AMD favoured?
http://media.bestofmicro.com/A/U/470838/gallery/1440p-ultra_r_600x450.png
No, seems right. 970 is equal or slightly faster than 290X (I'd favour 970 here, since it has significantly better minimums). Normally, 970 and 290X are fairly equal, often with better 970 performance at below 4K. Far Cry 4 favours neither company, looking at that benchmark.
But Kepler:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/A/P/470833/gallery/1080p-ultra_r_600x450.png
Would you really recommend any Nvidia card below the 970 right now? Again, this isn't universal, but more and more games throughout 2014 see once comparable cards begin to separate heavily against Kepler and toward GCN. This trend should be outright troubling to the enthusist community. Why is Nvidia no longer optimizing for cards that so many of their customers have? And they still sell many of these cards!
That's why I can say, there is honesty and no trolling in saying sub $330 is all AMD except for 750Ti situations. So yes, I hope the 960 series makes a splash. 290, 280X, and 280 are all very attractive right now. A 280 was on sale for $130 BEFORE REBATE on Newegg a week ago, holy heck. 770, 760, 660, etc just do not seem valid anymore at all.
So your point is that 2 year old, about-to-be-replaced(or has been replaced and discontinued) hardware isn't recommendable anymore?
Well by golly, I think you may just be right! Thanks for the PSA.