Bare in mind FM6 is two years old at this point. I think when we see FM7 at E3 we'll have a better gauge of where T10 is in terms of graphical fidelity.
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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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Bare in mind FM6 is two years old at this point. I think when we see FM7 at E3 we'll have a better gauge of where T10 is in terms of graphical fidelity.
icecold1983
Member
im not expecting big visual improvements other than the native 4k res on scorpio, but we will see.
TBiddy
Member
How do you quantify that? Do you think GTS looks 10, 20 or perhaps 30% better? 40% better? How did you arrive at that specific number? Do you know if GTS is 60 FPS locked?
I'm sorry, but statements like that just screams "I like this console more, so I must praise it.".
Important note, indeed. Sometimes I wonder what T10 could've done on a 30 FPS game, but I guess we have FH3 for that.
Sebmugi
Member
well..personally the game of car that I expect the most is the next production of evolution studio even if it will be multiplatform I think that it will be a pearl
With the scorpio and the pro like resource I think a big slap...I hope the very good 1080p (30/60fps I do not care)
This damn 4K will still delay the appearance of games because it consumes too much resources just for display :/
With the scorpio and the pro like resource I think a big slap...I hope the very good 1080p (30/60fps I do not care)
This damn 4K will still delay the appearance of games because it consumes too much resources just for display :/
Wow if that's in-engine. Finally another game with self-reflections then.Cool finally I feel that the team of evolution studio we shared their know how, the shaders on the bodywork looks much like those of Driveclub <3 yum
It will boost codemaster!
https://youtu.be/wdiUOHZYav0
Sebmugi
Member
I have the impression that the boost mode of the ps4 pro also benefits the effects like particles ..
https://youtu.be/E_fnY6WcFZc
https://youtu.be/E_fnY6WcFZc
Highly doubt it.
soundscream
Member
Not in its current state. Almost on the Pro, will probably get there at launch. But the base.......
https://youtu.be/pXZPUUE6wT0
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Emula from gtplanet posted these:
real life:
Forza's Nurb replication is pretty notorious. Not sure how much they have fixed though.
Laser scanned init?
TheAdmiester
Member
Yup.
Forza, Assetto Corsa, and R3E all have a laser scanned Nurburgring and they're all very similar to each other, so if there's an inconsistency between Forza and GT, I'm inclined to believe it's GT that's the outlier.
icecold1983
Member
i mean going by the above comparison, its quite clearly forza that is far off from reality
iRacing too!
Too hard to tell tbh, GT has a higher camera with it's weird ass roof cam.
funkystudent
Member
TBF the major difference seems to be track side details. GT seems a bit more true to life with the amount of trees.
As far as the actual track goes I think Forza finally got its Ring sorted out once they started using that scanned version after F5.
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
GTS vs AC Audi R8 LMS Nurburgring comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdsjM_yKwtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdsjM_yKwtk
Lighting is huge between the pair...
Diablohead
Member
GTS tire flex
Forza6 tire flex
I always felt like forza toned down tire flexing in 5 and 6 to the point where you hardly notice it.
TheAdmiester
Member
It really just depends on the car and the setup. If you have a car with chunky tires like a 60s muscle car, there's more tire to flex and you'll notice it more. For a car with thinner tires, like the Hyundai Genesis in the shots, you'll probably need to have lower pressure in your setup to notice it easily. I'm about to make an FH3 comparison with the same car just so we have all bases covered.
EDIT: Here we go. Exaggerated with low tire pressure just to demonstrate:
Sorry it's took so long but these threads move so fast I seem to miss it lots.
Yeah...I absolutely agree with you.
What I take issue with is people generalising. I read too much 'Forza Motorsport' and 'Turn 10' but, in isolation, there are instances where frame-rates have faltered. I don't care if Forza Motorsport 6 is supposedly 'rock-solid', it's doesn't matter to me in the slightest, but it has been shown Forza Motorsport 5 and Forza Motorsport 3 are not. The generalisation is disingenuous because it implies everything 'Forza Motorsport' or 'Turn 10' related is perfect, when they are not.
So, that's why comments like 'The game never, EVER, drops below from 60 fps, its rock solid.', in context to last generation Forza Motorsport games, isn't right. There's specific emphasis in there which makes it worse too! Again, comments like 'Wait, you're saying Forza Motorsport games don't run at a consistent 60 fps? What?'...well yes I am with evidential reasons, or 'And Forza Motorsport has been 60 fps for years now.', when it hasn't since years includes previous releases. It's plain to see yet completely shrugged under the carpet.
Then there's interpretation. My comments may be accurate but they are perceived as something different. All I'm saying is those games can, and do, fall under 60fps. I'm not saying Turn 10 are crap or that there performance technology isn't better than everyone else because, quite clearly, it is. That's another thing history tells us...Forza Motorsport games have always ran way better than Gran Turismo games. In fact I can use evidence to show this too and I'm sure some people would lap it up...just a shame they can't acknowledge evidence that shows the other side of the story.
The Digital Foundry thing...well it's Digital Foundry. As I said before Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo have massive campaign progression and racing games are hardly an exciting prospect for them. With so much content and differing scenarios I'd be massively surprised if they got to see where each of these games really falter (unless it's Gran Turismo, of course). I'm of the mind they dip in to campaign mode to get captures but most probably use Arcade/Single Race modes for most of their research. I could be wrong, though, but that's just my thoughts on them and racing games.
That's not what I'm saying, Read above.
See, this is what I mean. Evidentially, for example, Forza Motorsport 5 fails the test but it's swept under the carpet.
Again, I agree but there should be a fair consideration of the whole package, right? That's why Gran Turismo 5 was a back-breaker but is still regarded as one of the best looking games of a generation. On a machine that was, apparently, underpowered. Take with one, give with another. Swings and roundabouts.
In other news I hope either Microsoft buy PlayGround Games or let them speak with Sony about that MotorStorm franchise. I think they would be a perfect fit for it.
Also, I hope Evolution are working on more than just F1. I hope there are doing their own thing.
icecold1983
Member
its not hard to tell
PeterLegend
Member
I think GT Sport will unveil weather at E3
xenorevlis
Member
I just wanted to share this little replay edit (cut from three different versions of the same replay) and mini time lapse at the end from Driveclub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi7YjGEgHzw
I've been thinking about what the Evolution Studios team might be up to over at Codemasters. Part of my hopes for another arcade-like game in the roots of PGR or DC, while another part of me wants a spiritual successor to the Motorstorm games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi7YjGEgHzw
I've been thinking about what the Evolution Studios team might be up to over at Codemasters. Part of my hopes for another arcade-like game in the roots of PGR or DC, while another part of me wants a spiritual successor to the Motorstorm games.
Tripolygon
Banned
This is pretty impressive, you can see how the weight shift both horizontally and vertically exposing the wheel rim.
credit to benzy.
I was all about traditional rallying, but recently I got really interested in racing trucks and buggies. Considering the offroad roots of Evolution with the WRC and Motorstorm series, I'd effin love to see a Dirt series spin off like they did with Dirt Rally, but focused on trucks and buggies instead traditional rally (which I still love). Something like a Baja 1000 game, or the Dakar, or Rally dos Sertoes, something cross country like. :3
xenorevlis
Member
Honestly if they could finally do what the original Motorstorm trailer showed off it'd be fantastic. Something either open-world-like or simply long ass point to point off road racing would be incredible. Doesn't even need to include EVERY kind of vehicle, but you know
(Motorstorm CG reveal) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wig-XT8Rbiw
Honestly if they could finally do what the original Motorstorm trailer showed off it'd be fantastic. Something either open-world-like or simply long ass point to point off road racing would be incredible. Doesn't even need to include EVERY kind of vehicle, but you know
(Motorstorm CG reveal) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wig-XT8Rbiw
Seems like Fuel ended up being that game (kind of). :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhWKrGNvfo
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They clearly did something wrong. The track width has been a big talking for a long time, don't know if its been changed with the recent ones.
What is wrong with the laser scanning?
You're probably thinking of the ring from Forza 1-4.
They redid it for 5 with laser scanning.
TheAdmiester
Member
Assetto Corsa
GTS
Forza 6
Does/did Brands Hatch change its rumble strips or is one of these wrong? Forza/AC have much wider strips but GT's are narrow.
l2ounD
Member
One is not like the other? I like how AC got the little guardrail cutoff
Assetto Corsa
GTS
Forza 6
And thats some weird texture work going on the sand area on Brands Hatch, the lighting on it looks like its going the wrong way.
Forza 6
TheAdmiester
Member
Interesting, thanks for clearing it up.
That's the awkward thing with tracks - depending on when the game was made, they can all be accurate but different.
I sort of wish they had the year spec for the sims. So like if it's specifically a scan from 2012 of [whatever], that's either in the name or at least something in-game you can find.
sems4arsenal
Member
Can someone gif the seat belts reacting and stretching with the driver. It's apparent in Road cars like the Focus ST (look left in cockpit view).
Also not sure if people are aware but you can still zoom in using the triangle button in replays in GTSport.
Also not sure if people are aware but you can still zoom in using the triangle button in replays in GTSport.
drotahorror
Member
What if Evolution x Codemasters are working on a new FUEL? FUEL was open world, off road, weather effects, even tornados. Would love a new FUEL.
I've had that thought for a couple of weeks now. Hope and prey.
potatohead
Member
Can you rotate the camera around the car from the behind car view in gt sport like in drive club? I'd very much love to do that in gameplay
l2ounD
Member
For the chase cam? They had it in previous builds of the beta where you can rotate 360 but currently they took it out and its locked behind or in front.