My shots (on the previous page) aren't photomode.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
- Thread starter Gestault
- Start date
My shots (on the previous page) aren't photomode.
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
You also weren't the only one who posted FH3 screenshots.
Deviousx
Member
PG managed to render FH @ native 1280x720, 4xMSAA + FXAA, and delivered a rock solid 30FPS w/ no tearing on the 360. That's pretty impressive.
Programming wizardry.
Why not?
Well, they are the wizards.
The development studio was established in 2010, by former employees of other well known British games developers, such as Codemasters, Bizarre Creations, Criterion Games, Ubisoft Reflections, Slightly Mad Studios, Black Rock Studio, Juice Games, Sony Liverpool
Playground is like the all-star team of the racing genre.
Sebmugi
Member
always those hands who do not want to turn in forza :/
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Doesn't just look cheap, it's distracting and disorientating.
Cannot play in that view at all.
Forza 7 | PC, gameplay
Some of these tracks are unbelievable.
Nghhhh the FH3 weather system does wonders in this game
GamingArena
Member
Some FH3 PC
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Forza 7 | PC, gameplay
Some of these tracks are unbelievable.
All it needs is the F355 Challenge to return!
https://youtu.be/rdpLwa3Jb9Y
And those CRT's are FUCKED. What a disgrace.
The crab claws remain terribad but it's sad to see FM still having OTT paddle-shifting animations too. It's not as bad as previous iterations where the driver almost took his hand off the wheel to operate the paddle but it's still a bit LOOK AT ME I'M CHANGING GEAR DUDES for my liking.
Is the steering wheel rotation still locked quite low or is that now fixed?
ResidentDante
Member
They should add more animations to the hands in Forza, I agree. Would be cool with some random ones too, like the driver stretching out his fingers once in a blue moon, scratching his other hand or adjusting the airconditioner 
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Well it feels lower than it should often but I think the ffb is at fault, well partially at fault because you can push it further but you don't fully trust it due to the way the understeer is handled. It's o ly really around Long Beach I need to turn the wheel hard. Normal steering helps smooth things out though, in my mind at least.
I've been reading on GTPlanet about the advance wheel settings and how things works, hopefully I'll get to have a play with them.
Edit: ok, yeah. I was somewhat pleased with my settings but they can deffo be tweaked more, did a test and it does feel better.
Why not? The most pictures are from DC here anyways-
Business
Member
The light in Forza totally ruins it for me. The cockpit shake is also pretty bad.
Then what is your point?
It's a current gen game...it's a racing game...I'm missing something apparently?
JackAubrey
Member
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
My point is, when someone posts driveclub screenshots ppl say it doesn't count because its 30fps or photo mode or gift. That's why I was asking.
you can change the lighting (the only thing the guy claimed ruins the game) in the menu? cool
MilkyJoe
Member
In the thread of thousands of photomode Driveclub pictures?
Personally I think Photomode defies the point of the title of the tread, or any screenshot thread really.
The short experience I had with a wheel and FM was weird. You could go 720 degrees on the actual wheel, but it would go no further than 90 on the ingame visual.
Other games I tried (GTS/PC2/DC) matched perfectly.
Cuthbert 80
Member
I can definitely confirm this after watching the latest gameplay vids on Gamersyde.
When you pause Gamersyde's GTS gameplay vids, you can blatantly see motion blur to the sides of your screen, especially when turning corners.
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
Please let me know If I shouldn't post these sound comparisons in here.
Laferrari FM7 vs GTS vs PC2 vs AC vs DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSpSo_GE6qo
Laferrari FM7 vs GTS vs PC2 vs AC vs DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSpSo_GE6qo
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
#RIPEvo
for this it's
AC
DC
GTS
F7
PC2
might even put F7 lowest here because they didn't even come close to getting the pitch right, although the car still sounds somewhat aggressive as it should. gts actually sounds closest to the real thing in terms of pitch, but kinda has the same problem the rest of the game has in that it sounds a bit duller than the rest.
these comparisons are good btw, and this thread is probably the only place to post them.
edit: lol almost the opposite ranking of theadmiester XD
TheAdmiester
Member
I thought FM7's LaFerrari sound was totally off until hearing those real clips. It needs a tiny bit more of that bassy note you can hear in the RL clips, and it's a tiny bit too high pitch but I didn't realise it wasn't that far off. The off-throttle sounds seem to be pretty much there.
GTS' sounds entirely synthetic, there's not enough "metal" sound to it, and it still has that weird effect where with stereo headphones it sounds like it's behind me. That upshifting is still as bad as ever too. High speed wind noise is decent.
pCARS' sounds in terms of samples are probably the best here, but that weird choking rev limiter sound shouldn't be there IMO. Their granular approach works really well besides said limiter sound, although the downshift clunks seem to be a bit too loud.
AC's sound is okay, but it sounds like "LaFerrari flyby" rather than "LaFerrari exhaust". Sounds like the distant echoy race car noise rather than something you'd hear close up. Sounds like pitch bending in the very low rev range too. Also, transmission whine on interior is way too loud.
Driveclub has that weird choppy sound to it that all of its V12s have (sounds like they use the same samples for every Ferrari too) and the weird droning noise. Driveclub's engine noises have never sounded right to me though, I think that's the weakest point of that game. The interior muffling is pretty good though.
If I had to rank them I'd say PC2 > FM7 = AC > GTS > DC
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
No way FM7 sounds better than Driveclub. IMO LOL especially with the real car in the video. Going directly from the real car to FM7 and FM7 just does not sound right. DC has the best sounding Laferrari and GTS was surprisingly very good too.
Tripolygon
Banned
I would put DC first because of interior sound but AC is no slouch either. But your assessment is entirely accurate.
I would ignore theadmeister on sound. Getting the pitch of a car entirely wrong as is evident by Forza 7 yet still put it above DC or GTS.
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
The thing with AC is that it sounds like they recorded their sound from a track and slapped it onto the in game car.
TheAdmiester
Member
That's what I was trying to get across with AC's sound. It's a great sample of that sound, but it's not the one they should be using for exhaust notes.
It's like if Raceroom took this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZt6PG4SGPY
...and applied the sounds to each car's exhaust while normalising the bits where it gets quieter. It's a weird effect but it is a good sample still.
The fact that you say to ignore me after implying someone's observations are objectively "entirely accurate" is pretty funny.
nah i wouldn't say that
despite our rankings being different, i can agree with a lot of his points.
The GT vs Forza video is finished and weighs in at 24 minutes!
The only thing I didn't get to include is a sound comparison. I simply ran out of time and I'm not sure I'm well suited to judge this aspect of the games so I opted to leave it out.
The rest of the video is extremely detailed and I think it's very fair and balanced. Ultimately, I wanted to highlight the best of both games and really showcase what its developers achieved. They both clearly have unique advantages over one another.
I would say that anyone claiming that either "looks like shit" is wildly incorrect and being disrespectful to both developers.
The only thing I didn't get to include is a sound comparison. I simply ran out of time and I'm not sure I'm well suited to judge this aspect of the games so I opted to leave it out.
The rest of the video is extremely detailed and I think it's very fair and balanced. Ultimately, I wanted to highlight the best of both games and really showcase what its developers achieved. They both clearly have unique advantages over one another.
I would say that anyone claiming that either "looks like shit" is wildly incorrect and being disrespectful to both developers.
FlutterPuffs
Member
when will it be up?
Sometime later today, I believe.
MilkyJoe
Member
Much prefer the light and the cockpit shake is more realistic. Horses for courses.
Looking forward to it!
Baroquemantic
Member
Looking forward to it! You and the rest of the DF folks are awesome.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Forza Horizon 3 is probably my only reason to want an Xbox One. It's so my kind of game, much more than GT Sport is.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Great, can't wait to see it. 24 mins, should be plenty to go at then, good work.
They both look great but it will be interesting to see what each game does and doesn't do.
TheAdmiester
Member
This should also apply to any of those silly generation ahead comments.
cyen
Member
TheAdmiester
Member
Ha, maybe in the sense that his posts were hilarious to read from the bias lol.Missing thelastword?
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
I found a comparison of Project Cars 2 (PC), Forza 7 (PC) and GT Sport using identical Corvettes on the same Nurburgring GP circuit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aTaOgmolw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aTaOgmolw8
Fredrik
Member
Fantastic video! Same thing with cockpit cam too and it would be perfect. GTS takes the graphics crown imo, and FM7 has the best chase cam and sound imo.
Not shown here but I think PC2 has the best and most versatile cockpit cam, an option to remove in-game steering wheel and driver arms without changing cam (as in FM7) is great when using a steering wheel. Not sure how GTS handles this in the full version but in the demo I couldn't remove the ingame steering wheel, nobody talks about it now though so I guess it was a demo issue.
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
I keep seeing people say the reason why GTS looks better than FM7 in some instances is because of less cars etc... Forza 5 has way less cars than FM7 so why does FM7 look better? Did the car models get worse because they added way more cars? Also don't Horizon and Mainline Forza share car models?