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Nintendo 1st party Software Sales on Consoles in Japan (N64, GC, and Wii U)

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ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
I posted this in the Media Create thread, but I realize more folks might be interested in this data. Here are Nintendo's 1st party software sales on their consoles according to garaph.info and japanltdrank

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Console Release Date    ID     Title                            Publisher       Price?  Sales LTD

N64	1996-12-14	3334	[B]Mario Kart 64[/B]			Nintendo	0	1,711,661
N64	1996-06-23	3331	[B]Super Mario 64[/B]			Nintendo	0	1,639,921
N64	1999-01-21	3349	[B]Super Smash Bros. [/B]		Nintendo	0	1,631,859
N64	1998-11-21	3343	[B]Zelda: Ocarina of Time[/B]		Nintendo	0	1,143,570
N64	1998-08-01	3342	[B]Pokémon Stadium[/B]			Nintendo	0	1,094,765
N64	2000-07-21	3371	[B]Mario Tennis 64	[/B]		Nintendo	0	969,888
N64	2000-03-24	3366	[B]Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards[/B]	Nintendo	0	882,230
N64	1999-12-17	3364	[B]Mario Party 2	[/B]		Nintendo	0	884,249
N64	1997-12-21	3340	[B]Yoshi's Story	[/B]		Nintendo	0	852,846
N64	2000-12-07	3378	[B]Mario Party 3	[/B]		Nintendo	0	846,363
N64	1999-12-10	3363	[B]Donkey Kong 64[/B]			Nintendo	0	848,375
N64	2000-12-14	3379	[B]Pokémon Stadium 3[/B]		Nintendo	0	752,491
N64	1998-12-12	3345	[B]Hey You, Pikachu!	[/B]	Nintendo	0	744,870
N64	1999-04-30	3353	[B]Pokémon Stadium 2[/B]		Nintendo	0	710,762
N64	1998-12-18	3346	[B]Mario Party[/B]			Nintendo	0	706,663
N64	1997-11-21	3339	[B]Diddy Kong Racing	[/B]	Nintendo	0	653,426
N64	2000-04-27	3368	[B]Zelda: Majora's Mask[/B]		Nintendo	0	601,542
N64	1997-04-27	3336	[B]Star Fox 64[/B]			Nintendo	0	565,222
N64	1999-03-21	3351	[B]Pokémon Snap[/B]			Nintendo	0	495,784
N64	1999-06-11	3354	[B]Mario Golf 64	[/B]		Nintendo	0	470,778
N64	2000-08-11	3372	[B]Paper Mario[/B]			Nintendo	0	425,609
N64	1998-12-06	3344	[B]Banjo-Kazooie[/B]			Nintendo	0	405,944
N64	2000-11-10	3375	[B]Custom Robo V2	[/B]		Nintendo	0	264,164
N64	1999-12-08	3362	[B]Custom Robo	[/B]		Nintendo	0	221,921
N64	1999-07-14	3356	[B]Ogre Battle 64	[/B]		Nintendo	0	200,772
N64	2000-11-27	3377	[B]Banjo-Tooie[/B]			Nintendo	0	194,263
N64	1996-09-27	3333	[B]Wave Race 64 Kawasaki Jet Ski[/B]	Nintendo	0	154,682
N64	1996-06-23	3332	[B]Pilotwings 64[/B]			Nintendo	0	136,986
N64	2000-06-23	3370	[B]Excitebike 64	[/B]		Nintendo	0	106,709
N64	2000-10-21	3374	[B]Perfect Dark[/B]			Nintendo	0	95,071
N64	1999-07-21	3357	[B]Star Wars Episode I: Racer[/B]	Nintendo	0	87,826
N64	2001-01-21	3380	[B]Mickey's Speedway USA	[/B]	Nintendo	0	78,776
N64	1999-08-27	3359	[B]Star Wars: Rogue Squadron[/B]	Nintendo	0	44,337
N64	2000-11-21	3376	[B]Sin and Punishment[/B]		Nintendo	0	37,918
N64	2000-03-31	3367	[B]Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 Ketteihan!	[/B]Nintendo	0	33,530



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GCN	2001-11-21	665	[B]Super Smash Bros. Melee[/B]			Nintendo	0	1,349,418
GCN	2002-11-08	893	Mario Party 4				Nintendo	6800	902,348
GCN	2003-11-07	1212	Mario Kart: Double Dash!!		Nintendo	5800	825,894
GCN	2002-07-19	902	Super Mario Sunshine			Nintendo	6800	789,989
GCN	2002-12-13	904	Zelda: The Wind Waker			Nintendo	6800	742,609
GCN	2003-11-28	1213	Mario Party 5				Nintendo	5800	697,462
GCN	2001-12-14	662	Animal Crossing				Nintendo	6800	641,300
GCN	2004-11-18	1745	Mario Party 6				Nintendo	5800	527,132
GCN	2001-10-26	664	Pikmin					Nintendo	0	502,996
GCN	2004-04-29	1733	Pikmin 2				Nintendo	5800	470,933
GCN	2005-11-10	1771	Mario Party 7				Nintendo	5800	454,261
GCN	2003-12-12	1197	Donkey Konga				Nintendo	6800	427,096
GCN	2003-07-11	1209	Kirby Air Ride				Nintendo	5800	422,311
GCN	2003-10-17	1241	WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Games	Nintendo	3800	400,785
GCN	2004-07-22	1739	Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door	Nintendo	5800	398,218
GCN	2003-06-27	1192	Animal Crossing e+			Nintendo	6800	386,258
GCN	2004-10-28	1744	Mario Tennis				Nintendo	5800	377,172
GCN	2001-09-14	663	Luigi's Mansion				Nintendo	6800	348,918
GCN	2005-07-21	1766	Mario Superstar Baseball		Nintendo	5800	229,754
GCN	2002-09-27	901	Star Fox Adventures			Nintendo	6800	259,067
GCN	2004-12-16	1748	Donkey Kong Jungle Beat			Nintendo	5800	220,132
GCN	2005-02-24	1753	Star Fox Assault			Nintendo	6800	195,407
GCN	2003-09-05	1211	Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour		Nintendo	6800	192,802
GCN	2006-01-19	1776	Super Mario Strikers			Nintendo	5800	191,993
GCN	2005-04-20	1759	Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance		Nintendo	6800	156,413
GCN	2004-03-04	1729	Custom Robo Battle Revolution		Nintendo	5800	144,049
GCN	2004-05-27	1734	Wario World				Nintendo	5800	142,845
GCN	2002-02-21	885	Cubivore				Nintendo	0	130,041
GCN	2004-03-18	1732	Zelda: Four Swords Adventures		Nintendo	5800	127,399
GCN	2002-03-14	887	Doshin the Giant			Nintendo	0	126,951
GCN	2003-02-07	1219	Nintendo Puzzle Collection		Nintendo	5800	110,108
GCN	2004-07-01	1735	Donkey Konga 2: Hit Song Parade		Nintendo	4500	106,309
GCN	2003-07-25	1200	F-Zero GX				Nintendo	5800	100,981
GCN	2005-06-23	1763	Chibi-Robo!				Nintendo	5800	97,879
GCN	2005-03-17	1756	Donkey Konga 3				Nintendo	4500	80,510
GCN	2003-02-28	1215	Metroid Prime				Nintendo	6800	78,384
GCN	2003-04-25	1204	Giftpia					Nintendo	5800	69,714
GCN	2001-09-14	666	Wave Race: Blue Storm			Nintendo	6800	62,003
GCN	2006-02-23	1777	Baten Kaitos Origins			Nintendo	6800	44,297
GCN	2005-07-14	1764	Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix	Nintendo	6800	59,922
GCN	2005-10-27	1768	Battalion Wars				Nintendo	5800	55,565
GCN	2002-08-09	894	Disney's Magical Mirror Mickey Mouse	Nintendo	6800	41,693
GCN	2005-05-26	1760	Metroid Prime 2: Echoes			Nintendo	6800	40,355
GCN	2005-12-08	1775	Densetsu no Quiz Ou Ketteisen		Nintendo	0	38,442
GCN	2004-07-01	3141	Donkey Konga 1+2 Pack			Nintendo	4179	27,068
GCN	2004-01-22	1727	1080 Avalanche				Nintendo	5800	19,417
GCN	2006-04-13	1778	Odama					Nintendo	0	18,771
GCN	2004-10-14	1743	Kuririn Squash!				Nintendo	3800	18,562
GCN	2002-10-25	888	Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem	Nintendo	0	15,322

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Plat	Release Date	Title				Publisher	FW	LTD Sales
WII	2009-12-03	New Super Mario Bros. Wii	Nintendo	936,734	4,567,937	
WII	2006-12-02	Wii Sports			Nintendo	176,880	3,724,264	
WII	2008-04-10	Mario Kart Wii			Nintendo	608,147	3,701,492	
WII	2009-06-25	Wii Sports Resort		Nintendo	353,827	3,143,214	
WII	2009-10-01	Wii Fit Plus			Nintendo	318,755	2,409,957	
WII	2010-07-08	Wii Party			Nintendo	223,595	2,382,177	
WII	2008-01-31	Super Smash Bros. Brawl		Nintendo	816,198	2,303,103	
WII	2007-07-26	Mario Party 8			Nintendo	282,389	1,470,332	
WII	2008-11-20	Animal Crossing: City Folk	Nintendo	303,204	1,221,459	
WII	2010-05-27	Super Mario Galaxy 2		Nintendo	337,569	1,043,028	
WII	2007-11-01	Super Mario Galaxy		Nintendo	256,341	1,025,664	
WII	2010-12-09	Donkey Kong Country Returns	Nintendo	165,859	977,034		
WII	2010-10-21	Mario All-Stars: Limited 	Nintendo	300,919	917,146		
WII	2011-07-21	Rhythm Heaven Fever		Nintendo	130,781	709,762	
WII	2012-04-26	Mario Party 9			Nintendo	163,631	700,442	
WII	2011-10-27	Kirby's Return to Dream Land	Nintendo	144,121	695,464	
WII	2006-12-02	WarioWare: Smooth Moves		Nintendo	63,086	658,422	
WII	2011-10-13	Just Dance Wii			Nintendo	93,183	653,888	
WII	2010-11-25	Mario Sports Mix		Nintendo	84,940	648,928	
WII	2007-11-22	Mario & Sonic (Olympic)		Nintendo	67,054	594,157	
WII	2006-12-02	Zelda: Twilight Princess	Nintendo	145,068	554,109	
WII	2007-04-19	Super Paper Mario		Nintendo	156,055	506,298	
WII	2010-10-14	Kirby's Epic Yarn		Nintendo	109,253	492,588	
WII	2008-10-16	Wii Music			Nintendo	98,865	424,192	
WII	2006-12-14	Pokémon Battle Revolution	Pokémon Co.	60,310	352,123		
WII	2011-11-23	Zelda: Skyward Sword		Nintendo	194,894	346,802	
WII	2009-12-05	PokéPark Wii			Pokémon Co.	57,185	334,706		
WII	2007-04-26	Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree	Nintendo	43,119	324,288	
WII	2011-11-12	PokéPark 2: Wonders Beyond	Pokémon Co.	33,781	318,523		
WII	2009-01-15	NPC! Mario Power Tennis		Nintendo	55,391	249,033	
WII	2012-07-26	Just Dance Wii 2		Nintendo	61,382	239,582	
WII	2012-07-19	Kirby's Dream Collection	Nintendo	100,396	238,109	
WII	2008-05-01	Link's Crossbow Training	Nintendo	89,879	227,621	
WII	2007-09-20	Mario Strikers: Charged		Nintendo	32,725	225,556	
WII	2011-12-08	Mario & Sonic London 2012	Nintendo	24,330	221,542	
WII	2008-06-19	Super Mario Stadium: Baseball	Nintendo	58,612	217,832	
WII	2009-11-05	Mario & Sonic Winter Games	Nintendo	24,476	194,916	
WII	2009-03-12	New Play Control! Pikmin 2	Nintendo	28,256	187,939	
WII	2007-02-22	Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn	Nintendo	73,337	171,924	
WII	2008-12-25	New Play Control! Pikmin	Nintendo	48,229	170,866	
WII	2010-06-10	Xenoblade Chronicles		Nintendo	79,163	163,442	
WII	2011-01-27	The Last Story			Nintendo	109,704	157,359	
WII	2008-07-24	Wario Land: Shake It!		Nintendo	24,291	118,963	
WII	2008-12-11	NPC! Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat	Nintendo	25,216	114,657	
WII	2011-06-30	GoldenEye 007			Nintendo	37,457	108,340	
WII	2011-08-04	Disney Epic Mickey		Nintendo	29,281	89,363	
WII	2008-03-06	Minna no Joushikiryoku Terebi	Nintendo	13,893	84,551	
WII	2010-11-18	FlingSmash			Nintendo	5,670	83,567	
WII	2007-01-18	Excite Truck			Nintendo	20,939	81,189	
WII	2007-06-28	Donkey Kong: Barrel Blast	Nintendo	26,215	79,201	
WII	2010-09-02	Metroid: Other M		Nintendo	44,103	75,578	
WII	2008-03-06	Metroid Prime 3: Corruption	Nintendo	34,151	74,647	
WII	2008-05-15	Battalion Wars 2		Nintendo	24,893	74,086	
WII	2008-07-31	Fatal Frame: Tsukihami no Kamen	Nintendo	29,869	73,449	
WII	2010-02-11	Zangeki no Reginleiv		Nintendo	22,966	47,250	
WII	2007-08-02	Endless Ocean			Nintendo	17,567	47,227	
WII	2012-06-28	Fatal Frame II: Wii Edition	Nintendo	24,804	45,143	
WII	2011-05-26	Pandora's Tower			Nintendo	22,344	43,392	
WII	2009-09-17	Endless Ocean: Blue World	Nintendo	17,502	41,363	
WII	2009-06-11	New Play Control! Chibi-Robo	Nintendo	10,757	38,573	
WII	2009-02-05	Another Code: R			Nintendo	10,070	33,449	
WII	2009-12-17	NHK Kouhaku Quiz Gassen		Nintendo	5,600	30,249	
WII	2008-09-25	Disaster: Day of Crisis		Nintendo	12,768	27,896	
WII	2007-03-08	Eyeshield 21			Nintendo	9,220	26,013	
WII	2009-07-23	Punch-Out!!			Nintendo	5,582	24,151	
WII	2008-08-28	Captain Rainbow			Nintendo	6,361	22,682	
WII	2009-02-19	NPC! Metroid Prime		Nintendo	5,200	20,607	
WII	2009-10-29	Sin&Punishment: Star Successor	Nintendo	10,476	19,951	
WII	2009-05-21	Takt of Magic			Nintendo	4,041	17,350	
WII	2010-04-29	Ando Kensaku			Nintendo	1,000	12,710	
WII	2009-06-11	NPC! Metroid Prime 2: Echoes	Nintendo	1,700	12,427	
WII	2012-01-19	Kiki Trick			Nintendo	?	10,620

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Wii U so far:
WIU	2012-12-08	New Super Mario Bros. U		Nintendo	170,563 / 1,208,284	(bundled - still sold at least over 500K+ unbundled)
WIU	2013-10-31	Wii Party U			Nintendo	79,715	/ 788,085 	(bundled - over 100K unbundled)
WIU	2014-05-29	Mario Kart 8			Nintendo	350,749	/ 702,683	still charting weekly
WIU	2013-11-21	Super Mario 3D World		Nintendo	106,967	/ 580,238	
WIU	2012-12-08	Nintendo Land			Nintendo	78,461	/ 382,954 	
WIU	2013-07-13	Pikmin 3			Nintendo	102,188	/ 232,313	
WIU	2013-10-31	Wii Fit U [all]			Nintendo	5,683	/ 176,924	(bundled)
WIU	2014-08-14	Hyrule Warriors			Koei Tecmo	78,773	/ 119,948	
WIU	2014-02-13	DKC: Tropical Freeze		Nintendo	43,301	/ 109,329	
WIU	2013-07-13	New Super Luigi U		Nintendo	27,312	/ 100,231	
WIU	2013-07-25	LEGO City Undercover		Nintendo	18,077	/ 74,734
WIU	2013-03-28	Game & Wario			Nintendo	23,995	/ 68,000	
WIU	2014-04-03	Just Dance Wii U		Nintendo	19,970	/ 56,060	
WIU	2013-09-26	Zelda: The Wind Waker HD	Nintendo 	31,154	/ 48,400	
WIU	2014-09-20	Bayonetta 2			Nintendo	33,114	/ 42,398 	still charting weekly
WIU	2014-09-27	Fatal Frame V			Koei Tecmo 	32,476	/ 32,476 	still charting weekly
WIU	2014-04-24	NES Remix 1 & 2 {DL}		Nintendo	11,020	/ 27,124	
WIU	2013-08-24	The Wonderful 101		Nintendo	6,663	/ 27,028
 
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Cess007

Member
I know it's not on the title thread, but, no Wii data? It may help to see the rise (from the GC era) and fall (on the WiiU) of software sales ^^

Edit: Incredible to think that Smash 64 actually sold more than Ocarina of Time in Japan
 
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L Thammy

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MikeE21286 said:
Do you have column headings? Kinda hard to read...
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They're LTD numbers on the furthest right. When you see a slash, the right number is LTD and the left is probably first week.

The other numbers are release date, ID (not important) and price in yen (defaults to zero is unavailable)
 
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MrSaturn99

Member
Wow @ those Gamecube numbers, particularly at Mario Party 4 being so high and Metroid Prime 1+2 so low. I knew Metroid was never a hot seller in Japan, but geez.
 
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Mory Dunz

Member
sörine;131556638 said:
Nintendo Land wasn't bundled in Japan btw.
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Wow, it wasn't?

Random thoughts repost from MC:

Mory Dunz said:
Mk64 sold more than Mario64?

What's Pokemon Stadium 3? Is it Japan only. Or was Stadium 1 Japan only?

Wind Waker was that close to Sunshine? wat...

Wow Mario Party domination.
And it's taken over 2 years for Wii U to get a Mario Party when it used to be an annual franchise pretty much.

EDIT:
Lego City had a nice LTD compared to it's FW. Sheesh

Wonder why Mario Tennis declined so much from 64-GC

Paper Mario declined but was pretty close.
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L Thammy

Member
MrSaturn99 said:
Wow @ those Gamecube numbers, particularly at Mario Party 4 being so high and Metroid Prime 1+2 so low. I knew Metroid was never a hot seller in Japan, but geez.
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I think the NES Metroid did well. I don't know the numbers off the top of my head, but I don't think Metroid is a particularly huge franchise at all, sales-wise.

Mory Dunz said:
Wow, it wasn't?
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Neither was Wii Sports, funny enough.

@Pokemon Stadium 3: That's our Pokemon Stadium 2. The original Pokemon Stadium was Japan-exclusive and didn't support all 151.
 
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BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Wow! Did not know Eternal Darkness did THAT badly over there. That's somehow more depressing than W101's numbers.

Surprised at Wind Waker HD's numbers. Likely did better here since it was bundled.
Was the Gamecube version of Twilight Princess not released in Japan? I don't see it.
 
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sörine

Banned
L Thammy said:
I think the NES Metroid did well. I don't know the numbers off the top of my head, but I don't think Metroid is a particularly huge franchise at all, sales-wise.
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Off the top of my head Metroid was ~1.04m and Super Metroid was ~700k. I think Fusion did 200-300k too but I'm a little iffy on that one.

Part of the reason Other M was such a disappointment is that Nintendo expected it to sell much better in Japan than the Prime takes had, but it basically sold just like them. Although looking at how Skyward Sword sold just a year later maybe it wasn't so bad in retrospect.
 
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Pellegri Testament

Member
Would assume Prime 3 is somewhere around the sales numbers of 1/2. Doesn't surprise me though that once Retro took the lead on Metroid/DK, the numbers just flat out bombed in Japan for any game made by them. Hint
Retro is a Western studio
. This chart kinda makes certain things clear however about how console games in general do in Japan even when so many of them are marketed much more in their own country than they are here.
 
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udivision

Member
L Thammy said:
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GCN 	2003-11-21 	1226 	Pokémon Colosseum 		Pokémon 	5800 	656,270
GCN 	2005-08-04 	1767 	Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness 	Pokémon 	5800 	265,464
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Hmm... I'm beginning to think that Nintendo pays more attention to the Japanese sales than the WW sales. That could explain a few things.
 
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Beren the Empty-Handed

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Mory Dunz said:
What's Pokemon Stadium 3? Is it Japan only. Or was Stadium 1 Japan only?
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Pokemon Stadium 1 was Japan only, and for good reason. You could only use 42 of the 151 Pokemon, and there wasn't any other mode besides Battle/Tournament and Gameboy Tower. Oh and the Pokedex stuff. Nintendo then followed that up with what we know as Pokemon Stadium, which is Pokemon Stadium 2 over in Japan. So our 2 is their 3.

At least we didn't miss out on anything.
 
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Duderz

Banned
Did Nintendo ever give figures for Twilight Princess on GCN? If I recall, they only offered it to buy online.
 
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QuixoticNeutral

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Pikmin 1 and 2 are considerably higher on the GCN list than I expected. Numbers for the mid-tier N64 library are higher than I thought across the board; I always considered its first-party offering to be Nintendo's shallowest and most top-heavy. It puts the contraction of the home console market in perspective.

I knew Metroid had next to no presence in Japan but I didn't know the Prime games were both down in territory that Bayonetta 2 is likely to surpass.

Also notable is the massive gulf between Wind Waker HD's reception in Japan and the rest of the world (48k Japan versus over a million worldwide as of February, compared to 742k in Japan and 3 million worldwide for the original GameCube release). Was this a unique incidence of saturation among players interested in Zelda, or is there a pattern in the country of little interest in HD remakes? Perhaps it's that in the western market the original game suffered from the 'Celda' backlash and it was only later that players realized they had missed out on a classic, but it also seems reasonable to surmise that HD remakes are a much bigger deal in markets where HD home consoles are also healthy. I don't know if the numbers for other remasters back that up.

Pellegri Testament said:
Would assume Prime 3 is somewhere around the sales numbers of 1/2. Doesn't surprise me though that once Retro took the lead on Prime/DK, the numbers just flat out bombed in Japan for any game made by them. Hint
Retro is a Western studio
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Well, Next Level did break a million in Japan with Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon last year, and they're a plausible candidate to handle a future Metroid. It's possible that western development isn't nearly the poison pill that the Metroid brand has become.
 
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Lumyst

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AcademicSaucer said:
Nintendo should give up on home consoles, seek new sources of revenue , diversify their portfolio
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I think they'll still have a way to play their games on the TV, just that they'll treat all their devices as different ways to enjoy content made for the single Nintendo platform, if that makes sense. Like, they'll market the family of devices under the same brand, but it'll be up to the consumer to choose which device they prefer to play Nintendo games on and Nintendo wouldn't have to worry about under performing software that would have done better on the other device, since instead they'd be targeting the entire Nintendo family of devices. Iwata hinted at having "more form factors" so that could be like, a totally touch-based device that could be more inviting to casual gamers, a regular handheld, a box to play games on the TV, but certain games could be played across all of them. That's my guess. They've already done DKCR:3D on 3DS, they're going to put Xenoblade onto 3DS also, so they're okay with doing ports that direction, bringing a console-designed experience to a handheld. Should the next handheld be correctly designed, they could make Tropical Freeze and Xenoblade X (or maybe one of the 2D games such as Kirby and Yoshi) available to the handheld after making some adjustments, for example, so as a bonus they could make use of their work from the WiiU to help get that going.

As for the topic, I think, "Damn, games got more costly to make, shouldn't sales have to be the best they've ever been in order to justify the cost of making games now?"
 
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Lord_Byron28

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Pellegri Testament said:
Would assume Prime 3 is somewhere around the sales numbers of 1/2. Doesn't surprise me though that once Retro took the lead on Metroid/DK, the numbers just flat out bombed in Japan for any game made by them. Hint
Retro is a Western studio
. This chart kinda makes certain things clear however about how console games in general do in Japan even when so many of them are marketed much more in their own country than they are here.
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Donkey Kong Country Returns did very well on the Wii though and Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon.

QuixoticNeutral said:
Pikmin 1 and 2 are considerably higher on the GCN list than I expected. Numbers for the mid-tier N64 library are higher than I thought across the board; I always considered its first-party offering to be Nintendo's shallowest and most top-heavy. It puts the contraction of the home console market in perspective.

I knew Metroid had next to no presence in Japan but I didn't know the Prime games were both down in territory that Bayonetta 2 is likely to surpass.

Also notable is the massive gulf between Wind Waker HD's reception in Japan and the rest of the world (48k Japan versus over a million worldwide as of February, compared to 742k in Japan and 3 million worldwide for the original GameCube release). Was this a unique incidence of saturation among players interested in Zelda, or is there a pattern in the country of little interest in HD remakes? Perhaps it's that in the western market the original game suffered from the 'Celda' backlash and it was only later that players realized they had missed out on a classic, but it also seems reasonable to surmise that HD remakes are a much bigger deal in markets where HD home consoles are also healthy. I don't know if the numbers for other remasters back that up.



Well, Next Level did break a million in Japan with Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon last year, and they're a plausible candidate to handle a future Metroid. It's possible that western development isn't nearly the poison pill that the Metroid brand has become.
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Yeah, Pikmin could've been a much larger franchise if it had been handled correctly. It was fairly popular in Japan and had there been a Pikmin sequel made on the Wii before 2011 it would've done very well and the series would probably be much larger. Pikmin was a fairly successful new franchise but Nintendo just dropped the ball with Pikmin.
 
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Derphoof

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So... could Mario Party actually be somewhat of a system seller in Japan?

Would like to see how the franchise fared on Wii.
 
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Mozz-eyes

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Damn, this chat about next level games handling Metroid. Hmm. I found Luigi's Mansion 2 boring as hell. Constantly replaying the same areas was an awful idea, the GameCube original was far superior with one large mansion.

Dunno what they'd make of Metroid tbh...
 
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Mr. RPG

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MrSaturn99 said:
Wow @ those Gamecube numbers, particularly at Mario Party 4 being so high and Metroid Prime 1+2 so low. I knew Metroid was never a hot seller in Japan, but geez.
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You should take almost all "sales data" as a grain of salt.

Some of the time sales numbers are actually higher because they only include the first week sales and not the total sales while the game was sold in stores.
 
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Jamix012

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Mr. RPG said:
You should take almost all "sales data" as a grain of salt.

Some of the time sales numbers are actually higher because they only include the first week sales and not the total sales while the game was sold in stores.
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What? How is this applicable at all. At most for anything on these charts will be a few percent off due to slight errors. This data is pretty much dead on and if you're suggesting there's more than maybe a a few percent off in either way...I don't know. Some of the Wii U stuff will be off because it's still selling and has digital I guess...
 
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