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Nintendo E3 plans detailed
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Dark Cloud
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Does anybody take off work for E3? I'm kind of lucky that I don't work during the times of the conferences/Spotlight so I never have to take work off.
NightwingRebirth
Member
Tantalus is working on Sonic Mania for the Switch, not sure how large they are and how many games they can work on at once, but it's worth mentioning in the post, I think.
As for the Pokemon thing, yeah, the game is pretty damn accessible and is a fairly strong multiplayer title (does anyone have any numbers that could point to how many players actually battle or trade online?), I'd have to imagine.
I think, as far as multiplayer games go, the Switch has enough for the year. I mean, MK8D, ARMS, and Splatoon 2, plus those online VC games we're supposed to get later, on top of stuff like FIFA and NBA 2K? All the Switch is missing is major shooters like CoD, games like Overwatch, and MMOs.
TheSuperSakura
Member
Back when I worked I used to. I'm in college now, but I have missed a class period or two so I can watch the Nintendo event in past years.
There WILL be new fruit dammit!
I'm planning on doing it for the day of Nintendo's conference.
MS and Bethesda have theirs on Sunday, EA's is on Saturday, and Sony's is at 8pm for me, so the only one I'll end up missing is Ubisoft's, which I'll just watch when I get home and do my best to avoid the internet.
I don't give a shit about the PC conference. It's been crap every time I've watched it.
Okami Haundo
Member
I used to back when I worked in retail. Now I have a desk job with my own office so I'll have no problem tuning in while doing other work. Can't complain!
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Tantalus are also working on the Switch port of Rime. I agree with your post though. I think, another thing to point out is that both Splatoon 2 and ARMS are getting free DLC. Nintendo will still want people to be playing and buying them by the holidays. Throw in Mario Kart and Pokemon and that's plenty to justify the online subscription.
I know that Blizzard seemed apprehensive about it but Overwatch really would do gangbusters on Switch. It seems like a total no-brainer.
One thing that I think could possibly be announced at E3 (on the Treehouse Live, not the Nintendo Spotlight, obviously) is more content for Snipperclips. I think Nintendo knows that Snipperclips is good at selling the Switch 2-player experience, and with more content they'd strengthen that IP even more for the Holiday season.
mickagau33
Member
After reading Laura Kate Dale infos about "Pikmin 4 being some sort of reboot, not called "4" and planned for 2017" from a few months ago, isn't "Hey Pikmin" fitting the bill ?
I mean it is a new Pikmin game, not called 4. It features Olimar crashing (again) on a planet. The premise is exactly the same as the first game (also, Olimar is also alone this time again). From previews, it seems the game has a broader appeal, and is aimed at kids with its more accessible gameplay. And it comes out in 2017. We also never had a confirmation "this is not Pikmin 4" (or do we?) about Hey Pikmin. I know it is not internally developped by Nintendo but it's not like Nintendo "gives" its IP and say "do whatever you want"
I mean it is a new Pikmin game, not called 4. It features Olimar crashing (again) on a planet. The premise is exactly the same as the first game (also, Olimar is also alone this time again). From previews, it seems the game has a broader appeal, and is aimed at kids with its more accessible gameplay. And it comes out in 2017. We also never had a confirmation "this is not Pikmin 4" (or do we?) about Hey Pikmin. I know it is not internally developped by Nintendo but it's not like Nintendo "gives" its IP and say "do whatever you want"
casey_contra
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I've told this story here before but I love sharing it
Back in High School I was never allowed to skip, but one E3 I had my mom watch Nintendo's conference and take notes so that when she picked me up from school she could do a recap before I got home to watch it. It was the year Super Mario Galaxy 2 was announced and I actually didn't believe her!
I may attend this year's E3 (I have a ticket but there are some work conflicts), and when I told my family my mom said "ooh, that's what I watched, right?"
I'm really grateful to have a family that supported my passion.
TheSuperSakura
Member
That's such a sweet memory! I watched my first E3 in 2010. I was still in high school and when my sister realized she watched the E3 event with me. I think Kirby Epic Yarn was announced that year.I've told this story here before but I love sharing it
Back in High School I was never allowed to skip, but one E3 I had my mom watch Nintendo's conference and take notes so that when she picked me up from school she could do a recap before I got home to watch it. It was the year Super Mario Galaxy 2 was announced and I actually didn't believe her!
I may attend this year's E3 (I have a ticket but there are some work conflicts), and when I told my family my mom said "ooh, that's what I watched, right?"
I'm really grateful to have a family that supported my passion.
Okami Haundo
Member
I've wondered about this, but weren't the original rumblings about the supposed Pikmin 4 from interviews with Miyamoto? I don't think we've seen definite confirmation that "Hey! Pikmin!" is the game he was talking about, but we haven't seen evidence to the contrary either.
Given that they have a nearly complete (or absolutely complete) 3D Mario game that they're just sitting on until fall, I wouldn't rule out Pikmin 4 being a thing. It seems like there were quite a few Wii-U projects that got shifted over to Switch.
Skittzo0413
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So apparently there won't be any "new" Rockstar games at E3?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1379427
Then when will the LA Noire Remaster be announced? Or is that not considered "new"?
NinjaCoachZ
Member
I'm actually very skeptical about that for the same reasons. In fact, when you actually look at Miyamoto's quotes about a new Pikmin game... there's nothing in them that proves he isn't referring to Hey Pikmin.
The only reason people are hoping there is some other mysterious Pikmin game is because a Nintendo representative said "We can confirm Pikmin 4 is in development, but nothing else." Miyamoto himself said nothing that suggested it was a mainline game on consoles, just that it was a Pikmin game that was "close to completion". "Pikmin teams are always working on the next one." Except he didn't define who these "Pikmin teams" are. Could easily just be himself and any other relevant producers. Also note the plural - he didn't specify EPD.
Surely Occam's razor would suggest the actual Pikmin game close to completion that we've already seen is what he was referring to. To say nothing about the fact that it's on 3DS; a system that makes sense for them to have been developing for in 2015.
Mediking
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Yoshimitsu126
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I can't see Pokemon and Smash releasing this year. Even though Smash is a port and sold a lot on 3DS, it can still well and the line up without it is pretty stacked already. Pokemon makes more sense to release this year than Smash Bros. to convince people of Switch's portability and future Pokemon titles for their fans.
I agree that its one or the other. Nintendo has been very strategic with releases so far and I think Mario, Smash AND Pokemon would be overkill.
Okami Haundo
Member
None that I've seen, but I still firmly believe that it'll be at E3 based on hope alone. Summer just seems like the perfect time to get it started before the one free game rental per month thing starts in fall.
Stop playing my heart strings sam.. You know too much to not be trouble but are too coy for your own good.
And I agree, people didn't want to listen earlier but Nintendo cannot afford to not overstuff the channels. Most of their titles are evergreen as is so it will only look good for them to have a wide swath of titles even if Mario gets the lionshare of sales. You have to keep up appearances. It is the only way they can truly change the way folks see them in the wider market.
Yeah, it is the console's first Christmas...only Mario would have been enough
It is only going to be on E3 if they announce random Mother 3 or something weirder like GameCube or Saturn or Dreamcast support
It is only going to be on E3 if they announce random Mother 3 or something weirder like GameCube or Saturn or Dreamcast support
Okami Haundo
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I'm not convinced that those games are enough personally. Skyrim and Xenoblade will have audiences for sure, but not in the way that Smash would. As others have noted, they could also use an online-focused title to really push their service that launches in fall. I don't think MK8, Splatoon 2, and ARMS will be enough.
I'm of the belief that the Virtual Console service needs an overhaul for Switch. Launching it with at least one or more big games that people have wanted for a while would be great, but I don't think they need that to justify talking about it at E3.
Well I mean it's been hinted at by others and the remaster is suppose to be on other systems as well.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Rockstar probably isn't going to bother with Switch either way.
Dark Cloud
Member
LA Snore was such a boring game. I couldn't beat it because I was falling asleep playing it. I definitely wouldn't rebuy it.
I mean yeah - I'm just saying that if they're thinking about it, and this might be their way of testing the waters - it's the wrong way to do it.
Put Red Dead Redemption on it instead, and I guarantee that shit would sell like CRAZY.
The big case for Smash releasing this year is that Nintendo will need a big online game for when they start charging for online. ARMs and Splatoon would have been out for months, they will need something fresh.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Isn't a Red Dead remaster more trouble than its worth? Difficult code or something.
They lost the code apparently.
James Scott
Banned
I imagine it's because they're missing out on a ton of money.
This is hilarious if true. How the hell would they lose the code to RDR?
Road to E3 is somehow worrying imho
I mean: the main goal the Switch should have been in terms of being an hybrid would have been to merge the portable and home usual output (from Nintendo, Japanese softco usually working on portable and indie scene - not talking about an actual change of sort in terms of third party relationship)
This should have created a landscape with way more games than before (the classic "3ds + Wii U lineups merged togheter" thing you know), with way less voids/droughts
Instead it seems to me that we are seeing a normal (even if well balanced, compared to the 3DS or Wii U first 6 months) release schedule, still waaay thinner than competitors
I mean: Emily Rogers hinted many times at a Switch first year (I've always assumed March/December 2017) lineup able to destory the Wii U year 1 one.
Even if we'll see MarioxRabbids, Fire Emblem Warriors, Mario Oddissey and Xenoblade 2 all released in the second half of the year, I'd say that it is a great lineup of first/second party products, exclusive (more or less) to the system, very interesting and probably able to attract way more buyers than the Wii U, but still a "simple" even if well-managed usual Nintendo home console lineup.
Nothing mind blowing, in terms of "change of pace" in terms of software release.
I'd say that Nintendo should REALLY pump way more software out starting from Q1 2018 (once the production ramp up of the console should have been adjusted), with an E3 full of reveals also for the projects that will hit the system later on, actually confirming this "rumored" merge between their portable and home internal/partnership software output
What do you think?
I mean: the main goal the Switch should have been in terms of being an hybrid would have been to merge the portable and home usual output (from Nintendo, Japanese softco usually working on portable and indie scene - not talking about an actual change of sort in terms of third party relationship)
This should have created a landscape with way more games than before (the classic "3ds + Wii U lineups merged togheter" thing you know), with way less voids/droughts
Instead it seems to me that we are seeing a normal (even if well balanced, compared to the 3DS or Wii U first 6 months) release schedule, still waaay thinner than competitors
I mean: Emily Rogers hinted many times at a Switch first year (I've always assumed March/December 2017) lineup able to destory the Wii U year 1 one.
Even if we'll see MarioxRabbids, Fire Emblem Warriors, Mario Oddissey and Xenoblade 2 all released in the second half of the year, I'd say that it is a great lineup of first/second party products, exclusive (more or less) to the system, very interesting and probably able to attract way more buyers than the Wii U, but still a "simple" even if well-managed usual Nintendo home console lineup.
Nothing mind blowing, in terms of "change of pace" in terms of software release.
I'd say that Nintendo should REALLY pump way more software out starting from Q1 2018 (once the production ramp up of the console should have been adjusted), with an E3 full of reveals also for the projects that will hit the system later on, actually confirming this "rumored" merge between their portable and home internal/partnership software output
What do you think?
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Rogers was referring to the first calendar year, through to March 2018. See also said we would have Pokémon, Smash Bros, Metroid and a Retro new IP during that time period as well. I would say that's a very impressive lineup, and better than any odd Wii U/3DS lineup (I mean, Zelda, Mario, Pokémon, Metroid, Smash Bros, Xenoblade, Splatoon 2 and several smaller IP and new IP? That's massive if it materialises).
If Rogers is right, the release schedule from Nintendo IP through to March 2018 would be this:
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild;
- Snipperclips (can someone confirm/reject this being a first party IP?);
- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe;
- ARMS;
- Splatoon 2;
- Mario x Rabbids: Kingdom Battle;
- Fire Emblem Warriors;
- Pokémon Stars;
- Super Mario Odyssey;
- Xenoblade Chronicles 2;
- Pikmin 4;
- Retro new IP.
That's a long list of first party titles, and many massive franchise to boot. My knowledge of 3DS and Wii U lineups is not up to snuff, but I doubt either had a lineup quite as great as this.
Edit: Found the tweet:
Have adjusted for what is and isn't there (plus what we know is coming already (she didn't know a full lineup per se, she just heard about projects for the first year). Also, looks like there wasn't a Metroid title according to her. The new IP she mentions is most likely ARMS btw.Emily Rogers said:
Wasn't it rumored that the code was a mess? I've not heard anything about them losing the code.
Okami Haundo
Member
Wasn't Emily's point about "destroying the Wii-U" based on first party output? In relation to that, I think Nintendo is doing a fantastic job of planning to release at least one great game per month on their own. That's a level of output that they used to accomplish between both 3DS and Wii-U, so I think we're already seeing some benefits of that approach.
As time goes on I think they'll speed things up, but I don't ever want them to release 4+ first party titles per month. Give me at least one first party game and back it with third party and I'll be more than happy. I've had no complaints about the software output on Switch thus far.
Skittzo0413
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Honestly I think the first party lineup we know about is better than either the Wii U's or 3DS first years by a good measure, both in quantity and quality. But I do agree that they should really hammer home that idea of combined output at E3, and I'm hoping they do so. Who knows though.
James Scott
Banned
A big first party game every calendar month from launch till the end of the year is a pretty noteworthy feat. Sure, May lacks anything from Nintendo but it still has the Nintendo version of minecraft, disgaea, and other titles. With Rabbids basically confirmed real we'd need like 1 more game announced (with two rumored being Smash and Pokemon) to have a full calendar year.
We don't know much of 2018, though. Maybe things will slow down but it's looking pretty good so far and it's what I've wanted from Nintendo for awhile.
Assuming nothing gets delayed or at least one more game gets announced that would be around 10+ first party titles for the first 9 months.
We don't know much of 2018, though. Maybe things will slow down but it's looking pretty good so far and it's what I've wanted from Nintendo for awhile.
Assuming nothing gets delayed or at least one more game gets announced that would be around 10+ first party titles for the first 9 months.
I'm just hoping that Japan is fully on board sooner rather than later...Things like the recent Level 5 comment are worrying as fuck that Switch will have a slow start once Nintendo's initial onslaught ends (and it is a strong effort from them, and hopefully markedly stronger than we even know).
Nintendo ideally would have had Japan confident in Switch before it launched and the lag in support cut to a minimum for an industry that tends to be slow in transition.
Nintendo ideally would have had Japan confident in Switch before it launched and the lag in support cut to a minimum for an industry that tends to be slow in transition.
throw in a Mario Kart 8 bundle and yeah I think they'd be all set
James Scott
Banned
I believe Nintendo said they'd let the 3rd parties carry 3DS for a couple months, seems like Switch might be the opposite with Nintendo establishing an exclusive library early on and hoping 3rd parties come in later?
Do hope it doesn't take too long for 3rd parties to start supporting it.