-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Nintendo Ending Wi-Fi Connection Worldwide on May 20th
- Thread starter StreetsAhead
- Start date
- Status
RoninChaos
Member
What does this mean for DQIX?
I have all the Layton games on the pile of shame. Can I log in and download the stuff for them without actually playing the games?
I have all the Layton games on the pile of shame. Can I log in and download the stuff for them without actually playing the games?
GenericJoe
Member
Yup. Things like the Professor Layton series and Dragon Quest IX are just unlocking content, not actually downloading it, so worst-case scenario you could always unlock the content in the future with an Action Replay. However, the Picross games are actually downloading the puzzles, so once online is gone, they're gone. Which is a big problem since all of the downloadable puzzles cannot fit on one cart.
For any Picross DS or Picross 3D fans out there that are trying to decide which puzzles to keep and which to abandon to the void forever, I would highly recommend you look into a flashcart as a means of preserving ALL of the downloadable puzzles. I don't condone piracy, but short of buying 10 copies of Picross DS, this is the only way to keep all these puzzles.
Starwolf_UK
Member
So now I read about the fact the NAND save format used by Wario Ware DIY and Jam with the Band (but possibly not the Japanese release) it was never figured out how to dump it. Also I wonder what the lifetime of the NAND exactly is...
Earlier in the thread someone said it has been down for over a year. Thanks Square Enix. Better invest in an action replay or something if you want to see the content...
The Dream world died shortly after the Pokemon XY release. I can't imagine many people battle anymore and Gen 5 GTS is not fun with no way to filter all the level 9 or under Zekrom requests from any Pokemon.
Hi everyone, I have a bit of a tech problem. I realise how ridiculous this method is but bear with me.
I have a Nintendo WiFi USB Connector from years ago, and my internet isn't WEP, so I'm having to figure out a way to use it so I can go on a WiFi spree. Changing the internet type isn't really an option because I don't want to annoy everyone else in the house by having them have to reenter passwords, then reenter them again when I change back to a more secure network. Plus it's kinda fun trying to get this to work.
Anyway, I have Windows 8, and the Wifi USB connector doesn't support a Windows OS past Vista. Running setup in compatibility mode doesn't cut it either, the drivers simply aren't compatible. So I set up a virtual machine running Windows XP. Surprisingly I didn't mess that step up, and I plugged in the WiFi connector, activated it in VirtualBox installed the drivers on the virtual machine.
From there, everything seemed to work fine. My DS picked up the connector, the Nintendo program found my DS and gave me access to WiFi. But I'm stuck on the final step, in WiFi settings on my DS...I go through connection settings to register the WiFi signal, but when testing the connection my DS displays an internet connection for about 3-4 seconds, then the bars go red and the connection test fails. My Virtual Machine can access the internet, so I don't know what the problem could be.
Does anyone with experience with the Nintendo WiFi Connector/virtual machines/this exact same setup(doubtful) know what the problem could be? Thanks in advance. Yes I know this is stupid. But I want Dragon Quest IX stuff
Hi lewisgn. Well, I never tried the Wifi Connector, but here's a method I used to play DS games online. If you can, try this:
1- Find an old cheap router that supports WEP
2- Connect your cheap router to your normal router with a network cable. Your normal router will provide internet to your cheap router through cable.
3- Configure your cheap router to transmit a wireless WEP signal. Your normal router will still continue to transmit a normal Wifi connection.
4- Now everyone in your house can still connect to the normal connection, while the DS will use the cheap router's WEP signal.
I used this for my little brother and it works. The only thing that is kind of hard, is to configure Static IP's in the cheap router, because it will have to be in the same subnet of the normal router. If you wanna try this and have some difficulty, tell me and I will help you.
Throwaway123456789
Member
DS games on Wii U will most likely have no online play.
GameSpy was bought in 2012, right? The 3DS came out in 2011. I just hope that the reason online 3DS games didn't use "Nintendo Wifi Connection" and the whole birth of Nintendo Network means Nintendo saw the writing in the wall and moved away from GameSpy.
If they were smart (and sneaky), they'd make that a selling point for them to allow people to play those games online again.
But then they do have the attitude of "If it's too hard, we won't bother" when it comes to features in VC games :| You can't expect people to pay premium prices and then not treat them like premium products...
Starwolf_UK
Member
Picross DS and 3D have save files for all the downloadable puzzles.
Just connected Jam with the band online. Total number of songs when set to the UK is 370. I do not like the game enough to buy 6 additional copies of it in the off chance the NAND save format is figured out.
Plus I would have to write down all of the downloadable songs as the navigation is terrible.
Kinda related. There are Flipnote studio private servers? (constructied from some packet dumps made before the service shut down)
Another related thing. If you have compatible games and a router with custom firmware this website is looking for packet dumps for Wi-Fi connection games. Seems brawl uses SSL encryption for connection but the Mario Kart Wii dumps say nothing of the sort. I'd say packet dumps for things like Fire Emblem would be very helpful (as it also had a shop as part of its online, which was the only way to get the falcoknight promotion item...well aside form cheat cartridge of course).
Just connected Jam with the band online. Total number of songs when set to the UK is 370. I do not like the game enough to buy 6 additional copies of it in the off chance the NAND save format is figured out.
Plus I would have to write down all of the downloadable songs as the navigation is terrible.
Kinda related. There are Flipnote studio private servers? (constructied from some packet dumps made before the service shut down)
Another related thing. If you have compatible games and a router with custom firmware this website is looking for packet dumps for Wi-Fi connection games. Seems brawl uses SSL encryption for connection but the Mario Kart Wii dumps say nothing of the sort. I'd say packet dumps for things like Fire Emblem would be very helpful (as it also had a shop as part of its online, which was the only way to get the falcoknight promotion item...well aside form cheat cartridge of course).
I do believe GameSpy was more relevant in the early to mid 2000s than they were in the last few years, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mix of seeing issues cropping up and the fact they had more flexibility with it kept internal. But yeah, IGN wasn't in the best spot then as I recall so it was probably a foreseeable problem.
Fairly sure Nintendo Network was done entirely in-house. I've never seen a press release stating a partnership.
AlphaBovine
Neo Member
PotionBleue
Member
I don't agree with that. In Mario Kart Wii at least, hackers have created a cheat-free online mod and have patched glitches on Nintendo tracks that Nintendo themselves never patched, not to mention multiple other added functionnalities that significantly improve the experience, while still having the same safeguards for the consumer (aka lol Friend Codes and no voice chat) as the original game.
I wonder if NDS VC support was intentionally delayed until the wifi connection was shut down, for some legal reason.
They won't license the tech out for new games so it's a likely possibility.
They're pretty much being miserable fucks with GameSpy's customers.
Yeah, it's quite the bad wording. The act of hacking could be used to exploit the consumers. But in the hand of dedicated communities the online quality is almost always superior to that of non-caring companies.
RoninChaos
Member
Can an action reply unlock the grottos?
Yes
I'll give it a read. Seems informative. My assumption before all this started was that Nintendo wifi was going to be absorbed into Nintendo Network. That obviously won't happen now.
For anyone that cares:
I played Last Story online for the last few days and it was fucking awesome. I hope that they release Last Story 2 at some point and include online play for the whole game instead of just 5 bosses.
There are still people playing it. Sometimes I had to wait for 30-40 minutes though. I played with plenty of Max Level dudes and it was really awesome. I love it. I even played with 5 more players quite a few times, which was insane.
Still need to unlock 4 weapons, that are exclusive to deathmatch. So if anyone wants to boost them, just contact me via PM. I'm from Europe. I'm 100% into coop and not a fan of deathmatch-type games, but would like to get the weapons into my collection.
I played Last Story online for the last few days and it was fucking awesome. I hope that they release Last Story 2 at some point and include online play for the whole game instead of just 5 bosses.
There are still people playing it. Sometimes I had to wait for 30-40 minutes though. I played with plenty of Max Level dudes and it was really awesome. I love it. I even played with 5 more players quite a few times, which was insane.
Still need to unlock 4 weapons, that are exclusive to deathmatch. So if anyone wants to boost them, just contact me via PM. I'm from Europe. I'm 100% into coop and not a fan of deathmatch-type games, but would like to get the weapons into my collection.
I was already wondering about this. I even had trouble finding other players shortly after release. With a lot of other players, the multiplayer was great. As soon as it was just you and another player, the bosses seemed way too powerful.
It's fine. Yesterday I beat the hardest one
actually two heh
Sure, there was a newbie yesterday, that managed to fuck up the whole team by constantly breaking the healing area in front of the 1st boss. He also constantly let himself get killed, then we got the 2 minute countdown and it was over.
Holy crap. That's per game? Considering that most games are either really low bandwidth (Professor Layton puzzles) or played by just a handful players, that quite a sum.
The game was really great. I absolutely loved the linearity of the main story as well as the cutscenesl Perhaps I should start a New Game+.
I think I'd need to start a New Game+ to get used to the battle system again.
Yeah. The first few minutes I was "wat?", everything felt weird, maybe I accidentally skipped part of the intro, but I have now warmed up to the characters. The city is really nice, so much detail everywhere. And the british voice acting is something different. I needed some time to get used to it, but now I love it.
And I also loved the troll chapter, where you
try to escape the prison and then get to a deadend and return to your cell
So happy, that I bought the Limited Edition day 1. I should have played it way earlier.
I still get failures in worldwide every time
SomethingInTheSea
Member
Just picking up the Layton game spectres call and saw this thread, at what point in the games do you typically have to get to be able to download?
Starwolf_UK
Member
The site has been updated with instructions on how to dump packets using android and emulators (Dolphin and DeSmuME). Hopefully, this will lead to more games (5 Wii games and 2 DS games so far) getting dumps. Most importantly there is a build of dolphin that can dump unencrypted SSL.
Sadly, I find myself stuck watching from the sidelines as the only Internet connection I have is trough a netbook that can not run emulators.
Sure, I don't think I could remember it just now. I wish a new Mistwalker RPG came to Wii U or 3DS.
That's strange, I seriously haven't encountered any errors with this title. Perhaps it's a regional thing.
What the hell Nintendo? The Last Story hasn't even been out two years in America.
How is that acceptable?
I really should play the RPGs I buy as I'm yet to even start TLS, same issue with Solotorobo but I can't get my DS online anyway due to the aforementioned issues.
I'm pretty sure I still have a Pokemon on the GTS as I would have put in there back in the days I used Nintendo's WiFi dongle thing, poor guy is just going to be lost in cyberspace.
How is that acceptable?
I really should play the RPGs I buy as I'm yet to even start TLS, same issue with Solotorobo but I can't get my DS online anyway due to the aforementioned issues.
I'm pretty sure I still have a Pokemon on the GTS as I would have put in there back in the days I used Nintendo's WiFi dongle thing, poor guy is just going to be lost in cyberspace.
cartman414
Member
Cool. Shot that link out to a couple Gamefaqs boards just now.
This is why I'm sort of holding out hope some Wii games and even DS games might be re-released on the Wii U using the Nintendo Network. I'd love to play The Last Story online again. I didn't at first because I simply had no clue how to play the game. By the time I finally finished the game it was to late and I didn't have time to wait a half hour for a match. It was fun the few times I did play.
What I'm curious about the most is Call of Duty. Black Ops 1 I believe consistently has more then 2000 people playing that daily at any given time. The numbers are likely lower late at night given the area. MW3's numbers are below that. That's equal to the numbers Black Ops 2 and Ghosts are pulling on the Wii U. I believe World at War and even Modern Warfare Reflex (MW1) still have players. Same with the Conduit games. That could get people to migrate to the Wii U finally if they really enjoyed the pointer controls. However no way to know that for sure.
What I'm curious about the most is Call of Duty. Black Ops 1 I believe consistently has more then 2000 people playing that daily at any given time. The numbers are likely lower late at night given the area. MW3's numbers are below that. That's equal to the numbers Black Ops 2 and Ghosts are pulling on the Wii U. I believe World at War and even Modern Warfare Reflex (MW1) still have players. Same with the Conduit games. That could get people to migrate to the Wii U finally if they really enjoyed the pointer controls. However no way to know that for sure.
I think you can download immediately.
moltonasty
Member
Mind=blown. I remember having fun with the online in Conduit 1 when it came out. Didn't think there'd be anyone left at this point. I feel like going on a binge of online play for a bunch of Wii and DS games now...just because soon I won't be able to ever again.
Reposting this in case anyone can help out. Thank you!
You have to switch your access point to WEP and then it should work out.
I downloaded the puzzles for some of the layton games last year and it worked just fine.
I'll give this a shot. Can I do with with a 3DS? Thank you!
SomethingInTheSea
Member
Thanks
RoninChaos
Member
Does it glitch out the game? Any idea where I can find codes to do this?
PixyJunket
Member
This seems like a needless shutdown.
I guess I should probably get to playing The Last Story online before May.
I guess I should probably get to playing The Last Story online before May.
- Status