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No PS4, Xbox 720 before 2014, says Skyrim boss
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Lovely Salsa
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NotTarts said:
Why wouldn't it happen? I want new consoles, not only for better graphics, but also getting to play games without it being a pop up mess (cough crysis 2 cough)
That+ 60 fps
yes please. Nothing is impossible
Lovely Salsa
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Medalion said:
Since I'm a consumer, I would know!
I ALWAYS buy new consoles at launch. This was the first time I doubted to buy one. Why? Because it had no GAMES! Only interesting one was SFIV and since I didn't like the SFIV on the consoles, I certainly wasn't all too fond in purchasing it for the 3ds. Those that did like SFIV on the other hand, have probably played it to death on the consoles.
And there were no interesting games announced at the time, so we had no idea when the first GOOD games would get released without it being a port (mario for example)
Jezbollah
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No PS4, Xbox 720 before 2014, says Skyrim boss
"Consumers are happy" with current hardware, claims Bethesda's Howard
Translation:
We do not want a PS4 or Xbox 720 before 2014, says Skyrim boss
"We're going balls-deep on making Skyrim look awesome, we dont want to worry about investing the extra sum of money to do that in the next game on new hardware", begs Bethesda's Howard
"Consumers are happy" with current hardware, claims Bethesda's Howard
Translation:
We do not want a PS4 or Xbox 720 before 2014, says Skyrim boss
"We're going balls-deep on making Skyrim look awesome, we dont want to worry about investing the extra sum of money to do that in the next game on new hardware", begs Bethesda's Howard
Consumers will keep pushing for more effects and more detailed graphics, regardless of the sacrifices made along the way. It's hard not to imagine that the same thing will happen next generation.Lovely Salsa said:
I mean, honestly, there aren't a lot of games this generation that push the 1280x720/no AA/30fps envelope. Development costs are going to keep rising, though, so hopefully we'll reach a point where developers stop focusing on visual effects and asset creation and more on IQ.
DanielJr82
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I'm ok with 2014. Bring on Skyrim in 2011. =)
Palette Swap
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This is not meant as a Master Race post but this is why, a few years in a gen, PC games end up being so superior. There always comes a point in a gen when PC ridiculously outspecs consoles and the additional power can be used to finally make up for these trade-offs between effects, IQ and performance.NotTarts said:
As you said, I have no reason to think next-gen games will all of a sudden be 60 fps 1080P with great AA.
Wouldn't be surprised. I suppose one of the companies could flinch, but WiiU (unless they use well founded fear to up the specs) is going to burn spectacularly. It'd be silly for either MS/Sony to start the next generation war. WiiU is current gen and has no compelling reasons for Sony/MS customers to abandon them for Nintendo. From a business POV, milk that for every cent.
Lovely Salsa
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NotTarts said:
How many PC games are out there that a high end computer can't play in 1080p 60 fps? Is there even one?
H_Prestige
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Next gen consoles will not just be current gen graphics at higher settings. The visuals will be much more sophisticated, just like current gen vs. last gen.polyh3dron said:
Lovely Salsa
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daviyoung said:
Linkage to the test?
My point is with the next gen consoles, MOST of the games should be able to run in 1080p 60 fps
Lovely Salsa
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FTH said:
He has a good point. Its not like it costs a fortune to make games run in 1080p 60 fps if you have a system for it. Like some people here believe...
The M.O.B said:
Exactly. As of now nothing about WiiU is set in stone, probably not even the hardware, much less launch price, game lineup, general strategy or services included with the console. And somehow some people here are making ridiculous assumptions (I specially like that "middle generation" one) based on what, rumors?. Lovely.
Please stop making assumptions about WiiU hardware capabilities until we know the final specs for sure. Please stop making assumptions about its launch catalog and price until we have more info or a clearer picture of what Nintendo is trying to do with it.
I've had the PS3 since launch (yeah, I paid 600 for it, never ever again) and I'm more than ready for new consoles. In fact I've just bought a new PC for Witcher 2. So when the WiiU launches I'll probably (depending on the price) throw the PS3 away with the Wii and get one instead. I respect all of you who are content with the current consoles, but I want to remind you that not every single one of us is in the same situation.
Barack Lesnar
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Same. This is great news if it ends up being true. 2014 means a better chance at Maxwell and Samaritan-level graphics. 2013 is too soon. The Wii U probably isn't going to be a much of a threat to PS4 and the next Xbox so I'm praying Sony and MS don't launch in 2013 because of it.Chromax said:
Said it better than I could. The PS4 especially I don't think will launch in 2013. They're just starting to get profitable with it.1-D_FTW said:
Palette Swap
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Most current gen games on next gen hardware, sure.Lovely Salsa said:
Games taylored for next gen hardware? They'll probably use that increase in power to push other aspects that are more immediately differentiating.
They've never used a generation gap to make 60 fps a standard so I have no reason to believe they would now.
Do people really want to spend $400+ on next gen systems just for shinier graphics? Have you guys (yes you master race) seen Uncharted 3? Last Guardian? Even last year's Gran Turismo 5? Those all look amazing and show that console gaming can pump out fancy looking graphics. Plus do the hardware companies want to spend God knows what on making these new systems only to have more billion dollar losses during one of the worst recessions ever?
DaSorcerer7
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Heavy said:
key word there is probably. I love how people write off systems before they're even launched.
Diablohead
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few more years, I am fine with that completely. Some games out there are still showing us that there is more which can be done in games to make them look and perform better, basic example is comparing gears 1, 2 and 3 together.
eso76
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Loonz said:
At this point it's more of a disadvantage imho, it will be treated as current gen (getting current gen games) until next gen launches, then it will look very outdated and will fall out of the third party porting loop. Which might not be a concern for Nintendo and its fans, but somehow i don't think Wiiu appeals to casuals as much as Wii did.
dragonelite
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PSFan said:
Fuck im willing to spend 499 for a new gen console.
But only if they can provide 1080p.
Not sure how gt5 is right now but launch performance was really bad what was it 50% tearing or something and drops to 20 fps. Probably fanboy wars exaggerating the facts.
Uncharted 3 have you seen glorious 1080p screen of modded games?
If they can get a 6950 powerlike gpu in next gen consoles and devs can specialize for the it.
Then maybe artist can have more freedom and more power is always better animations in games can go a long way just like physics.
Deadly Cyclone
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Not sure why people are taking developer opinions as if they are stating fact. I doubt MS or Sony will hush the complaints of other developers for new hardware (and consumers) just because of one or two still comfortable with current systems.
AranhaHunter
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I'm ok with this.
I'm fine with this. I have a PS3 for exclusive single-player experiences (e.g., Uncharted, inFamous, Last Guardian) and Xbox 360 for everything else (e.g., Live Arcade, online multi-player, 3rd-party games). 60+ games owned and I still haven't touched Gears of War series, Mass Effect series, Assassin's Creed 2, Tales of Vesperia, Bioshock series, Vanquish, Batman AA, Bayonetta, Red Dead Redemption, GTAIV, etc. Yep, I'm fine with waiting a couple more years.
dragonlife
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Thank you for your all-encompassing input. It must have been hard gazing down upon us from your exalted palace in the skies. You have parted the heavens with your words and have instilled in us true wisdom.kitch9 said:
Please, we beg for more of your knowledge.
EA is already gearing up for next-gen with Moore and all. Criterion working on 'new platforms'. Crytek seems to be working on next-gen stuff as well, Ubisoft boss said he'd like new systems, other devs chipped in and Geoff already taped some bonus rounds on the subject. I'd be surprised if Halo 4 remains an Xbox 360 game. Maybe a cross-platform release like Twilight Princess? In any case 2013 or 2014 is way too late so MS will start the viral late this year or early next year. The upgrade from DX9 to DX11 will be quite something.
2013 or 2014 is fine by me. I'm still enjoying this gen very much. Best gen OF ALL TIME! 
In fact, there could be no more games released until 2013 and I'd still be busy with games already out. Playing through ME2 right now, next up is Mario Galaxy 2, and then RDR. But I do have Gears 3 and Uncharted 3 already paid off.
QFT.
In fact, there could be no more games released until 2013 and I'd still be busy with games already out. Playing through ME2 right now, next up is Mario Galaxy 2, and then RDR. But I do have Gears 3 and Uncharted 3 already paid off.
Fjordson said:
QFT.
Barack Lesnar
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Not a chance (bolded part). And as for Crytek and Ubi starting to work on next-gen projects... well those types of games easily take 2-3+ years to create so 2014 sounds about right.[Nintex] said:
sixteen-bit
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Long gen we got here.