Interfectum
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It also launched with better games, sans Zelda.
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It also launched with better games, sans Zelda.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
It is. Has to be. It's horrendous.
Parapraxis
Member
Right they should really compare it to the current libraries, but let's be real, that's not going to happen.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Why does timing matter when it still has 4x more games and major franchises?
All the more reason to have more third party games readily available I'd say, which is baffling. The PS4 launch was brought up because apparently it "lacked" games, which in fact it did not, there were at least 4 interesting games for mass appeal in that launch, unlike the Switch which, honestly, only has Zelda at launch as a big contender. I'd count Bomberman but it being $60 (not confirmed I think) isn't a good sign.
Netherscourge
Banned
Well, besides the # of games available at launch, the PS4 launched at the same price the Switch is launching at, 3.5 years later.
EDIT - actually, I'm wrong. PS4 launched for $399.
Still, those games!
pretty done
Member
Abysmal lineup, maybe one of the worst launch lineups I've seen in my time. If I were getting one at launch it'd be only Zelda until Holiday season? Nah, I can just wait till Black Friday for a deal or bundle with Mario. CEMU for Zelda and I'm not even missing out on anything.
With how barren the 3DS and Wii U lineups have been the past two years there really is no excuse for this mess. I don't get what Nintendo's dev teams have been doing.
With how barren the 3DS and Wii U lineups have been the past two years there really is no excuse for this mess. I don't get what Nintendo's dev teams have been doing.
Look, it's not amazing, but there are some genuinely good games that launched on PS4. Yes, some were ports of old games, but there was at least a lot of them. Here are some good games.
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Flower
Injustice: Gods Among Us - Ultimate Edition
Killzone Shadow Fall (I maintain that this is excellent)
Need for Speed Rivals
Resogun
Sound Shapes
Trine 2: Complete Story
Warframe
Yeah, certainly not amazing, but a really good Assassin's Creed? BF4? A great NFS game? Resogun?! Those are solid titles.
It's a mediocre launch but the only shining star for Switch is Zelda. That's a heck of a launch title and probably better than any of those PS4 titles but...the rest is pretty awful.
Yea those prices are too high imo. And you have to wait over a month before mario kart comes out.
This is incredibly unfortunate.
If I wasn't a massive Splatoon fan, I'd get Zelda on Wii U and just wait to get a Switch in the fall when there's a better deal.
I guess they're lucky that this Zelda looks amazing and very few people own a Wii U. But woof... if lapsed Nintendo fans do show up and get a Switch for it, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing a lot of used Switches out there mid-to-late this year.
If I wasn't a massive Splatoon fan, I'd get Zelda on Wii U and just wait to get a Switch in the fall when there's a better deal.
I guess they're lucky that this Zelda looks amazing and very few people own a Wii U. But woof... if lapsed Nintendo fans do show up and get a Switch for it, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing a lot of used Switches out there mid-to-late this year.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
It's funny because diehard Wii-U fans would never stop comparing the current Wii-U offerings to the launch PS4/XB1 offerings...
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Yes but they're launching in a world where the PS4 exists with lots of game choices. When the PS4 launched we were starving to get off of last gen which went on way too long. They do have a great release game but it's also available on the WiiU.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
True. I think the lesson is never buy a console at launch.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
That's a terrible launch, wtf is wrong with Nintendo? I mean obviously Zelda will sell TONS but otherwise... wtf?
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Warframe is my favorite game right now. That was a launch title? Damn now that is a great launch lineup.
shhh, watch my hand and clear your mind of all distractions and focus on the joy you now feel
*snap*
schaft0620
Member
Bringing up the PS4's launch lineup doesn't make the Switch launch not shit. The thing is a glorified Zelda box for it's first two months and then a re-release of Mario Kart comes out.
Which context?
I feel Nintendo is dropping the ball here by launching before they have more games ready. That's all I'm saying. It would be completely different if they waited until Mario Kart 8 and ARMS were ready, for instance. Not game changers, but those are very solid releases that would mean at least a handful of excellent launch titles.
Someone suggested that the PS4 lineup was just as bad or worse. I'm saying that it wasn't. That's all.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
If Nintendo fanboys are trying to defend the launch line up by comparing it to the PS4 launch line up then you know it's very bad indeed.
What the fuck have Nintendo been doing all this time?
What the fuck have Nintendo been doing all this time?
Didnt it also had brand new 2 resident evil game for it one at launch one at few months later?
Your response made me laugh out loud.
Atleast the part about vast majority of Switch buyers wanting Zelda is true.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
The amount of mental gymnastics going on in here to discredit the PS4 launch line up to try and justify Nintendo's piss poor showing. Why is the comparison being made in the first place? Sony hadn't spent the last couple of years publishing minimal amounts of software on their previous flagship console. Using this as some kind of 'gotcha' doesn't make the Switch line up any less acceptable, and when Switch doesn't sell anywhere near what the PS4 does, the comparisons are going to look even more ridiculous.
ratcliffja
Member
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Xenoblade 2 and Mario slipped to 2018. Regardless, they're going to face a really uphill battle with the game and accessory prices and lack of must-have exclusive titles for months.
Edit: 3DS had such a horrible launch period that they had to massively drop it in price and offer the ambassador program. With the shortage of 3DS systems and Wii U not selling, they're going to really struggle for a while if they don't have a strong launch.
Bruce Springsteen
Member
Besides Mario, literally nothing that excites me from Nintendo on that list. 2018, with the price drop and release of other titles will be my time get it. Can't trust third party for support
Dark-Cloudz
Member
I have a switch and Zelda pre-ordered, but this might be the first Nintendo console I don't get at launch... Ever.
I mean, remember that horrible Wii-U launch?
Assassins Creed III
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
Ben 10: Omniverse
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Darksiders II
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
FIFA Soccer 13
Sports Connection
Family Party 30
Funky Barn
Game Party Champions
Just Dance 4
Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
New Super Mario Bros. U
Nintendo Land
Rabbids Land
Skylanders Giants
Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed
Tank! Tank! Tank!
Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition
Transformers Prime
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
ZombiU
Well, it's better than the Switch window...
I mean, remember that horrible Wii-U launch?
Assassins Creed III
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
Ben 10: Omniverse
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Darksiders II
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
FIFA Soccer 13
Sports Connection
Family Party 30
Funky Barn
Game Party Champions
Just Dance 4
Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
New Super Mario Bros. U
Nintendo Land
Rabbids Land
Skylanders Giants
Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed
Tank! Tank! Tank!
Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition
Transformers Prime
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
ZombiU
Well, it's better than the Switch window...
:lol people actually defending the launch. If you have wii u theres no reason to get switch. Hopefully they have a shit load of virtual console games ready for launch.
PLEASE help me understand something. You have virtual console games from numerous platforms and can use for an advantage. Why not use that as an initiative to get people on board. Launch the console with some free virtual console games. At the very least there is SOME incentive to buying at launch.
Come on this is simple
Parapraxis
Member
I've enjoyed my WiiU and 1/2 dozen games I have for it that I actually found worth getting, but my PS4 still gets way more game-time and I have about 4x the games for it lol.
Lemmy Caution
Member
Ah yes, IGN has it listed from Hamster Corporation. I've been keeping an eye on their PS4 releases but find the games are priced too high to be worth it.
I already have every just about every arcade comp. on disc from PS2 onwards.
Guys, hold on to your pre-orders. No risk waiting until a week or two before launch and seeing what things look like then. We know there's a Fire Emblem Direct coming next week and I imagine there's one general Direct coming out before launch. On top of that there are things that we don't know much about likely to be explained soon (online, sharing, app integration, etc). They revealed a lot and will be tidying up loose ends and then releasing the rest of info, like they always do. No risk waiting and seeing, cancel pre-order two weeks before release and you shouldn't be charged.
Yup, it had something for everyone with big hitters and small titles too. Sure, it had no Zelda but that is also on the Wii U and not everyone likes Zelda. People comparing the two are delusional honestly.
Plus, PS4 had the promise of more games guaranteed both big ones and small. This party I mean.
N64's North American launch was worse or at least comparably bad. If I remember correctly, it was just Super Mario 64 and Pilotwings. Not a great lineup, but I'm looking forward to Zelda and Super Bomberman R.
Ace Harding
Member
Sorry Nintendo apologists, but this is fucking pathetic. I want a Switch - its a fantastic idea and looks really, really cool. But I'll wait until there are actually games I want to play.
I am not really a huge Zelda guy (I'll play it someday, but not spend $350 to do so) and Mario Kart isn't really doing it for me either.
Anyone comparing this to the PS4 launch lineup is delusional. That wasn't great, but at least there was more than one or two interesting games to play at launch.
How do they benefit from launching this in March? Is it just a financial reporting thing? Why not at least wait until April and have both Mario Kart and Zelda?
I am not really a huge Zelda guy (I'll play it someday, but not spend $350 to do so) and Mario Kart isn't really doing it for me either.
Anyone comparing this to the PS4 launch lineup is delusional. That wasn't great, but at least there was more than one or two interesting games to play at launch.
How do they benefit from launching this in March? Is it just a financial reporting thing? Why not at least wait until April and have both Mario Kart and Zelda?
I was seriously expecting Splatoon, Smash Bros. and Mario Kart to be there at launch, heck even Pokkén as an incentive for people who didn't get a Wii U (basically everyone) so that newcomers could be excited to play them come launch day. Not even that lol, none of those is coming at launch with the Switch, unbelievable. VC titles at launch for special prices would've also helped a lot in softening the blow of the price, accesories, specs and the online fee, but nope, I don't really know what the hell is going on at Nintendo anymore, they're so out of touch.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
That was the best launch lineup of all time. Nothing else was needed or would be played.
I was just going to mention this, the only saving grace could be having a decent virtual console lineup but I have heard nothing.
It really isn't insane and Nintendo don't need to convince anybody. Sony and MS didn't convince anybody and they got the third party support. 3rd parties took risk supporting PS4 early on knowing that PS3 had a rough start and Vita was basically dead on arrival. Nothing is guaranteed. Plus I believe Nintendo are trying their best to convince people to support their system, but they always get rejected.
Nintendo always get rejected because of their image. Third parties see Nintendo as a toymaker instead of a videogame company and Nintendo have been trying to prove otherwise for years, by funding Bayonetta 2, Fatal Frame, Devil's Turd. But that image is stuck on them and there is no way getting rid of it. If you ask a western third party that why their game is not on Switch, they'd all reply same: "We don't think audience is there". They think Nintendo fans are aged between 6 and 9. They are completely wrong, that audience had migrated to smart devices years ago and Nintendo had been catering to nostalgia crowd since then.
There is only one thing Nintendo can do to have third parties attention: Having Switch sell more than Xbox One and become the number two console in short notice. Is it possible? It certainly is. But they need to dish out serious amount of money for moneyhatted projects, plus they have to put out quality first party software more often.
Ok, bad example. But there are lots of others. How about Deus Ex? Or Hitman? Or Witcher 3?
IDontBeatGames
Member
pretty done
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Huh? If Nintendo just had Super Mario 64 HD Remake as the only Switch launch title it would be much better than it is now. Outside of Zelda (which is a multiplat) there's literally fucking nothing.
BuckRobotron
Member
That is a surprisingly minimal list to start, but keeping my eye on the system (for Fire Emblem offerings, anything newer from Capcom, Atlus, etc). I never got either Wii or Wii U but have always been into the Nintendo portables.
CanUKlehead
Member
Very curious to see if there will be Switch versions of AAA third party games announced at E3 this year.
If not, then no one at NCL actually wants third party support.
Nintendo, MAKE ME WANT THIS SYSTEM. Make me consider it over Scorpio or PS4 Pro this year; I'm not made of money, I need to make choices! I'm sorry, but I'll take a console with all third party support over any one, including mighty Nintendo, so decent third party support (or even Gamecube levels) would make me consider spending on Switch over Scorpio/4Pro.
If not, then no one at NCL actually wants third party support.
Nintendo, MAKE ME WANT THIS SYSTEM. Make me consider it over Scorpio or PS4 Pro this year; I'm not made of money, I need to make choices! I'm sorry, but I'll take a console with all third party support over any one, including mighty Nintendo, so decent third party support (or even Gamecube levels) would make me consider spending on Switch over Scorpio/4Pro.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Didn't dev kits go out to third party devs very late/only to a small handful of devs? The reason Sony and Microsoft get such strong 3rd party support is because they literally design their consoles with input from their devs. They bend over backwards to appease the devs for the promise of their support. Nintendo has a looooong history of not giving a damn about 3rd party devs (or actively screwing them over). This has squat to do with devs not liking image. Nintendo never courts devs. Sony and Microsoft do.
And good luck getting Deus Ex, Hitman, and Witcher 3 running on a console running PS3 ports....
Parapraxis
Member
Nah, not really, 3rd parties were super hyped for PS4 and they made up the bulk of PS4's launch line-up. Sony took the right approach with 3rd parties sending Cerny out to actually find out what they wanted and to work together with them. They knew a winner when they saw it. Nintendo doesn't seem to work well with others. I think it's pretty obvious.
re 2nd highlight.... I think you're assessment's are being clouded by something.
jabberwocker
Banned
Well at least it's a little better than the original planned sizzle real below.
Anyhow still preordered one.. I think the system will shine eventually with more games. I'm in.
Anyhow still preordered one.. I think the system will shine eventually with more games. I'm in.