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North Korea claims development of hydrogen bomb for ICBM
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Earthbound64
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"claims"
Yeah...
Yeah...
metalslimer
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It really doesn't matter to be honest. If NK is a nuclear power now how strong their weapons get doesn't change the equation.
djplaeskool
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Brilliant H-bomb technology learned through the illustrious Juche teachings of our dearest Generalissimo.
Evil Monkey DTT
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Hold up, I'm still waiting for that mid August attack that's surely on it's way.
.Detective.
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I am sure they also have multiple bridges they wish to sell.
Earthbound64
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If that's all you took from it, then I'm sorry.
You're kidding, right?
That's right, just keep calling their bluff. All of their past nuclear tests were not bombs either just earthquakes :^)
bootsthecat
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That's not so much the issue; I think we can safely assume they already have launch-able nukes. If they really wanted to launch a nuke strike on SK or a similarly close enemy right now, likely they could (and I say this underestimating the power of the western allies to swat whatever they fire out of the sky like a fly, though)
Kim Jong Un and his inner circle do not want to die, he likes his current impact on the world stage from his hermit nation too much; if he did something similar to what I described above, he surely would.
Dickwaving at its finest, is all this (and all that has proceeded this), is. What he wants is reactions by western powers like what you posit, not actually following through.
A hydrogen bomb? Lol they're years away from having one, esspecially miniaturizing it.
This is nothing but hot air, like every threat NK makes.
WaterAstro
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I actually don't even believe they have nuclear weapons.
So they just fake the earthquakes? Right...
Just_myles
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Man it's like the leadership there has a death wish. I hope they know we have a moron as president who would probably nuke them without a single thought - even if it puts us at risk because: can't make an omlette. Amirite.
innervision961
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Oh come on, getting the schematics and materials from Russia with love isn't exactly developing it yourself.
This changes everything, if true. H bombs are an order of magnitude bigger than "normal" fission nukes. Think a neighbourhood of LA destroyed vs all of LA wiped out completely.
If it's true (I'm doubtful) I don't see how hydrogen ICBMs vs nuclear makes a significant difference.
A city would be fucked either way. The fallout from a conventional nuke would already render a huge portion of a city uninhabitable,
The Hamburglar
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Purfied hydrogen bomb.
The claim is this bomb can be loaded onto an ICBM. If they don't have that capability with their supposed nuclear weapons, then yes it is different.
fluffydelusions
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"claims" just like Trump claims to donate $1 million
Pretty much. They are lying anyway, they have classic small man syndrome.
They've conducted 5 nuclear tests and their missile technology has also improved with each test launch they have performed. What part of this story is so impossible to believe? At some point the claim will be true.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Exactly.
At some point a move needs to be made. Continuing to say "they're not serious" is just becoming monumentally stupid as NK presses forward developing their nuclear program and escalating their threats.
Insane Metal
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Lol.
8-Bit Sunset
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WaterAstro
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They got all their slaves to start breaking shit underground at the same time.
Define "a move". Because it sounds like you're advocating a preventative strike which would result in hundreds of thousands to millions of deaths. Attacking NK is a terrible idea even if they just have plain old nuclear weapons.
What do you suggest? We should be millions at risk because they say so. Until they actually do something that's not a risk worth taking.
That's a whole lot of words you just put in my mouth.
I don't know, and I never suggested I do know. But standing back going "tsk tsk he's bluffing" as they develop nuclear weapons and fire missiles over Japan is just becoming increasingly worrisome, because we seem to be reaching the point where countless lives could be at risk either way.
Please correct me then. People get coy with language in NK threads all the time.
8-Bit Sunset
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Video from the 50's showing a Russian hydrogen bomb test.
Scary AF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dUIq8gHgc
Scary AF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dUIq8gHgc
Because this discussion always becomes "well, should we do anything?" I think some people feel the ned to roll their eyes at every claim NK makes to signal to others they are not in favor of a nuclear first strike or whatever.
You can acknowledge that NK has the ability to keep advancing their technology without it meaning "attack now!"
You can acknowledge that NK has the ability to keep advancing their technology without it meaning "attack now!"
You still haven't answered the question, what is your "move"?
Are people forgetting they fired a rocket over Japan? We know nothing of their capabilities because they act out so irrationally. We can not predict their movements.
WaterAstro
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It will all depend on China to do something preemptively.
I certainly think "waiting for them to develop better weapons" is a move that's eventually going to stop being viable.
Poor GRIMES
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Being seen as irrational is very much a rational plan.
JordanN
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If North Korea ever fired a nuke, they're as good as dead.
South Korea is still several light years ahead of them in economy and military. On top of having the full backing of the United States.
The threat of North Korea reminds me of Cuba or other communist countries. They're too insignificant for anyone to pay attention to them in a real war. They'll continue to postur and beg for money, meanwhile, they're still this 3rd world country that can barely afford its own electricity.
South Korea is still several light years ahead of them in economy and military. On top of having the full backing of the United States.
The threat of North Korea reminds me of Cuba or other communist countries. They're too insignificant for anyone to pay attention to them in a real war. They'll continue to postur and beg for money, meanwhile, they're still this 3rd world country that can barely afford its own electricity.
UltraMagnanimous
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Almost as disturbing as Twin Peaks episode 8.
Shooting a missile over Japan was just a show of force. They know that if they did try and hit Japan they'd see a retaliation they couldn't fight against.
I keep hearing this... yet they have miniaturized nukes and ICBMs that people swore they couldn't have.
They still did it. This whole schtick of "haha North Korea don't have nukes they can't even muster a fart" is getting old as North Korea progresses their arms race further. Sticking our heads in the sand is just going to hurt us in the long run. What action needs to be taken I don't know, I'm not a military personnel with that kind of knowledge but it's gotta happen sooner or later.
I don't recall anyone credible saying they'd never have them.
Unless countries like China stop trading with them than nothing is going to happen. The US and a lot of it's allies have already sanctioned them to hell and back, there isn't much else you can do without starting a war.
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