Guerrillas in the Mist
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Don't be too concerned, PC gaming has been "dead" for years and apparently PC gamers never got the memo. The bastards even have the cheek to increase in numbers.
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Nvidia: Golden Days of Consoles Are Over, So Many Other Ways To Enjoy Games
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Don't be too concerned, PC gaming has been "dead" for years and apparently PC gamers never got the memo. The bastards even have the cheek to increase in numbers.
prag16
Banned
I came in here thinking, "I guarantee salt gets mentioned within the first five posts."
One damn post.
Anyway, they're not wrong. Sure they're downplaying consoles a bit more than they should, but there really is a whole world out there.
Consoles are still relevant, but they're not the sole end all be all anymore, like they were in the 90s and into the 2000s. AAA gaming would not entirely die with consoles. But if it did... that's also not entirely a bad thing, to see AAA *as we know it today* lose some traction.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
This is the polar opposite of the Nvidia Q3 results thread.
I went in this thread to ctrl+f for "salt".
Wouldn't have needed the search functionality. Where are all of you whenever NV reports their profits?
Damerman
Member
uhhh, not exactly. "gimped" closed system is a double edged sword. For one its a constant stream of cash flow for the manufacturers who don't really have to make expensive revisions to the hardware on a frequent basis. The plug and play aspect is quicker than ever with access to a lot more versatility that we see on PCs like an OS, multimedia content and digital downloads. Then there is the fact of ubiquity of consistent hardware. PC development has always been argued to be more difficult than console development, and there is a reason for that.
The perks that consoles offer and will offer make them a staple in the entertainment industry. I appreciate what sony and nintendo are doing with their first party studios in order to push the medium to the stratosphere(i can't include MS because they haven't really done much)... and i believe this will be the most important aspect for years to come if they continue to invest in their studios.
A general rule of thumb in nVidia threads is that anybody who accuses nVidia of being salty is probably salty as hell because of what nVidia have said.
JesseSpeedMan
Neo Member
I mistakenly bought a PS4 for Destiny. That turned out terribly so now it is a $400 dust collector. There is just no reason for me to play on consoles nowadays
Seriously though I built my first PC (played on Alienware/Dells before that) last June and it was my best gaming decision ever.
until Bloodborne comes out.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
You nailed it. Nvidia is really angry about that.
duessano
Member
Even the fattest Robber Baron wants more and more so yeah thanks for confirming what I already know.
RandyBobandy
Banned
Nvidia must be salty at their profits too I'd imagine
Ugh what the hell is this.. Yup traditional games don't exist on PC LOL
Noble Neckbeard
Banned
Haha Nvidia's comments about stuff like this are always priceless.
Damerman
Member
this makes no sense. I hardly think Nvidia wanted to contract with the console manufactures if they could not offer them the right amount of money for premium product. Look at the result... ps4 and Xbone CPU's are causing issues for developers and the GPU's really aren't that strong. You get what you pay for. if a negotiation doesn't work out between two businesses, you move on.
DarkJedi24
Member
That's kind of like saying Playstation is doing shit according to Sony's recent losses though.
The insecurities threads like these bring out is nothing short of amazing. Not surprisingly you seem to care a lot about the "AAA" industry. Do you not see the problems with its current state? That aside, as the "AAA" continues to chase the mainstream because it's heavily reliant on them for profits the less I'm personally interested in the ever more shallow products that are released.
prag16
Banned
Thats Human, they are feelin bad
Their financial reports likely indicate otherwise.
No, not at all. The vast majority of NV's recent revenue surge is based on PC products.
Yeah, I'm really salty. Wait what? If you hadn't noticed, everything is going my way
Oppo
Member
He's right of course, but I do think his comment sort of overlooks the content aspect of the big console biz, i.e. Sony and MS and Nintendo are the source of a lot of things that play on these fancy GPUs.
that said I really don't think this comment should elicit a bigger reaction than your standard-issue "oh, you".
that said I really don't think this comment should elicit a bigger reaction than your standard-issue "oh, you".
Yeah, I'm really salty. Wait what? If you hadn't noticed, everything is going my way
well, that's they way it's used here, since nvidia is doing good.
People talking about NVIDIA being salty must have not seen the topic posted recently about their Q3 results. Seriously, consoles don't even bring money to the table for Sony or MS. You have investors screaming at them to pull out and just focus on digital platform network and software sales.
Why would NVIDIA sweat a lowball contract when they have the automotive industry, universities, research institute, mobile, workstation fabricators, aerospace, military... You know stuff that actually brings in sweet looking contracts.
Also people talking about NVIDIA being salty about turning down a lowball offer. Look at AMDs stock right now. That shit sure isn't helping them out with their sudden plunge down to 2.79 a share.
Why would NVIDIA sweat a lowball contract when they have the automotive industry, universities, research institute, mobile, workstation fabricators, aerospace, military... You know stuff that actually brings in sweet looking contracts.
Also people talking about NVIDIA being salty about turning down a lowball offer. Look at AMDs stock right now. That shit sure isn't helping them out with their sudden plunge down to 2.79 a share.
Don't change the context. To this point, only one person made that comment
MisterCrow
Member
I love NVidia and I love PC gaming (been PC gaming since the DOS days) but I've been enjoying the hell out of the PS4. This includes all the non-traditional, non-AAA games on consoles (Minecraft, Spelunky, etc.) I couldn't disagree more. I'm not naive enough to claim to know where the industry is headed, but there seem to be plenty of sales numbers which support the idea that people aren't done playing games on a TV with a controller. Right now, that controller talks to a console, not a general PC. Who knows what it will be like in the future.
LiquidNarwhal
Banned
A lot of this post is correct, but saying sony isn't making money on the PS4 right now is an outrageous claim.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
They may be very profitable but they're still salty about console gaming. They probably predicted this generation to fail miserably.
It brings in a profit, but compare to the software and network side of the gaming business which brings in 43 TIMES more profit than hardware sales, investors want them to not pour money into another console R&D.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=928813
I'm sure they are crying all the way to the bank.
BrokenSymmetry
Member
Then why is Nvidia providing the GPU for a consolized PC, the amazingly small Alienware Alpha?
I will buy one at launch
jackissocool
Member
Except investors only care about short term profits so their ideas are terrible, and Sony's hardware is the base for their other profits. Network, software, and hardware are not isolated. Hardware is what allows the other two to make lots of money.
This is true theres no other plattform then consoles where traditional AAA games can earn enough money.
Then why is Nvidia providing the GPU for a consolized PC, the amazingly small Alienware Alpha?
I will buy one at launch
Because it's still a PC and a open platform, unlike the more "traditional" consoles. Like they said, it's just another way to enjoy games.
I might get one too!
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Sony makes money on licensing fees and their PS Plus service.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Then why is Nvidia providing the GPU for a consolized PC, the amazingly small Alienware Alpha?
An overpriced PC with a GPU that can't even be upgraded. Might as well buy a console.
martino
Member
this is assuming market will dispar if console do .
So misleading and without correlation.
both of which... got their start on pc
and minecraft was wildly successful before it even got a console releaseall this would mean is companies would have to start budgeting appropiately and not using 10 different studios to develop one game like a certain game coming out tomorrow is, i can only imagine how inefficient development was on it as well because there is no way that development pipeline is efficient, thus leading to inefficient use of the budget as well
That is true, but Sony really doesn't break up where they get their majority of software and networking money from. They do have PC ventures that are very successful, but they don't break that up in their earnings. They do it to try and make things look more healthy for their hardware than it really is hoping to shut investors up.
And SoE on PC.
captmcblack
Member
I never remember consoles being unambiguously the best way to play/enjoy games either...but then again, I've been playing games on both consoles and PCs since the 80s/90s, so I never saw it that way to begin with.
The AAA business model is definitely shifting away from the consoles being the primary kingmaker for IPs in the mainstream, though. Big-bucks IP can come from PCs and mobile just as frequently now...
The AAA business model is definitely shifting away from the consoles being the primary kingmaker for IPs in the mainstream, though. Big-bucks IP can come from PCs and mobile just as frequently now...
outunderthestars
Banned
I have to agree. I never thought I'd see the day where I would own a gaming PC and no consoles, but that is exactly where I am at now.
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