Saint Gregory
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I don't get this either, infact several times it's lead to publishers getting my money twice when I doubled dipped on the domestic release.I don't really understand this. I mean, they get our money either way.
I don't get this either, infact several times it's lead to publishers getting my money twice when I doubled dipped on the domestic release.I don't really understand this. I mean, they get our money either way.
I think everyone is getting a bit carried away here, I mean cancel your pre-order? No way.
I'm not bothered but I think others should wait and see rather than trust an iffy translation. Only two weeks to wait.
How does it affect that though? Unless you and your brother really care to keep trophies separate or something
I don't even have separate PSN accounts on my PS3 for family members. We all just play whatever games we want on the main one
I think everyone is getting a bit carried away here, I mean cancel your pre-order? No way.
I'm not bothered but I think others should wait and see rather than trust an iffy translation. Only two weeks to wait.
That's child abuse dude, getting them in an inverted V lock should be more than enough to get the message across.
Sorry, it was a martial arts joke (and clearly a bad one)time to read some manuals. never heard of the V lock.
Is not independent. There is no way of avoiding direct filesystem access if you have a easily editable memory card where you can simply dump a hack from the PC.
How does it affect that though? Unless you and your brother really care to keep trophies separate or something
I'm still confused why digital content won't work on accounts that aren't tied to it.
Whereas Nintendo's 3DS stumbles have felt mostly like short-sightedness or ignorance Sony's have all felt like efforts to wring extra profitability out of the Vita.
If I hadn't already canceled my preorder I would be.
This is where I can stay safely away from hyperbole because I never pre-order game hardware! I wasn't planning on getting a PSV at launch and I still don't have a 3DS; now I can just wait them both out until shame and lost profits force both companies to unshit them a little.
I don't know but you could see at the TGS conference the first install needed just 2-3 minutes, if you have already an account.
Wrong on all accounts. The old way, you kept the content and switched the account to be able to play them. Not a big hassle.
This time, it sounds like you have format the system (delete everything) then use the new account. In simple terms, you have to re-add the games and DLC every time you want to play. Seeing as how I'm not next to wifi 24/7 (and that would take a while to download) or near my PS3 every second, this is extremely anti consumer and kills the hopes for many who wanted to use digital content with different accounts. I am going to import games but this sucks for my backlog of digital content I wanted to use (easily) with my Vita.
"Person A tazed me in the genitals, so person B should be forgiven for tazing me only in the face!" is a lousy argument. The 3DS has (rightfully) gotten relentless criticism for its particular design flaws. Sony should be taking those as an opportunity to do a better job instead of as an excuse to pull their own bullshit.
Sure there is, this is exactly what encryption was invented for.
Although, again, Nintendo is doing just fine so far on the 3DS letting people use SD cards and just making sure their operating system is secure.
Someone explain this tome...?
Wouldn't all games be stored on the memory cards along w/ save files?
Wouldn't you just have to take the memory card out?
If you plugged the memory card back in w/ a different PSN account on your games wouldn't show up?
Someone explain this tome...?
Wouldn't all games be stored on the memory cards along w/ save files?
Wouldn't you just have to take the memory card out?
If you plugged the memory card back in w/ a different PSN account on your games wouldn't show up?
Someone explain this tome...?
Wouldn't all games be stored on the memory cards along w/ save files?
Wouldn't you just have to take the memory card out?
If you plugged the memory card back in w/ a different PSN account on your games wouldn't show up?
Is software region free? thats all I care about
I don't know but you could see at the TGS conference the first install needed just 2-3 minutes, if you have already an account.
You know, I've been pretty harshly critical about the memory stick issue, the battery life, and choosing ATT as the 3G provider.
But this single account thing is just a non-issue to me. A handheld is a personal device. You suggest Sony should do a better job, but look what we're actually talking about here. Vita is reaching and arguably surpassing feature parity with Xbox Live with no subscription. Vita is a current-gen console in your hand at $250. Nintendo launched a system that struggles to produce PSP-level experiences at $250.
So keep a little perspective, is all I'm saying.
Not surprising, at least the games on the cards are regionfree and that's more important to me.
I wasn't using hyperbole.
But this single account thing is just a non-issue to me. A handheld is a personal device.
BTW, about the 3G provider, at least in Spain is not exclusive. The "default" 3G provider is Vodafone, but you're still able to put 3G cards of any company.
It's a personal device, and I have two personal accounts. I buy things from NA and JP PSN on a regular basis, and being able to do this has become extremely important to me over the time that I've owned a PSP and a PS3. I've bought some content on PSN expressly because I want to be able to use it on the Vita, on BOTH of my accounts, and I want to be able to play JP and NA Vita content in the future.
This "lol personal device/one account I don't get ittt" stuff is just willful ignorance of use cases other than your own.
The 3G thing is way less of a waste-of-money feature in Europe than the US, definitely.
It's a personal device, and I have two personal accounts. I buy things from NA and JP PSN on a regular basis, and being able to do this has become extremely important to me over the time that I've owned a PSP and a PS3. I've bought some content on PSN expressly because I want to be able to use it on the Vita, on BOTH of my accounts, and I want to be able to play JP and NA Vita content in the future.
This "lol personal device/one account I don't get ittt" stuff is just willful ignorance of use cases other than your own.
What about DLC?
Is there any other gaming network which even allows you to download content outside your region?
Vita is a current-gen console in your hand at $250. Nintendo launched a system that struggles to produce PSP-level experiences at $250.
So keep a little perspective, is all I'm saying.
It doesn't matter as much with the PS3 because it has multiple user accounts, but I don't really see why Sony wouldn't want people buying more games to play for their system. Are there legal aspects I'm missing? How is it different really from region-free discs on the PS3?
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So does that mean a different account can play content on your Vita? Their content or your content?
Someone with good Japanese would be helpful there. If it was the latter it would be an improvement.
Just get two 119 dollars memory cards! It's that easy!
Sony needs to take some queues from Apple... it's unfortunate seeing them hang on to some of these outdated policies.
Just get two 119 dollars memory cards! It's that easy!
Letting people play games from multiple regions enables price arbitrage: if your local regional branch likes to point and laugh at you over their outrageous markup (cough Australia cough), unfettered access to online markets lets you buy digitally from whichever storefront gives you the best post-currency-conversion price and thereby makes Sony as a whole less money. This is why companies region-lock in the first place.
Sony seems to have (wisely, IMO) realized starting with PSP that the transactional costs of importing (finding a place to buy overseas, getting a payment method, paying extra for shipping, waiting forever for it to arrive, etc.) make this sort of arbitrage unappealing to the vast majority of consumers for physical products, but I personally suspect that it's still too much work for most consumers to do this digitally unless the pricing is really just completely outrageous.
Sony needs to take some queues from Apple... it's unfortunate seeing them hang on to some of these outdated policies.
Sony needs to take some queues from Apple... it's unfortunate seeing them hang on to some of these outdated policies.
Miscrosoft and Sony are pretty much equivalent in terms of digital region lock on consoles. (That is, one account per region and jump through hoops to access the stores, but it's possible)Doh. Yeah I completely missed different pricing models/exchange rates. Does Microsoft not have this problem with region-specific stores as well? Or do they totally just lock you out of them totally?
What? Last I checked the appstore was completely region locked. (As is the Android marketplace for that matter)Sony needs to take some queues from Apple... it's unfortunate seeing them hang on to some of these outdated policies.
The only hoop is to create an account for the other region.Miscrosoft and Sony are pretty much equivalent in terms of digital region lock on consoles. (That is, one account per region and jump through hoops to access the stores, but it's possible)