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[JordanN]

Let's keep it to 12 hours a day people. The electricity cost of you working yourselves to death is really eating into our quarterly profits.

Doesn't Japan have one of the longest lifespans in the world? They would be working to death while living the longest.

Schrodinger's worker.

 

[Amalthea]

I'm afraid to ask the normal working hours of Panasonic employees.

Wife: "Welcome home honey, look how much your son has grown into a man!"

Panasonic employee: "I have a son?"

 

[Calm waterfall]

A 12 hour day after the reduction of hours? Panasonic does not understand what efficiency means. Should have told worker to go home at 4 pm instead of 8 pm. I wonder about the well being of people in this kind of over work culture, and its effect on efficiency.

 

[Slayer-33]

This is torture holy shit, cancel everything

This is some inhumane shit

 

[DirtyManos]

*But you have to check in to work at 9pm.

 

[Piichan]

Good, would be nice if this caught on. Had three days this week where I worked until around 10:30PM ugh.

 

[Oibignose]

Working like that is my idea of hell. How many of these poor souls at Panasonic really even need to be in the office at all. Let your staff work from home two days a week and they will probably be as productive and not suicidal by 10am Tuesday morning.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Working like that is my idea of hell. How many of these poor souls at Panasonic really even need to be in the office at all. Let your staff work from home two days a week and they will probably be as productive and not suicidal by 10am Tuesday morning.

From what I heard from a japanese friend, you dont really work at all. You pretend to work after your time (because you are already finished with your work) and kinda sit there till the boss goes home.

 

[Dio]

From what I heard from a japanese friend, you dont really work at all. You pretend to work after your time (because you are already finished with your work) and kinda sit there till the boss goes home.

This. It's culturally unacceptable to go home before your boss goes home, from what I know. Then, you're obligated to accept if your boss invites everyone out to go drinking with him, so that's you getting home even later.

 

[woolley]

Doing 50 hour weeks have been killing me. I don't even know how you could do more, by the end of the day I'm so mentally exhausted I'm barely getting any actual work done. Living to work seems like a horrible way to live.

 

[Dio]

Doing 50 hour weeks have been killing me. I don't even know how you could do more, by the end of the day I'm so mentally exhausted I'm barely getting any actual work done. Living to work seems like a horrible way to live.

Depends on what kind of job you've got.

I worked 150 hours over the space of two weeks in January this year.

 

[SporeCrawler]

8 pm is already ridiculously long hours for regular employees

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Doing 50 hour weeks have been killing me. I don't even know how you could do more, by the end of the day I'm so mentally exhausted I'm barely getting any actual work done. Living to work seems like a horrible way to live.

Early on in my career when I was still in the gaming industry, it got to the point during crunch time where 60 hour weeks were easy - we still got to have weekends off! It got tougher once we were in the 80-90+ hour range during the final push through cert/submission and the release date. That was easier for me to handle back then because I still in my early to mid 20s and didn't have a family, house, and a bunch of other stuff to worry about. I don't think I can keep that sort of schedule up these days with all the other stuff I have to do now.

 

[Glix]

Work schedule like the manga guy is lunacy and unhealthy but at least he is working and creating.

The other stuff about employees having to stay until the boss goes home or having to stay because other employees are staying and will look better than you even if you do better work is horrifying. There is literally no need for it. I cannot imagine how frustrating it is.

 

[Into the Light]

The us is not far behind, our hours expectations are ridiculous.

 

[ianpm31]

We should follow countries like Denmark and Netherlands and embrace the 4-day work week because it improves efficiency. The 40-hour work week is outdated.

 

[Glix]

The us is not far behind, our hours expectations are ridiculous.

Im not so sure of that. Im aware some jobs want crazy hours but a large percentage of the people I know work 40-50 hours a week.

 

[JordanN]

The us is not far behind, our hours expectations are ridiculous.

Just wait for when automation kicks off and job competition grows intense.

A Mcdonalds job asks you to work 12 hour shifts, or you get replaced by a robot.

 

[jelly]

8pm....8pm!

That's awful.

 

[jstripes]

Staying past 8pm? That's a whole lot of faxing.

 

[Knuckle Sandwich]

8 pm?

8 pm?

How do you have a life if you're working till 8 pm? That's fucking ridiculous. Tell them to leave by 5. Shit.

 

[pillowtalk]

Baby fucking steps. 20 OT hours sucks but anything over 40 OT hours is hell.

 

[Roberto Larcos]

Why are workers' unions in Japan so weak?

 

[McHuj]

I can't imagine it's actually productive work. More like being at work to be see as working. Same thing happens in the US as well.

 

[the1npc]

We should follow countries like Denmark and Netherlands and embrace the 4-day work week because it improves efficiency. The 40-hour work week is outdated.

Maybe if you have an office space like job.
Im in landscaping working 50h weeks its not bad at all. 7-5:30 with saturday optional.
If I worked 4h a day id be broke af.

 

[TickleMeElbow]

From what I heard from a japanese friend, you dont really work at all. You pretend to work after your time (because you are already finished with your work) and kinda sit there till the boss goes home.

Yeah my mom who's Japanese used to work at a big company, and she said by 4 pm there wasn't shit to do, so everyone would just act like they're working.

Or businessmen would go to meetings with partner companies, and the meeting would be over in an hour so they would spend another hour or two lollygagging around the city before returning. It's funny because I remember going to book stores in Japan, and there would be a shitload of salarymen just standing around reading manga and shit lol.

 

[Zombie James]

Fucking hell. I would never, ever work in Japan.

 

[Dingens]

Some of my work colleagues dont leave until 10pm and they get to work at 730am. Luckily as a foreigner Im not expected to work such hours.

It has probably less to do with your status as a foreigner and more with your contract - which probably isn't a "real contract", or rather what most japanese would consider a "real contract"
This ofc is just a guess based on my own experiences

 

[Bananajama]

I wouldn't last a week out there. I stay late once a blue moon. Rest of the time I'm outta that door like a flash

 

[Into the Light]

My efficiency falls off dramatically after 9 hours.

 

[Akuun]

That's a step in the right direction, I guess.

I hope workers don't have to go out for mandatory drinks afterwards or some shit.