Beerman462
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Why would sony first party games have cross play?
They wouldn't, because they don't exist on other platforms. That was kind of the point. Is this an attempted gotcha that ignores the rest of the post Ninja?
Why would sony first party games have cross play?
They wouldn't, because they don't exist on other platforms. Is this an attempted gotcha that ignores the rest of the post Ninja?
So what's the point of having any discussions on a forum? Close shop. Let's all go home.End of the day, people vote with their wallet. It doesn't really matter what people on a message board type. It's how people choose to spend their money that sends a message to companies.
I don't disagree. I don't think they can really come up with any reason at all that would satisfy most people.
Not really, just a nitpick. I mostly agree with your post. If they don't want to give up a perceived "advantage", get why Sony is doing it, but I think they are being overly cautious. I don't think opening up the ability to have cross play will have the detrimental effect on their business they might think it would. Outside of how it's being used in minecraft, it seems like it would be something that most players wouldn't even take note of. I would bet a lot of people who played Rocket League on PS4, for example, had no idea they were playing with PC players.
At the same time, this is what makes it hard to explain to your average user why they should care about this issue, and really put Sony's feet to the fire over it.
So what's the point of having any discussions on a forum? Close shop. Let's all go home.
"I've already covered that with my previous statements but what I really want to talk about is all the great things we are doing for our XBox players. With the Xbox One X, they will be able to...."He was asked a question, he answered. I don't see the issue.
Thats desperation to pretend that the post isnt a lie.perfect first post
It's true that without the help of media coverage that it will continue to be ignored. GAF has shown in the past that with enough discussion and backlash, a flicker can turn into an inferno. I believe this is an issue that needs flaming. Developers want it. A majority of gamers want it. Why not show overwhelming support? This really benefits everyone in the online multiplayer community.We've had multiple topics on this issue for the entire year. It's always the same thing.
What ever happened to that petition or campaign that someone was trying to organize? Did it just fizzle out and die?
That was basically the most I saw someone trying to do something about it that wasn't just attacking others who don't go along with the echo chamber.
Certain members accused the OP, without any basis at all, of being a Microsoft fanboy out to damage Sony's reputation. It became a console war shitshow.We've had multiple topics on this issue for the entire year. It's always the same thing.
What ever happened to that petition or campaign that someone was trying to organize? Did it just fizzle out and die?
That was basically the most I saw someone trying to do something about it that wasn't just attacking others who don't go along with the echo chamber.
I can understand why Sony doesn't allow cross play, however they should be honest about it and have an official stance about this matter.
Wait...what? That quote. At this point, Sonys' loss is your gain. You guys do understand that, right?Strictly speaking from their business perspective, no Sony shouldn't. This is lose lose situation for them. If they come out and say why they don't want to do it now, they take the PR hit now and in future if they then want to do it for whatever reason. Their stance should be to ignore it and if asked questions in interviews just say "we are looking into it", and for the love of god keep Jim Ryan away from it all (or at least train him or something).
Whatever stink there is now, it will be much worse if they make an official statement.
Wait...what? That quote. At this point, Sonys' loss is your gain. You guys do understand that, right?
Strictly speaking from [Sony's] business perspective...
Whats next? People want sony to release Horizon on the Switch?
Is this real life?whenever Phill opens his mouth about this issue just screams like he is riling up his base like Trump does.
I've been this guy. Don't be like this guy. Sony will sell consoles on their exclusive 1st party efforts. They are in no danger of anything besides being known as anti-consumer. Is that what you want?lol this guy is so dishonest i am surprised gaffers keep falling for his shtick. if he was in the lead, he wouldnt allow it either. This is literally his only hope to keep more x1 owners from jumping ship. half of them have already ditched him. lets not forget Sony allowed cross platform play last gen with Portal and a couple other games on PC.
MS made half a billion from XBL for nearly a decade before Sony got wise and started their own scam. Now Sony is making a billion a year from subs because people who want to play with their friends HAVE to buy that $60 a year service. it's a scam, sure. but it's a scam Phill ran last gen, the gen before last gen, and exploited to hell and back by forcing CoD players into the ecosystem by timed DLC exclusives. Back then he didnt offer free games every month either.
And dont give me the shit about him not being incharge back then. he was one of the top guys there and never spoke out about stuff like this. i dont trust this guy at all.
the bottom line is that this is how you sell consoles in 2017. you need exclusives sure. but everything is around online gaming and if you tell consumers they can stick with their x1 and play with your friends on PS4 they ARE SIMPLY NOT GOING TO BUY A PS4. i dont usually care about business decisions but this is literally the most basic business decision of it all. Whats next? People want sony to release Horizon on the Switch?
All this bitching and moaning i see whenever Phill opens his mouth about this issue just screams like he is riling up his base like Trump does. he knows what hes asking for is ridiculous but he also knows his base will eat it up, the media will talk about evil Sony, and gaf will fall for it because they just want pro consumer moves from this evil complacent Sony corporation that boldly decided to allow used games, allow offline gaming, built a powerful, cheaper and games focused console just this gen. Not to mention the fact that they have released exclusive after exclusive and funded numerous Japanese games to fruition unlike some other guy i know who cancelled more games than he has released so far this gen.
But sure, Sony is evil because they want to sell consoles. What a terrible anti-consumer company!
Wait...what? That quote. At this point, Sonys' loss is your gain. You guys do understand that, right?
'From a business perspective'? Nah, I got the message. Fuck their business perspective. I'm a consumer, not a share holder. You?Did you miss opening part of that post?
This is what their strategy should be on this issue. If you want my personal perspective then I have always been okay with grilling Sony on this issue. Go through my post history.
Lol. "I'm a loser, baby. So why don't you hate me."Hey, dont lump us all in together like that, you can own your own losses.
'From a business perspective'? Nah, I got the message. Fuck their business perspective. I'm a consumer, not a share holder. You?
Who the hell would defend Sony in this situation? It boggles the mind. I can't see a downside to Sony allowing crossplay, I really don't understand their perspective at all. I feel it has to happen at some point in the future, even Nintendo's being more forward thinking in this department. Not a good look.
Lol Jesus. Some of you act like people are criticizing your mothers.lol this guy is so dishonest i am surprised gaffers keep falling for his shtick. if he was in the lead, he wouldnt allow it either. This is literally his only hope to keep more x1 owners from jumping ship. half of them have already ditched him. lets not forget Sony allowed cross platform play last gen with Portal and a couple other games on PC.
MS made half a billion from XBL for nearly a decade before Sony got wise and started their own scam. Now Sony is making a billion a year from subs because people who want to play with their friends HAVE to buy that $60 a year service. it's a scam, sure. but it's a scam Phill ran last gen, the gen before last gen, and exploited to hell and back by forcing CoD players into the ecosystem by timed DLC exclusives. Back then he didnt offer free games every month either.
And dont give me the shit about him not being incharge back then. he was one of the top guys there and never spoke out about stuff like this. i dont trust this guy at all.
the bottom line is that this is how you sell consoles in 2017. you need exclusives sure. but everything is around online gaming and if you tell consumers they can stick with their x1 and play with your friends on PS4 they ARE SIMPLY NOT GOING TO BUY A PS4. i dont usually care about business decisions but this is literally the most basic business decision of it all. Whats next? People want sony to release Horizon on the Switch?
All this bitching and moaning i see whenever Phill opens his mouth about this issue just screams like he is riling up his base like Trump does. he knows what hes asking for is ridiculous but he also knows his base will eat it up, the media will talk about evil Sony, and gaf will fall for it because they just want pro consumer moves from this evil complacent Sony corporation that boldly decided to allow used games, allow offline gaming, built a powerful, cheaper and games focused console just this gen. Not to mention the fact that they have released exclusive after exclusive and funded numerous Japanese games to fruition unlike some other guy i know who cancelled more games than he has released so far this gen.
But sure, Sony is evil because they want to sell consoles. What a terrible anti-consumer company!
I obviously want cross-play. I also remember a few situations last gen when Microsoft was in the lead where they wouldn't hear about cross play. If I were in charge at Sony, I'd throw up a middle finger to.
On the flip side
Sony's network was full of holes and got shut down so that they could put some band aids on it....unfortunately it's still shit as they can't implement simple feature like a name change....have a refund function or have a party chat that does not publicly expose your ip address ...I think the issue is more that Sony's online infrastructure is not up to scratch to manage it....and that's before we get into the atrocious download speeds and anti consumer support functions
lol this guy is so dishonest i am surprised gaffers keep falling for his shtick. if he was in the lead, he wouldnt allow it either. This is literally his only hope to keep more x1 owners from jumping ship. half of them have already ditched him. lets not forget Sony allowed cross platform play last gen with Portal and a couple other games on PC.
MS made half a billion from XBL for nearly a decade before Sony got wise and started their own scam. Now Sony is making a billion a year from subs because people who want to play with their friends HAVE to buy that $60 a year service. it's a scam, sure. but it's a scam Phill ran last gen, the gen before last gen, and exploited to hell and back by forcing CoD players into the ecosystem by timed DLC exclusives. Back then he didnt offer free games every month either.
And dont give me the shit about him not being incharge back then. he was one of the top guys there and never spoke out about stuff like this. i dont trust this guy at all.
the bottom line is that this is how you sell consoles in 2017. you need exclusives sure. but everything is around online gaming and if you tell consumers they can stick with their x1 and play with your friends on PS4 they ARE SIMPLY NOT GOING TO BUY A PS4. i dont usually care about business decisions but this is literally the most basic business decision of it all. Whats next? People want sony to release Horizon on the Switch?
All this bitching and moaning i see whenever Phill opens his mouth about this issue just screams like he is riling up his base like Trump does. he knows what hes asking for is ridiculous but he also knows his base will eat it up, the media will talk about evil Sony, and gaf will fall for it because they just want pro consumer moves from this evil complacent Sony corporation that boldly decided to allow used games, allow offline gaming, built a powerful, cheaper and games focused console just this gen. Not to mention the fact that they have released exclusive after exclusive and funded numerous Japanese games to fruition unlike some other guy i know who cancelled more games than he has released so far this gen.
But sure, Sony is evil because they want to sell consoles. What a terrible anti-consumer company!
I mean, that's all true, PSN is inferior to XBL.
But that doesn't change the truth of the current reality, that Sony have no reason to change their business model.
Because as much of a vocal minority wants this feature, a vast majority of their own userbase doesn't care about it and are not even aware of any talk about such a thing being possible, to the point where Sony doesn't even have to consider it outside of radio silence.
I honestly don't get why people keep defending Sony because of "business" reasons. As a consumer, we should only care about what makes our experience the best and I think that having cross-play fits into making my experience better.