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Lol they were on some the end of the world is nigh shit tonight. Very oppressive tone to the whole episode
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President Obama: FULL INTERVIEW | Real Time with Bill Maher
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Lol they were on some the end of the world is nigh shit tonight. Very oppressive tone to the whole episode
People are generally good. Look for the good in them and you will find it.
Hahaha, what's wrong with asking what's on his mind? It may not seem serious to you but it is to Bill. Lol
all I'm finding is bottlecaps tbh
Audioboxer
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Best president is best. Obama <3
I believe most if not all of their non-scripted shows get uploaded the next day. I learned this trying to watch Oliver two weeks ago live on now/go.
One of the better Obama interviews I've seen, but one thing that drove me crazy was near the beginning when Maher mentioned healthcare as one of the things that should not be for profit. Uhh Bill, what do you think Obamacare is? it is the only national healthcare mandate plan in the world that runs on for profit coverage (that is, the mandated healthcare plans are for profit, in every other country that uses the mandate plan, only the supplemental plans are for profit)
I don't know, it just bugged me that he said that as if him and Obama are in agreement on this.
I don't know, it just bugged me that he said that as if him and Obama are in agreement on this.
shadowsdarknes
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As much as I can enjoy Bill Maher and his show, he's clearly no where near as thoughtful or intelligent as Obama. I think Bill was looking for POTUS to agree with him on a lot of things and Obama had his own take on things that introduced nuance and sophistication that Bill was not prepared to hear.
brianmcdoogle
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I was hoping when "food purity" was brought up, President Obama would have added vaccines to "following the science" on GMOs since some of Maher's audience, and maybe himself, are looney on them as well.
Rentahamster
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Good interview
Knuckle Sandwich
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I mean he's just a comic. Can't really fault him for not being as smart Obama. I think he did fine and I'm glad he didn't make an ass of himself.
Well, I think that's the bare minimum.
I do think Maher has... issues. He's very passionate about the things pertinent to him and tends to sort of get really confused or dismissive of issues outside of his personal bubble, and some of his views are definitely problematic.
He's kind of like Michael Moore in many respects. I respect him when he's right and on a topic that he can sound off on, but he can also wildly miss the point and not see the forest from the trees.
Obama is very articulate at bringing up the nuance and ambiguity of many hot-button issues, that it's not just black and white but needs a more reasonable, moderate approach to problem-solving. I liked how he wasn't afraid to challenge him on some stances, such as antibiotics and science fallacies.
Little Green Yoda
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When Maher (or his supporters) are bringing up the issue of antibiotics in farm animals, are they concerned more about the effect on people directly via consumption moreso than the development of antibiotic resistance?
I believe he's concerned most that antibiotics and vaccine development have altered the development of the immune system leading to a rise in allergic diseases such as asthma. He thinks they work, but also thinks there's a cost and it's not entirely worth it.
My limited understanding of his views at least.
Morrigan Stark
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Solid interview. Man Obama is just way too smart, feels like you won't have another president like that for a long time. Clinton is smart too, but not nearly as charismatic.
I didn't hate Obama's answer exactly and I'm glad he gave a shout-out to non-believers, but I kind of rolled my eyes when he said "you're doing pretty well with your show". I wish Maher had answered with, "well, you've done pretty well for yourself being elected prez, does this mean racism is over?". It's ridiculous that in this day and age, being an open non-believer is automatic career suicide for anyone running for office in the US, and that atheists are considered the least trustworthy minority. Maher is also absolutely right that less religiosity correlates with better understanding of science, though of course there are exceptions (not the least which is Maher himself who has some pretty goofy anti-science beliefs, ironically enough).
Is he still anti-vax or has he recanted on that? I remember him flirting with alt-med nonsense at some point too. Maher wants to brag about how atheists are better at understanding science, well, he needs to put up on that front 'cause he's a disappointing example.
They were in agreement that a for-profit healthcare system is not the ideal solution, but that Obamacare was the only realistic solution he could have passed as legislation at this point. It sucks, but that's the reality. Hopefully president Clinton can pass some better reform and introduce single-payer (I can dream...).
Rentahamster
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Is he still anti-vax or has he recanted on that? I remember him flirting with alt-med nonsense at some point too. Maher wants to brag about how atheists are better at understanding science, well, he needs to put up on that front 'cause he's a disappointing example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7yvI0tu3Ho
Morrigan Stark
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OK so not quite anti-vax, but still spouting fearmongering, ignorant BS. :\
I want to slap him and some of his panelists, ugh.
brianmcdoogle
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I mean, outside of saying "I am anti-vax" or "vaccines cause autism", how much more stupid shit could he say about them, or GMOs, or other stupid medical bullshit he believes under the guise of false concerns and "asking questions"? That's why I will still refer to him as anti-vax, and because he gives a platform to anti-vax people through the panels and interviews he's done over the years.
And I love the irony that after a lot of anti-science nonsense in that segment, he only freaks out when religion gets involved.
I've been watching and enjoying his show for almost 20 years, but he says stupid stuff and is a complete dolt on some issues. Also, that video is actually a softer view of his stance from over the years.
Rentahamster
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brianmcdoogle
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Thank you for doing the research for me!
I think there was also an... RFK jr interview that got pretty nutty? I forget if it was him or someone else.
Rentahamster
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Pretty sure RFK jr was on Real Time at least once.
brianmcdoogle
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but Obama has in the past repeatedly defended the for profit plan, he even stated during the 2012 presidential debates that he doesn't believe there's a problem in the insurance companies making a profit off of his healthcare plan. Well yes, there is a problem when you are mandating people to buy said plan. The result is we spend more for our healthcare per capita than any other country in the world, and overall our national healthcare plan ranks about 40th best in the world
Why is the most expensive plan the one that is considered the most realistic? oh that's right, because people make excuses for it, and insist its the best we can do.
and we don't even have to pass single payer to make an improvement, there are many countries with universal coverage who operate on the insurance mandate plan, but the way it works is the mandated coverage plans are non-profit. That means if an insurance company ends up making additional revenue, that revenue goes into covering more people. Thus you cover more people at a more efficient cost.. but no, our national healthcare is the only mandate plan in the world that allows insurance companies to profit off of the very plans that citizens are mandated into buying. It's bullshit
Also, I wouldn't count on Hillary being the one to push for single payer, during the 2008 election it was Obama who pushed for the public option, and Hillary who pushed for the insurance mandate plan. Furthermore, since she stepped down as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton has made more than $21 MILLION giving speeches, including $3.5 MILLION she was paid from the health insurance companies themselves
If anything I would expect her to increase their profits, but hopefully I'm wrong
Epsilon-delta
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It was a good interview by Obama but he lost me on that answer.
Spiral Insanity
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So strange. Thanks for the heads-up, great episode.
Autumn Wind
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Well worth watching. You look at all the other shows President Obama has been on and they are silly mostly except for maybe Jon Stewart.
Ninja Scooter
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Good interview. Too bad Bill spent the rest of the show bed wetting.
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