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Prey's debut sales in the UK seem quite low
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Stone Ocean
Member
It's not. I'm around 7 hours in and most of the time I'm going through wide open areas with some mazes around.
Reviews are already out
I would imagine the only place it has a chance of doing well is on PC right now. They definitely screwed up showing off the game correctly, and the demo didn't seem to help either considering thr input lag issues on PS4. It's unfortunate because it is GotY material without a doubt.
The Cartographer
Member
The hell is a immersive simulator?
I thought Prey 2/reboot was a first person shooter.
I thought Prey 2/reboot was a first person shooter.
phant0m
Member
Yep, shame. It's a damn good game too.
You couldn't be more wrong. Unless you consider Deus Ex, Sys/BioShock and Half-Life to be boring corridor shooters.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
For an average gaming audience "immersive sim" doesn't easily describe a game.
No idea where the whole zero marketing statements are coming from. Prey was all over the internet with ads running constantly on places like YouTube and IGN, had a constant flow of trailers and gameplay videos, was at nearly every PAX and industry event in the past 8 or so months, and even had a proper demo which is rare these days. I've even seen some commercials. It pains me to say it but maybe games like this just don't sell very well (though I hear the demo was pretty meh).
As far as the whole name and Prey 2 controversies go, nobody knows or cares about those aside from a few thousand nerds on the internet. I don't mean this in a condescending way, it's just enthusiast crowds online tend to overrate their importance.
As far as the whole name and Prey 2 controversies go, nobody knows or cares about those aside from a few thousand nerds on the internet. I don't mean this in a condescending way, it's just enthusiast crowds online tend to overrate their importance.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Just went to two sites I'd normally read and I see reviews in progress, so not exactly.
Eurogamer don't have anything yet.
Peroroncino
Member
Can't say I'm surprised, game had no steam marketing-wise and demo imo was pretty bad.
matrix-cat
Member
Game is absolutely brilliant, from the twelve or so hours I've played so far. I honestly never expected too much from it, but it's a legit System Shock successor and a fantastic immersive sim.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
"Immersive Sim" makes me think of something like Everything or Harvest Moon. This game doesn't give me the impression that it is like Everything/Harvest Moon.
The perfect Dark
Banned
You're asking the wrong question.
What are these good publishers that would allocate a decent budget for a great reviewing immersive sim and not advertise it at all?
Only Bethesda probably.
JehutyRunner
Banned
I've seen it going for £35 somewhere, but limited stock. If I remember where it was, I'd bring it up. I saw it this morning on Twitter anyway.
Rexatality
Member
https://www.giantbomb.com/immersive-sim/3015-5700/
This gives an overview what immersive sims are. Long story short, they're primarily first person games that gives players a lot of options in how to solve an objective.
thekiddfran
Member
No Marketing and no early review copies sent out.
That's why.
The game was sent out to die.
That's why.
The game was sent out to die.
An open-ended FPS/RPG hybrid with certain properties. You are seeing the world from the eyes of the player character most of the time with very little interruption for external camera cutscenes, almost every game object is bound by the same believable rules (like ragdoll physics), and you deal with problems instead of rigid puzzles where you can have multiple solutions.
Without Bethesda the game would not even exist. There would have been nothing to advertise.
Its been all over the tv the last couple of weeks
I've seen it on Twitch a lot, but it never mentioned the release date which I found pretty weird.
There really could.
As a gamer I know when games are being released - you can't help but know when the OT and review thread are on GAF
But just through general reading too.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
It is a splendid homage to Looking Glass studios work. Then again it's its own respectable IP. Having a science fiction game told in space with zero gravity is such a pallet cleanser.
Well, that is at least what I believe. Is System Shock 3 going to sell more? Who knows. My guess is that a handful of gamers get the draw of what it is and others it doesn't matter. Maybe there's not enough hand AAA in there or they aren't seeing what made games like this so great in the first place.
Well, that is at least what I believe. Is System Shock 3 going to sell more? Who knows. My guess is that a handful of gamers get the draw of what it is and others it doesn't matter. Maybe there's not enough hand AAA in there or they aren't seeing what made games like this so great in the first place.
Same here, there's enough great games out right now that I didn't get it day one before any reviews were published.
Now that it has reviewed well and GAF seems to like it, I ordered a copy this morning and even saved some money compared to getting it day one.
It really doesn't seem like they put much thought and effort into advertising this, and I'm genuinely wondering why? They pump millions into a game like this and it honestly feel like the publisher is in a meeting, bored, not giving a shit, being like "yeah yeah you can do the game*yawn*". I can't imagine the people funding this being in their meeting rooms, excited and intensely discussing how to proceed with the game, putting in effort and thought. This is nonsensical but it almost seems like they're like "Yeah the game is gonna bomb and who cares, we can just say that it proves that we should move on from singleplayer games into more mp/service type games".
It almost feels like I could have taken my buddy and generated more hype for the game if we did it as a full time job. That too is a stupid thing to say because marketing is hard but I'm an enthusiast and even I could barely feel the presence of the game leading up to it's launch.
It almost feels like I could have taken my buddy and generated more hype for the game if we did it as a full time job. That too is a stupid thing to say because marketing is hard but I'm an enthusiast and even I could barely feel the presence of the game leading up to it's launch.
Obliterator
Member
I feel really bad for Arkane. They are putting out really high quality single player narrative AAA games and both this and D2 underperformed.
It's a damn shame and I can't help but worry for the studio
It's a damn shame and I can't help but worry for the studio
The perfect Dark
Banned
It's Arkane. One of the best current gaming studios. I'm pretty sure it would exist, just not called "Prey".
30yearsofhurt
Member
Exactly. Reviews are free publicity and hype. Costs next to nothing.
Serves Bethesda right.
AcademicSaucer
Member
This
Interesting. What kind of timeframe are we talking about? Is it expected sales for the first month?
SteamSpy also shows geographical stats. If we are talking about owners, then 8.2% are from the UK. Although it's worth to mention that Galyonkin (the man behind the service) has said that the data is not very reliable with recently released games. It's best to wait few more days to have more accurate information.
I had no idea the game was out. I kinda rely on review threads to help educate me on games. That policy may have hurt Bethesda here.
Jesus I just went to Metacritic and realised I had heard nothing about this game. I thought it was some kind of first person monster hunter game or something. How could a major publisher fail to get their message through like that to an enthusiast like me? I've always been up to speed on every previous Bethesda game.
And the shame is, having read about it, it actually sounds like something I'd really like.
Jesus I just went to Metacritic and realised I had heard nothing about this game. I thought it was some kind of first person monster hunter game or something. How could a major publisher fail to get their message through like that to an enthusiast like me? I've always been up to speed on every previous Bethesda game.
And the shame is, having read about it, it actually sounds like something I'd really like.
Arkane are too small to make a AAA game without external funding. It wouldn't exist.
SunBroDave
Member
What a shame, the game really is fan-fucking-tastic. It's easily the #1 or #2 best game I've played all year, and I'm one of those lunatics who somehow found the time to play everything from Zelda, Horizon, Nier and Nioh, to Night in the Woods, Edith Finch and Snake Pass.
Basileus777
Member
It's a label for games using design principles inspired by old Looking Glass Studios games. I don't really understand why it's being used a genre label so much lately far more than it ever was in the past. I guess someone popularized the term fairly recently.
It doesn't really do so for many people.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
After the disappointing sales of Dishonored 2 I doubt this game would have existed without the name "Prey". You gotta keep in mind, Bethesda was probably looking at any opportunity to use that name to reboot the IP after the whole fiasco with Prey 2.
Basileus777
Member
Being a good gaming studio doesn't mean that anyone will want to fund your high budget niche game. Ask Obsidian about how hard it is to secure funding as an independent studio.
Dishonored 2 came out late last year, well after this game was in development.
The Praiseworthy
Member
........... So f**king depressed over this news -_-
The game is freaking GOOD... like serouisly the game is really really good, but of course with their stupid marketing plans for the game they can only blame themselves.
So what... now we won't get Dishonored 3 and Prey 2?
Arkane are the best FPS makers IMO and they don't deserves low sales as this for their games
The game is freaking GOOD... like serouisly the game is really really good, but of course with their stupid marketing plans for the game they can only blame themselves.
So what... now we won't get Dishonored 3 and Prey 2?
Arkane are the best FPS makers IMO and they don't deserves low sales as this for their games
Papo Swing
Member
Other than the marketing, is the early review copies issue really that big?
Dishonored 2 and this game seem to be great AAA games that are not getting enough attention because of marketing or hate because of the early review issue,. but why? They are good games and the faulty speaks for itself.
Makes me think for all the crap we speak, in the end it is just crap, as a game whose quality speaks for itself is getting neglected again.
Dishonored 2 and this game seem to be great AAA games that are not getting enough attention because of marketing or hate because of the early review issue,. but why? They are good games and the faulty speaks for itself.
Makes me think for all the crap we speak, in the end it is just crap, as a game whose quality speaks for itself is getting neglected again.
Bloodporne
Member
It's a shame a good company like Arkane has to be the guinea pig for Bethesda's idiotic policies and marketing strategies.
At the end of the day, the game itself will be blamed for weak sales and nothing else.
At the end of the day, the game itself will be blamed for weak sales and nothing else.
Stilton Disco
Member
You can't keep telling people they're not allowed to know whether a product is any good before it's available to buy and still expect the same level of excitement and enthusiasm to buy games sight unseen.
They've been training their audience to wait until after launch to buy their titles, and as much as I'm glad to see people actually learning and not still preordering with no guarantee of quality, when budgets are built on expectations of day one sales and the idiotic hype machine, they're just fucking themselves over with this refusal to let any influencers get to truly express the quality that these titles posses.
They've been training their audience to wait until after launch to buy their titles, and as much as I'm glad to see people actually learning and not still preordering with no guarantee of quality, when budgets are built on expectations of day one sales and the idiotic hype machine, they're just fucking themselves over with this refusal to let any influencers get to truly express the quality that these titles posses.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
The most baffling thing about Bethesda's review policy is that all of thier games have been getting good reviews, doom/dishonored 2/prey/etc. there was no reason to do this. They should have at least waited for a game that wasnt shaping up before implementing this policy.
I know thier plan was "we didnt give out doom review copies and that game was great, so theres no reason to question any of our games" but they're only hurting themselves, prey looks like it really needed early review scores to generate excitement for the game.
This is a case where the suits are out thinking themselves.
I know thier plan was "we didnt give out doom review copies and that game was great, so theres no reason to question any of our games" but they're only hurting themselves, prey looks like it really needed early review scores to generate excitement for the game.
This is a case where the suits are out thinking themselves.