Rocco Schiavone
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Phil is not amused
You kinda know its over when you don't have a summer games showcase planned.They did.. they went stealth third party and started to close studios. Xbox as people knew it is over. Lets wait for Microsoft Gaming plans.
Absolutely.PS5 Digital completely destroyed the Series 2 SKU strategy.
allofthem.gifHow many threads do we need?
Which leads one to wonder what you think about the console brand who's new Gamertag is Coffin2024.Yeah 29% is pretty bad.
Neo?That is fucking nuts. Xbox Series is doing worse than the One. Holy shit.
kings and queenNo clue what went wrong with this braintrust at the helm
Game pass and day one games.There is no reason to buy an xbox. Not a single reason. I can't believe they sold any at all last quarter.
They are basically selling with the same split as PS4/XBO
This is where I am. It's much more than just those libraries. People simply don't want an Xbox and the true, game changing downturn began in 2013. It never recovered to those 360 levels (be it mindshare, marketshare, or otherwise), despite the early years where Xbox One was competitive with the PS4 in North America.This is the true fallout of the xbox one. Nothing was "turned around" and when it came time to choose their next console, well, people aren't stupid. The loyalty to those digital libraries is greatly exaggerated.
“More PC game ported loading sales? Oh no, have we tried to fix it by porting more games to PC sooner? Whaaat? Consoles sales fell more? How is it possible? We have tried almost everything… we could try to make our games PC exclusive, that has to help console sales!”Yup, Xbox consoles have fallen through the floor.
Sony also doesn't see the ps5 outselling the ps4. I think we will see it slip and fall further behind here on out. That is why they mentioned that they are focusing on player time and retaining players across other platforms.
More PC stuff incoming with psn logins
There is no 6:1 gap. Launch align it is not particularly different from PS4/XBO split. PS5 gained some in USA but by and large, launch aligned the difference is not big. Xbox is around 30m while PS5 is around 60m.No, they are at 6:1 gap now going forward and the generation isn’t halfway done yet.
It’s going to be a bloodbath. The series consoles will be lucky to get over 40M sold
There is no 6:1 gap. Launch align it is not particularly different from PS4/XBO split. PS5 gained some in USA but by and large, launch aligned the difference is not big.
Launch align it is not particularly different from PS4/XBO split.
Just given everything that has transpired in the past 4 months, what does a "next-gen" Xbox even look like in 2026? Every 3rd party developer will still be developing for PS5 and/or Switch 2 until 2030. I don't see any world where Microsoft releases exclusive "Next Gen" games to such a small ecosystem, especially when millions of Gamepass subscribers will still be on Series S/X. Not to mention, Microsoft would have to abandon their multi-platform strategy. In my mind, there is no way that the next console won't be incredibly niche. It will only cater to gamers that want to keep their Xbox libraryThere is from where we are today
The 2:1 gap last gen was throughout all of it
So, it won’t be 6:1 overall, but it will likely be 3.5 : 1 when all is said and done
Xbox will be lucky to get 40M for series consoles. PS5 will probably settle around 120-140
So what? Unless you somehow want to exclude Xbox Series S from calculation it does not change anything - would anything change if Microsoft only had Xbox Series X? Who knows?Except, of course, for the fact that Microsoft launched a budget console at the same time, a fact you ignore or dismiss.
So it is not 6:1? Cool. By and large, I expect Xbox get somewhere close to Xbox One but maybe 10m console less, with PS5 stopping at around 100m maybe. After all Switch 2 will have a proper third party support now. With big GaaS games being there - Fortnite, Minecraft, COD this time - including potentially GTA Online in the future - Switch 2 will affect the market as Switch 1 did not benefit much from third parties the last gen.There is from where we are today
The 2:1 gap last gen was throughout all of it
So, it won’t be 6:1 overall, but it will likely be 3.5 : 1 when all is said and done
Xbox will be lucky to get 40M for series consoles. PS5 will probably settle around 120-140
They were on fire in 2020-21 I had to pay a premium to get another for a gift in 2021.Remember when the Wii was ON FIRE in 2008/9 and then in 2010 it just flatlined? This is like that except the Series consoles were never on fire.
Remember when the Wii was ON FIRE in 2008/9 and then in 2010 it just flatlined? This is like that except the Series consoles were never on fire.
... makes you think, isn't?
By and large, I expect Xbox get somewhere close to Xbox One but maybe 10m console less, with PS5 stopping at around 100m maybe.
How are you arriving at this conclusion?Sony also doesn't see the ps5 outselling the ps4. I think we will see it slip and fall further behind here on out. That is why they mentioned that they are focusing on player time and retaining players across other platforms.
More PC stuff incoming with psn logins
How are you arriving at this conclusion?
You realize there was no GTA entry in the PS4 gen right? or that the PS5 has yet to see a price drop and is still on pace with the PS4 which has had a 25% price drop by this time in its cycle.
By the time GTA is released, the XS series would be all but dead. And its not coming to PC for at least.... however long. Can you imagine what that game would do for a $299 PS5 next year?
There is nothing going on now or that is to come, that would suggest what you are saying is even remotely the case.
I think at one point they thought about this before realising MS Gamepass branding might be worse than xbox. They've made the xbox brand the studios and gamepass hence the "every screen is an xbox", xbox the console is in the gutter though. I think they will shift the brand heavily towards mobile.Xbox is dead, I wouldn't be surprised if MS actually ended up retiring the branding and just either going with Microsoft Gaming or putting everything under the Activision brand.
Notice how quiet Phil has been for...I feel like nearly a year.This is why Satya came in and ended Phil's parade. These numbers are absolutely catastrophic and explain why MS has basically given up on Xbox and why they are shutting down studios left and right and porting everything to PS5/Switch. The party is over and this is probably the last console we will see from MS. Next hardware won't be a traditional console for sure. Phil fucked up too many times and now it's really over for traditional Xbox consoles.
Satya to Phil behind closed doors....Notice how quiet Phil has been for...I feel like nearly a year.
Satya has been putting hands on that boy behind closed doors.
I humored my wife and got a Series X back in 2021 for her, I don't regret it per se, all of her 360 games are BC and she has played a fair amount of 3rd party games on it.
But no way am I even consdering getting the next Xbox, if there even is one.
is funny because is trueSatya to Phil behind closed doors....