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[DemonCleaner]

Middle Earth: Shadow of War - Benchmarks:

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10...amm-mittelerde-schatten-des-krieges-3840-2160

 

[Slick Butter]

Finally ordered a Vega 64 because NewEgg's eBay store has them for $557 again. Didn't end up waiting for the LC because they're up to $800 (damn!) and i want to have a GPU again.

 

[dr_rus]

http://www.hardware.fr/news/15267/rx-vega-custom-arlesienne.html

No custom Vega cards in October or even November according to this report.

 

[Slick Butter]

http://www.hardware.fr/news/15267/rx-vega-custom-arlesienne.html

No custom Vega cards in October or even November according to this report.

Well, I guess it's good that I decided to buy "on sale" now rather than wait more. Still, that sucks. Delayed again!? Are they waiting on proper drivers or what?

 

[LelouchZero]

http://www.hardware.fr/news/15267/rx-vega-custom-arlesienne.html

No custom Vega cards in October or even November according to this report.

Smh this can't be right, how does a GPU be out for 2+ months without custom cards on sale? What's causing this issue?

 

[Rushersauce]

http://www.hardware.fr/news/15267/rx-vega-custom-arlesienne.html

No custom Vega cards in October or even November according to this report.

Vega is truly, the new r600.

 

[Slick Butter]

Damn, FedEx lost my Vega. Jerks.

EDIT: Found it! Now when is someone gonna release an aftermarket open-air cooler...

 

[DemonCleaner]

vega 56 is available now in germany for 400 Euro VAT included in various online stores

e.g.

https://www.vibuonline.de/product_i...a-56-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1189368.html

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_...a-56-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1189368.html



about time

 

[b0uncyfr0]

Were there ever oc'd comparisons between the 56 and 1070?

 

[icecold1983]

Were there ever oc'd comparisons between the 56 and 1070?

56 still wins decisively

 

[DemonCleaner]

so i installed the the alphacool eiswolf 240 closed loop water cooler on my vega 56 today.

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/-neu...ool-eiswolf-240-gpx-pro-amd-rx-vega-m01-black

the process of getting this thing on was a bit unnerving for a watercooling newbie and took me like 5 hours or so till running, but the results are pretty awesome.

am doing some benchmarking right now. seems to be getting to the higher factory overclocked 1080 territory in firestrike right now while beeing dead silent.

all in all i think you'll have a hard time finding a more potent watercooled GPU for that "cheap".

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Were there ever oc'd comparisons between the 56 and 1070?

Dunno but the 56 absolutely trounces the 1070 in Wolfenstein 2 when running at 100% load.

Game is due an Nvidia patch but I still expect the 56 to be ahead.

 

[DemonCleaner]

gathered lots of data. will take some time to make that presentable. little sneak peak:

im running the 64 liquid cooled bios on the 56 now. timespy was stable. in firestrike the card wanted to clock to 1.800 Mhz on stock settings... lol. crashed obviously. so i had to downlock it manualy.

 

[DemonCleaner]

vega 56 is available now in germany for 400 Euro VAT included in various online stores

e.g.

https://www.vibuonline.de/product_i...a-56-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1189368.html

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_...a-56-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1189368.html



about time

but you can still buy vega 64 for 499 €

https://www.vibuonline.de/product_i...a-64-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1186781.html

 

[llien]

Raja Koduri leaves AMD.
https://hexus.net/tech/news/graphic...a-koduri-radeon-technologies-boss-leaves-amd/

No replacement so far, Lisa Su will oversee RTG.

 

[RoboFu]

so i installed the the alphacool eiswolf 240 closed loop water cooler on my vega 56 today.

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/-neu...ool-eiswolf-240-gpx-pro-amd-rx-vega-m01-black

the process of getting this thing on was a bit unnerving for a watercooling newbie and took me like 5 hours or so till running, but the results are pretty awesome.

am doing some benchmarking right now. seems to be getting to the higher factory overclocked 1080 territory in firestrike right now while beeing dead silent.

all in all i think you'll have a hard time finding a more potent watercooled GPU for that "cheap".

Dude yes i got the same thing the other day. It’s the best purchase to compliment my Vega 64. The fan on the stock models got so loud.

 

[Leonidas]

Glad to see the prices down. Saw a Vega 64 for under MSRP recently, hoping the same happens to Vega 56, or at least a game bundle or something considering the cards have been out for a few months.

Raja Koduri leaves AMD.
https://hexus.net/tech/news/graphic...a-koduri-radeon-technologies-boss-leaves-amd/

No replacement so far, Lisa Su will oversee RTG.

He was hired by Intel. I wonder what this means for RTG going forward.
http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-b...-to-work-on-integrated-and-discrete-graphics/

 

[llien]

He was hired by Intel. I wonder what this means for RTG going forward.
http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-b...-to-work-on-integrated-and-discrete-graphics/

I believe he was effectively fired first, then hired at Intel, not vice versa. (just based on the timeline of events)

Raja, on the other hand, knows a lot about AMD and GPU design in general, so it's a good buy for Intel.

Overall, I'm still glad he left, Polaris was ok-ish, Vega, despite Vega 56 being quite competitive, is meh as a product for AMD. (much more expensive to manufacture than 1070)

 

[joesiv]

I believe he was effectively fired first, then hired at Intel, not vice versa. (just based on the timeline of events)

What series of events? What I see is that RTG has been working with Intel for some time given the announcement of the semi-custom deal. It's possible that intel has been courting him for a while.

Given AMD's "investment" into RTG, it didn't really set Raja up for success, it'd be obvious for anyone to see that from the outside (compared to Nvidias development resources). In terms of vision, and forward looking architecture, especially in compute, Vega is quite good actually.

For all those saying AMD should fire Raja, I'm very interested what Raja can do with an actual budget behind him at Intel.

As a bonus, he might actually have a regular 80hr work week at Intel, with a much bigger salary, lol. Good on you Raja!

 

[dr_rus]

In terms of vision, and forward looking architecture, especially in compute, Vega is quite good actually.

I've heard this several times now. Could you give me an example of improvements in compute which Vega brought compared to, say, GCN3?

 

[llien]

What series of events? What I see is that RTG has been working with Intel for some time given the announcement of the semi-custom deal. It's possible that intel has been courting him for a while.

Raja Koduri is taking a 3 months break from AMD followed underwhelming Vega launch (which was preceded by a series of embarrassing presentations)

Given AMD's "investment" into RTG, it didn't really set Raja up for success, it'd be obvious for anyone to see that from the outside (compared to Nvidias development resources).

This argument can be played in AMD vs anything, pretty much. Intel's R&D > AMD's total revenue.

In terms of vision, and forward looking architecture, especially in compute, Vega is quite good actually.

I'd ask for citations.
Vega 56 is a competitive product from consumer point of view (it has good perf/$ on its own, plus no hidden adaptive sync tax), but it's a flop for еру company: a huge die with expensive memory.

For all those saying AMD should fire Raja, I'm very interested what Raja can do with an actual budget behind him at Intel.

I don't expect miracles, but long term, given that AMD manages to recover on both fronts, it could become too dangerous with GPU + CPU synergy.

Buying nvidia (100 billion mcap doesn't feel reasonable to me, when I compare it to Intel) was not an option, I guess, so they'll build their own Luna park, with blackjack and hookers.

 

[Jigolo]

Someone local to me is selling their gaming PC for $999 ($1000) with these specs

- Ryzen 7 1800X with wraith cooler
- Sapphire RX Vega 64 Liquid cooled
- 16GB Corsair 3000mhz DDR4
- 500GB SSD Samsung 960 m.2
- 850 Watt gold rated psu with RGB
- MSI B350 Gaming Pro mobo
- In Win 301 black / red edition
- Windows 10 Pro Activated

Here's a picture

My question is this deal good?

 

[Seronei]

Someone local to me is selling their gaming PC for $999 ($1000) with these specs

- Ryzen 7 1800X with wraith cooler
- Sapphire RX Vega 64 Liquid cooled
- 16GB Corsair 3000mhz DDR4
- 500GB SSD Samsung 960 m.2
- 850 Watt gold rated psu with RGB
- MSI B350 Gaming Pro mobo
- In Win 301 black / red edition
- Windows 10 Pro Activated

Here's a picture

My question is this deal good?

It would be closer to $1500 new. Doesn't seem like a bad deal.

 

[ColdDeckEd]

Someone local to me is selling their gaming PC for $999 ($1000) with these specs

- Ryzen 7 1800X with wraith cooler
- Sapphire RX Vega 64 Liquid cooled
- 16GB Corsair 3000mhz DDR4
- 500GB SSD Samsung 960 m.2
- 850 Watt gold rated psu with RGB
- MSI B350 Gaming Pro mobo
- In Win 301 black / red edition
- Windows 10 Pro Activated

Here's a picture

My question is this deal good?

Its a pretty good deal though you might want to change the motherboard, seems kind of low end compared to all the other stuff.

 

[Jigolo]

It would be closer to $1500 new. Doesn't seem like a bad deal.

Its a pretty good deal though you might want to change the motherboard, seems kind of low end compared to all the other stuff.

Thanks

 

[joesiv]

Raja Koduri is taking a 3 months break from AMD followed underwhelming Vega launch (which was preceded by a series of embarrassing presentations)

Apparently Raja has been talking about moving to Intel since 2016.
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility

My new take on it is, Raja wanted to move to Intel last year, Lisa probably told him to finish Vega before moving on. Vega got finished, he took a sabbatical, probably previously agreed on by the two of them, then moved on.

 

[icecold1983]

Someone local to me is selling their gaming PC for $999 ($1000) with these specs

- Ryzen 7 1800X with wraith cooler
- Sapphire RX Vega 64 Liquid cooled
- 16GB Corsair 3000mhz DDR4
- 500GB SSD Samsung 960 m.2
- 850 Watt gold rated psu with RGB
- MSI B350 Gaming Pro mobo
- In Win 301 black / red edition
- Windows 10 Pro Activated

Here's a picture

My question is this deal good?

Good deal if everything is in good condition. Buying used tho you never k ow how much out of spec/improper use the components have been out through

 

[thelastword]

Someone local to me is selling their gaming PC for $999 ($1000) with these specs

- Ryzen 7 1800X with wraith cooler
- Sapphire RX Vega 64 Liquid cooled
- 16GB Corsair 3000mhz DDR4
- 500GB SSD Samsung 960 m.2
- 850 Watt gold rated psu with RGB
- MSI B350 Gaming Pro mobo
- In Win 301 black / red edition
- Windows 10 Pro Activated

Here's a picture

My question is this deal good?

Nice deal, I would just change the mobo to a x370 and would prefer 3200Mhz or 3600Mhz Ram, but that's a spendid deal....primarily because a Vega 64 LC costs $700.00 all on it's own.....Hell, if you add $400 for the 1800x, that's already $1100.00

Also, does this PC have a regular HDD as well?

 

[llien]

Apparently Raja has been talking about moving to Intel since 2016.
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility

That's an interesting piece of information.

 

[DemonCleaner]

an x370 MB doesn't gain you any performance. so it would be a total waste of money to change to that. OC options of the MSI B350 boards are more than sufficient.