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Red Letter Media |OT| of Movies, Murderers, and Pizza Rolls

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firehawk12

Subete no aware
If this is Eloise Cole, Jeez:

Eloise was abandoned by her birth parents and adopted into a fascinating but dysfunctional family. She grew up with multiple challenges that tested her ability to survive, both physically and emotionally.

In 1975, Eloise married a young widower named Elwood Cole who had four teenage children. Two of the four, Mark and Dan, had a life threatening neuromuscular disease and were quadriplegic. This new family of six pulled together and became a tight family unit.

Mark, the oldest, managed to live off campus while studying at the local University when he suddenly suffered a cardiac arrest and died. While Mark was very ill, he had been considered the healthiest of the two boys and his death was not expected at that time.

A few months prior to Mark's death, Eloise's father had died. Twenty days following Mark's death, Eloise's mother collapsed and died from an undiagnosed aneurysm. Around the same time, the family dog also died and the roof blew off the house.

From her experience of living through so many tragedies and at the same time knowing that Dan, who was particularly fragile, could die anytime, Eloise composed the poem "Borrowed Hope".

At the time, Eloise was supporting others as a grief counsellor. Her son Dan lived five more years and managed to graduate from the local University.

Eloise became nationally known for her work as a Bereavement Specialist. In the summer of 2005, she was diagnosed with lung cancer and battled with strength and grace for four short months until her death in December 2005. She would often say that although her body had cancer, her spirit did not.
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Freeza Under The Shower

Member
in before "I now have a raging hard-on for Rich Evans". Thanks, denim.

I have no idea why they put another dog / cat video up there though. We know those are terrible by now, right?

also: that quote above.. :(
 
Xux

Xux

Member
That was pretty morose. I could probably get behind their retiring of the Wheel.

Also pretty baffled at all the Jack hate everywhere.
 
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Weeman0313

Neo Member
I haven't seen Mike's girlfriend in an episode in awhile, are they not together anymore or does she just not want to do the show? She had really good points about the movies and was funny as hell.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
Weeman0313 said:
I haven't seen Mike's girlfriend in an episode in awhile, are they not together anymore or does she just not want to do the show? She had really good points about the movies and was funny as hell.
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She's dating Tim Heidecker.

no one knows, she probably has her own life going on.

Xux said:
That was pretty morose. I could probably get behind their retiring of the Wheel.

Also pretty baffled at all the Jack hate everywhere.
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The concept is pretty much done, given how this episode basically showed that they probably watch all of the videos and then write the actual "spins" around them.
 
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DrForester

Kills Photobucket
I hate that they take stuff off the wheel before watching it. There were two or three episodes joking about that "Farm Safety Family Style" video, and now it's gone. Or that "Laugh: Just for the Health of It".


Rich almost killed Colin with the phone call.
 
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BassForever

Member
DrForester said:
I hate that they take stuff off the wheel before watching it. There were two or three episodes joking about that "Farm Safety Family Style" video, and now it's gone. Or that "Laugh: Just for the Health of It".


Rich almost killed Colin with the phone call.
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Think it has to do with this

firehawk12 said:
The concept is pretty much done, given how this episode basically showed that they probably watch all of the videos and then write the actual "spins" around them.
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While I don't think the concept is done, I agree that constantly having 8 new videos is very frustrating because it sounds like some of the videos they skipped on could be extremely hilarious. I also agree that what we see is staged to a certain degree in each episode like when the wheel randomly starts counter spinning to make certain picks happen, reshooting wheel spins to make the videos come up in a different order, or straight up just planning to do certain videos and have other joke videos "win" to be quickly replaced.

I still found a lot of parts of this episode really funny, as a whole the 8 videos they previewed were some of the most hilarious "I can't believe this is real" though I'll agree some of the jokes felt in very poor taste especially in the dealing with death clown video. I felt the video became a bit too focused on straight up mocking the creator instead of critiquing the video on why it fails as an instructional video on dealing with bereavement. It especially didn't help reading the quote above about the creator after the fact. I was also a tad disappointed that for being so big into film making that all they could do for the how to stunt video was make innuendo jokes. It's not that they were necessarily wrong but I was kind of hoping they'd give their opinion on if the video did a good enough job teaching how to stunt fight something I assume they've learned during school/while making movies.
 
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chalkitdown1

Member
When Colin laughed hysterically after Jay told him that woman was dead I just lost it. Tears down my face for real.

Pretty average episode overall, though. I hate it when they pick videos which are just straight-up boring and not amusing at all. It's not fun for them or the viewer.

The Backyard Stunts segment was terrific, however.
 
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plasmawave

Banned
If they were staging WoW they wouldn't have picked the dog video... or that stuntman video where the roulette actually landed on the creepy clown video first. Rich had to go and pick off the wheel for that one because the dog video was so horrible.
 
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BassForever

Member
plasmawave said:
If they were staging WoW they wouldn't have picked the dog video... or that stuntman video where the roulette actually landed on the creepy clown video first. Rich had to go and pick off the wheel for that one because the dog video was so horrible.
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I don't think you understand how staging works

Let's assume WotW was genuine and their second spin gets the Clown video, they watch it and go "ooh man this has to be the final discussion video" and then they get the stunt video as their third genuine spin and watch it. Afterwards they can reshoot the spins so that the Stunt video comes up second and the dog video comes up "third" but with the immediate plan for Rich to rage quit and grab the Clown video. If anything the fact they get the dog video and immediately rage quit into the clown video makes it feel more staged.

One of the most obvious examples of staging is in the very first BotW episode when someone makes a comment during the viewing of the second film that "isn't it the next film that has Gene Simmons in drag" despite the fact the way it was presented to the viewer nobody but the person who had picked the films should have known that fact as BotW always acts like the intro 1 -> watch film 1-> repeat x2 for other videos-> discussion but in reality it goes film intro for all 3 films -> watch all 3 films -> discussion.

If they want to convince us that WotW is genuine they need to film all 3 spins at the same time in one constant take so that there's no way they can change what they watch. I doubt that'll ever happen though.
 
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plasmawave

Banned
BassForever said:
I don't think you understand how staging works

Let's assume WotW was genuine and their second spin gets the Clown video, they watch it and go "ooh man this has to be the final discussion video" and then they get the stunt video as their third genuine spin and watch it. Afterwards they can reshoot the spins so that the Stunt video comes up second and the dog video comes up "third" but with the immediate plan for Rich to rage quit and grab the Clown video. If anything the fact they get the dog video and immediately rage quit into the clown video makes it feel more staged.

One of the most obvious examples of staging is in the very first BotW episode when someone makes a comment during the viewing of the second film that "isn't it the next film that has Gene Simmons in drag" despite the fact the way it was presented to the viewer nobody but the person who had picked the films should have known that fact as BotW always acts like the intro 1 -> watch film 1-> repeat x2 for other videos-> discussion but in reality it goes film intro for all 3 films -> watch all 3 films -> discussion.

If they want to convince us that WotW is genuine they need to film all 3 spins at the same time in one constant take so that there's no way they can change what they watch. I doubt that'll ever happen though.
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What is the benefit of all of that tho? Seems like a lot of effort for almost no gain.
Why pick the dog video at all then?
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
I believe now that the wheel is just a conceit for them to frame the discussion, but I guess we'll never know for sure unless they decide to just show us making of footage at some point.
 
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brianmcdoogle

Member
Weeman0313 said:
I haven't seen Mike's girlfriend in an episode in awhile, are they not together anymore or does she just not want to do the show? She had really good points about the movies and was funny as hell.
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She hasn't been in a video in about 10 months. Last was the BotW Halloween special last year. People say you could hear her in a few episodes in the background of BotW, and I think you could hear her in the Avengers review, but either way it's kind of their business.

Haven't seen the new WotW yet (will watch tomorrow), but reading a lot of what you guys are saying, is it the worst WotW episode to date?
 
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BassForever

Member
plasmawave said:
What is the benefit of all of that tho? Seems like a lot of effort for almost no gain.
Why pick the dog video at all then?
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I assume in their view its to make a better video, that having the Rich get angey "fuck this dog video" leave and get the creepy clown video will make things funnier for the audience.

brianmcdoogle said:
She hasn't been in a video in about 10 months. Last was the BotW Halloween special last year. People say you could hear her in a few episodes in the background of BotW, and I think you could hear her in the Avengers review, but either way it's kind of their business.

Haven't seen the new WotW yet (will watch tomorrow), but reading a lot of what you guys are saying, is it the worst WotW episode to date?
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Nah I'd say WotW7 is still the worst, when you have to do a 4th video because the first two were so short/unfunny thats a problem.
 
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plasmawave

Banned
BassForever said:
I assume in their view its to make a better video, that having the Rich get angey "fuck this dog video" leave and get the creepy clown video will make things funnier for the audience.



Nah I'd say WotW7 is still the worst, when you have to do a 4th video because the first two were so short/unfunny thats a problem.
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So they pick the video first, watch the video, and then spin the wheel over and over until it lands on the right one?

Nah man, I don't buy it. It just over complicates things and RLM is way too lazy for that lol
 
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Tomita

Member
I still like the Wheel videos. I think the hijinks with the wheel, staged or not, are hilarious. It adds to it, compared to the regular Best of the Worst vids where they just go "Hey here's three random shitty horror movies." Also, it has to be staged to an extent (they probably do the spins all at once, then view the movies) but I don't think it's as complicated as some of you are making it out to be. Sometimes the video picks seem genuinely random, so I think they really do spin the wheel. One episode had a video of some lady doing makeup and hair, and it seemed like the group gave it a chance for five-ten minutes before going "fuck it" and picking some other movie instead (forgot which), and then basically pretended the makeup video never happened. If they always picked the videos to watch beforehand and faked the spins afterward, they would have never given that movie a chance. There's no way a VHS like that would be entertaining when it's a makeup tutorial.

I feel like these guys barely give a shit, so I can't imagine this complicated process of pre-viewing every movie beforehand, hand picking which ones to be in "wheel of the worst", taking multiple takes for every episode of doing "legitimate spins"...when it's just easier to (90% of the time) be genuine with the randomness of the whole thing. Also, who wants to preview dozens of shitty VHS tapes beforehand? And then film themselves rewatching it with everyone else, pretending it was the first time.

Or what plasmawave said, but I typed all this shit already so deal with it.

EDIT: This episode wasn't one of the best, but I wouldn't say it's one of the worst. I cracked up a lot during the clown part.
The prank phone call wasn't as funny this time around so that was a let down. I'm at the point where every time Rich gets a phone I hype myself, lol.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
Two of the three videos they picked weren't random, and the Chinese AOL video was something they discussed before hand. I'm sure they don't watch the videos first, but they probably have an idea and try to write an episode around a bunch of them.

It's just Best of the Worst, but with this made up randomness gimmick to tie the films together since there's no real theme.
 
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plasmawave

Banned
firehawk12 said:
Two of the three videos they picked weren't random, and the Chinese AOL video was something they discussed before hand. I'm sure they don't watch the videos first, but they probably have an idea and try to write an episode around a bunch of them.

It's just Best of the Worst, but with this made up randomness gimmick to tie the films together since there's no real theme.
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But they also talked about the cat video and the rape defense video.
You guys are over thinking this.
 
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Tomita

Member
Yeah, they talk about every new video on the wheel before spinning it... Sure, some get more attention than others, but it always feels like an honest discussion (whether you want to argue it is or isn't). You can guess how much discussion a video will get based off the cover/title. If they're faking that part of the video in every single episode, they're doing a really damn good job of it. I doubt they're that great of actors, lol.
 
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komplanen

Member
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Anyone want a little grief counseling with that whine?
 
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Cheerilee

Member
brianmcdoogle said:
She hasn't been in a video in about 10 months. Last was the BotW Halloween special last year. People say you could hear her in a few episodes in the background of BotW, and I think you could hear her in the Avengers review, but either way it's kind of their business.
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Jack did a podcast interview recently, and they suggested that he's the noob of RLM, but Jack said that he's not the noob, Jessi is. The way Jack said it was (casually) very "present tense", so I think she's still part of the group, even if we haven't seen her in anything lately.

And everyone knows they're trying to hide her pregnancy.
 
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Majine

Banned
Nothing beats Mikes superdark "Ironically, they're nothing but bones now" joke during the good ol' Osteoporosis dance segment.
 
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BassForever

Member
plasmawave said:
So they pick the video first, watch the video, and then spin the wheel over and over until it lands on the right one?

Nah man, I don't buy it. It just over complicates things and RLM is way too lazy for that lol
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You think in wotw 7 josh randomly attacking Jay to steal the 3rd spin leading to an eventual 4th spin which lands on dog sitter which was one of the two Jay wanted was completely genuine?

Or that the wotw was about to land on sos and then for no reason randomly started spinning the opposite direction until it got to cleared for take off leading sos to miraculously be the final film?

Or that after landing on the florence henderson video their rage/depression spin lands on the Shoji Tabuchi show the most requested video ever?

Or them acting like the wheel landed naturally on American Flatulators when Jessi forced it to stop was extremely good improv acting from these hack frauds?

Nah I think there is a genuine mixture of both aithentic spins and staged spins leading to the show we see. When there is tons of cuts during the actual spinning of the wheel and we rarely can see the rlm guys in frame until after the wheel stops I have a hard time finding the wheels spin results to truly be random. There's just too many amazing coicidences for what we see to be 100% genuine 100% of the time.
 
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Archaix

Drunky McMurder
People who come up with wheel conspiracy theories care far more about the results of the spin than anybody recording the show does.
 
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DrForester

Kills Photobucket
I assume that's why they remove things from the wheel. I think someone watched them and decided there's just not enough material there.
 
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