Or both. Restrict used and/or rentals during the release window, and take a cut of the proceeds afterwards.
Interesting that they mentioned PS4 too.
They probably know something we don't.
Indeed.Zoe
June 8, 2013 at 7:30 pm
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Couldn't there actually be legal ramifications for this? I'm probably talking out of my ass here but companies like Redbox and Gamefly could cite the Xbox One's policies and Microsoft's collusion with GameStop as anti-competitive behavior, couldn't they?
I agree, but I think you're understating how established these platforms are and how un-free these supposedly free markets are.
As an example, do you remember when, about two years ago now, Microsoft raised prices on XBL even as competition in the online gaming space grew more fierce, and services like PSN and Steam were catching up to or even exceeding XBL in provided services?
How could Microsoft do this? Even more importantly, how could they get away with it? The answer is that this free market isn't as free as we'd all like to believe. Microsoft is aware that many customers are stuck on their platform in a way that will be difficult to pull out from. If I wanted to switch from Xbox 360 to (for example) PC, that transition is not especially easy. If I want to keep playing the games I own, I will need to rebuy all of them over again. If I want to keep playing with the friends I've made, I'll need to convince all of them to move with me en masse over to the PC so we can stay together. I may even need to buy a whole new PC if my current one does not play the games I want.
Many of these same basic concepts still apply today. While this is an easier time to switch platforms than it is mid-generation, it is still true that most of my friends would likely be on XBL. It's true that my gamerscore (or trophy list) will be reduced to zero. This isn't a completely free market where consumers can readily and easily switch between producers at little or no cost to themselves.
Opiate, point taken.... But I'm missing where gaming is a right or something, like eating or shelter. It's entertainment.
Oh man, yes. Redbox and Gamefly coming down hard on Xbox One is great news. I hope this continues up to One's launch and beyond.
pssstthey threw Sony in there too
Adapt or die.
Adapt? I'd rather die then.
Best PC DD price on Black Ops 2 = $59.99
Available at Kmart for 360/PS3 for $39.99
It's a convenience thing. Which is why I'm curious to see if Microsoft will allow 3rd parties to sell keys alone.
Opiate, point taken.... But I'm missing where gaming is a right or something, like eating or shelter. It's entertainment.
Absolutely, also a possibility. You can just leave gaming altogether.
There are degrees of freedom, here. An absolutely un-free market would be one where you are forced to participate and forced to buy from some specific buyer. An absolutely free market would be one where any company can enter and produce and any buyer can freely choose who to buy from with no impediments.
This is a spectrum, and on that spectrum, console gaming is pretty ossified, where new entrants would face massive roadblocks (i.e. new companies would find it extremely difficult to create a real competitor to the Xbox or Playstation) and customers find it fairly difficult to switch brands.
If you just want to throw up your hands and say, "welp, that's the way it is," that's fine, and I mean that. You can't always have everything you want. I'm just pointing out it's a problem. Not all problems can be fixed or should necessarily be complained about.
They already unveiled their counter-strategy: Enter the already crowded PC DD market!
I just got Bioshock Infinite for $28 from them, so I guess I can't complain too much.
I agree. Also, Michael Pachter agrees. Watch this episode of Pach Attack.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/hhgq98/pach-attack--why-all-the-gamestop-hate-
This is rather weird. It's obvious that Gamestop has a deal with MS for reselling, and they must have known about it before hand. So Redbox hasn't' been approached by MS as a partner for reselling. Maybe mentioning PS4 was a way to cover all the bases in case they announced something. I have no idea what's going on.
Oh man, yes. Redbox and Gamefly coming down hard on Xbox One is great news. I hope this continues up to One's launch and beyond.
But if Redbox were approached, there would no website questioning shit. Hence they could give two shits about the consumer.
I don't think people are saying Redbox are the good guys looking out for people. We are aware that Redbox happens to want something that consumers also want and which Microsoft is explicitly trying to prevent.
Adapt? I'd rather die then.
I personally wouldn't get too excited before they eventually come to mutual agreement over special terms and rental versions of next-gen games, similar to how the film & video industry created special conditions and versions of their content. I mean, it's not like they won't come to some agreement that benefits both in the end as the big publishers already deal directly with these guys.
I don't think people are saying Redbox are the good guys looking out for people. We are aware that Redbox happens to want something that consumers also want and which Microsoft is explicitly trying to prevent.
Mainly because they just do not know.
Until they have solid word they have to treat it as a business decision, they can not go on faith.
This account is either a glorious troll or you aren't even trying to be subtle.
Then, hopefully, you'll gave large public libraries willing to defend our lending rights in a court.
Are you serious
So we should all go to that website and complain about the Xbox?
Glad to see some corporate backlash, however small and insignificant.
Only partially.
Redbox is cool for a quick movie rental, but sucks for games! Gamefly is the way to go, and cost much less in the end.
David H.
June 8, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Not being able to rent Xbox One games would be unfortunate but lucky for me, my GameFly subscription still gives me access to over 8,000 existing console games, and Ill be able to play all the best current next generation games right on my personal computer.
And the best part is GameFly memberships start as low as $5.95 a month.
Adapt or die.
I suppose this is one way of adapting.
EDIT: Also, title should reflect that the PS4 is mentioned as well.
Not a shill. At all. Or this is the longest con game ever. Likes Sony? Obviously. Joke account or shill? I'd damn near bet my account that Kyon is just Kyon. Mess.
Playsation_, not Kyon.
Gamefly Shill... right here!
I kid, I kid I love Gamefly and agree.