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Revenue and Downloads for every Sony first-party game ever released on the PSN (580+ titles, as of June 11, 2023)
ButchCat
Member
They've split out Spiderman and Spiderman Remastered which made them another 9.7m in rev. Keep in mind this doesn't include the Steam version or physical.
bitbydeath
Member
A lot of people talking about Days Gone 2 here, let’s look at what has occurred to date:
- Jason Schrier said Bend were working on a new Uncharted game with ND which is still yet to surface.
Sony Bend Was Working On An Uncharted Game Before Asking To Be Removed From The Project
Reportedly, following Days Gone's mixed critical response, the team was split in two to work with Naughty Dog.
www.thegamer.com
- John Garvin (former writer of Days Gone), admits (in an interview with David Jaffe) he already wrote Days Gone 2, and a strong outline for more potential sequels beyond that too.
- Jeff Ross (former Director of Days Gone), confirmed (in an interview with David Jaffe) DG1 sold over 8m copies, and Days Gone 2 in development up til he left Bend.
- Herman Hulst confirms Bend are working on a new IP. (Note: It is not stipulated as the only game they are working on.)
- Sony confirms they are working on a Days Gone movie.
- Epic Games release a photo of an untitled UE5 game about developers pushing boundaries.
I’m not saying it’s happening, but we don’t know everything.
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Unknown?
Member
It will surpass GT3.
Perrott
Gold Member
That's never going to surface because, as Schreier said in his reporting, the Uncharted project stopped being explored as Bend's next title in favor of the studio pursuing a new IP instead.- Jason Schrier said Bend were working on a new Uncharted game with ND which is still yet to surface.
Sony Bend Was Working On An Uncharted Game Before Asking To Be Removed From The Project
Reportedly, following Days Gone's mixed critical response, the team was split in two to work with Naughty Dog.
Bend's [...] studio leadership asked to be taken off the Uncharted project. They got their wish last month [March 2021] and are now working on a new game of their own that will be part of a brand new franchise.
The Bend Studio Uncharted project was also referenced in files found in the Insomniac leak, where Bend were looking at and comparing the expenses of doing either Days Gone 2 or the Uncharted game.
And since Bend's job openings from February of this year explicitly mentioned that the studio is pivoting from a developer of story-driven games to a live-service studio, I wouldn't count on Days Gone 2 (at least as it would've been initially conceived by Garvin and Ross) happening either. If anything Days Gone-related comes out of Bend themselves, it'd be an open-world multiplayer along the likes of Red Dead Online.
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bitbydeath
Member
Coincidentally that was what they had planned for Days Gone 2, they also wanted that feature in Days Gone 1.
nial
Gold Member
All but Blood & Truth and Astro Bot Rescue Mission, the latter which managed to outsell some non-VR SCEI games like Tokyo Jungle, Puppeteer and Monkey King: Hero is Back.
nial
Gold Member
Actually, SIEJA also includes sales in South Korea, China, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan and Southeast Asia. I do think it could be at 1M for now, though; Ghost of Tsushima, which sold 1M units in Japan, had a similar physical-digital ratio.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
so..what's the insight /shocking revelation?
DrFigs
Member
tlou2 is the third most successful game by revenue. true believers knew it was a success, but now we have numbers.
Oddvintagechap
Member
There should be more interactive computer media from Sony that’s more than just games. A Gran Turismo with full driving school software should be at every DMV. Dreams should be at every school for STEM classes, VR workout software, etc. I feel with huge amounts of GaaS money, it will allow for interactive media be more wide spread than just “gamers”.
semiconscious
Member
shock... from last month: '
Sony Hits Pause on PSVR2 Production as Unsold Inventory Piles Up
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...psvr2-production-as-unsold-inventory-piles-upif you can't sell the platform, you can't sell games for it...
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Im going to be using that so many times in here lmao
Edit: also, TLOU remake almost top 20…the remake no one supposedly wanted
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PendekarRajawali
Member
Do these games breakeven? We know that AAA games are very expensive to develop these days.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
This isn't a leak... this is a demolition of hopes and dreams.
I now understand why Bloodborne has never got that patch and why it will never get a sequel. Loud minorities indeed....
I now understand why Bloodborne has never got that patch and why it will never get a sequel. Loud minorities indeed....
LordOcidax
Member
I know this is only digital, but other than a few big names titles i find the majority of numbers extremely low… Also the psvr titles sales numbers are just terrible. Is this 100% confirmed?
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Of course, a majority of them not just break even but make a healthy profit. Also, remember that everything you are seeing here is just one-half of the sales equation. (not half as in 50-50... but you get my point).
Also, not all games have a Spiderman 2-sized budget to make.
bitbydeath
Member
That’s how you know people weren’t lying when they said the story was a trash fire.
nial
Gold Member
They will be giving it the remake treatment at PS6 launch.
I think people forget how easy we have it now, as you can play Bloodborne on PS5 right now, whereas for playing Demon's Souls on PS4, you need to have a Japanese console/account, AND do it through cloud streaming.
Topher
Gold Member
Compared to what? Which titles?
nial
Gold Member
Digital ratio was never a big thing until much recently.
Sleepwalker
Member
I choose to believe.A lot of people talking about Days Gone 2 here, let’s look at what has occurred to date:
- Jason Schrier said Bend were working on a new Uncharted game with ND which is still yet to surface.
Sony Bend Was Working On An Uncharted Game Before Asking To Be Removed From The Project
Reportedly, following Days Gone's mixed critical response, the team was split in two to work with Naughty Dog.
- John Garvin (former writer of Days Gone), admits (in an interview with David Jaffe) he already wrote Days Gone 2, and a strong outline for more potential sequels beyond that too.
- Jeff Ross (former Director of Days Gone), confirmed (in an interview with David Jaffe) DG1 sold over 8m copies, and Days Gone 2 in development up til he left Bend.
- Herman Hulst confirms Bend are working on a new IP. (Note: It is not stipulated as the only game they are working on.)
- Sony confirms they are working on a Days Gone movie.
- Epic Games release a photo of an untitled UE5 game about developers pushing boundaries.
I’m not saying it’s happening, but we don’t know everything.
Physical games ftw.
Perrott
Gold Member
And even then, I'd argue they weren't worth the opportunity cost of not having Asobi and the now defunct London Studio working on actual console titles with a larger budget (and as a result of that, higher appeal), which seemed to have done way better then any VR or PSN game by default.
Uh, not really.
This leak only speaks of Bloodborne's performance on the PS Store (3.5M units sold and over 80M in digital sales revenue, just as much as Uncharted 4), but thanks to another document disclosed from the Insomniac hack, we know that the game sold an additional of over 4M retail copies, for a total of over 7.6M lifetime units sold and 260M in overall revenue (just as much as Days Gone, but on a much smaller budget than Bend's title = high profits).
If anything, Bloodborne was actually Japan Studio's biggest homerun in their entire history.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
oh, I think you need glasses.
LordOcidax
Member
June 2023 is less than a year.
Perrott
Gold Member
Nah, from another document we know it had sold nearly 11M copies by March 2022, a whole year before the show came out and two years before the remaster, and generated around 450M in overall revenue by that point.
The game's budget was in the ballpark of 200-220M dollars as we learned from poorly redacted Sony documents from the FTC trial for the Activision Blizzard acquisition. It was also released in the early months of the pandemic, when pretty much the whole world was under lockdown, so the marketing spendings were likely cut down when compared to a proper, full-scale promotional campaign with real-life advertisements, such as the ones deployed for the releases of God of War: Ragnarök and Marvel's Spider-Man 2.
I'd say this puts the break even at 300M, which it has far exceeded by over a 50% (probably more when accounting for game sales driven by the show's success and the recent remaster).
It was a success.
bitbydeath
Member
StereoVsn
Member
It’s not exactly a shocker as we knew this from last round of leaks, but Sony’s big titles sell quite well on physical media.
nial
Gold Member
Asobi Team is an interesting story all around, as it was set up to create content for new technology and odd peripherals; you have Astro's Playroom for DualSense, The Playroom for DS4 and PS Camera, The Playroom VR for PSVR (duh), and Astro Bot Rescue Mission, their only retail game, as an evolution of the Robots Rescue minigame from TPVR.
I think it was worth it in the eyes of SIE at the time, not only for new expertise, but because in the end, they also had Knack as a non-VR 3D platformer at the time.
Now in 2024, Asobi and Astro Bot are the faces of SIE Japan, so you can say that they are very happy with how everything turned out, which is not the same case with London Studio.
Heck, they already had an Astro mascot costume ready for Tokyo Game Show 2018, weeks before Rescue Mission's launch, so I don't think they had very low expectations either.
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nial
Gold Member
So? It's not like every game there is from 2020 to 2023. Which ones do you think have extremely low digital sales?
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Topher
Gold Member
Dirk Benedict
Member
BB close to 8 Milly. Son of a bitch, Sony... You sacks..
Release this on PC and watch it hit 16 million. Easily. I'll do a ban bet and avatar bet, too. Bookmark this one.
Release this on PC and watch it hit 16 million. Easily. I'll do a ban bet and avatar bet, too. Bookmark this one.
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Perrott
Gold Member
- The bigger the games, the better they sell.
- VR sales were abysmal, with extremely low attach rates relative to the PSVR user base.
- PSN games weren't setting the world on fire for the most part, making it clear why Sony ultimately pulled the plug on developing downloadable-only titles. Housemarque's final arcade title, Matterfall, didn't even break the 500k revenue mark.
- Initiatives such as PSOne Classics and PS2 Classics literally printed them tens of millions of dollars with minimal work on the development side. I don't know what they're waiting for to release a retro PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP handheld.
nial
Gold Member
Matterfall did get a physical release in Europe, I wonder how much it did there.
Weirdly enough, Alienation also got a physical release in Asia-only, except for Japan.
Man, I really want to get these versions. Sad that Resogun is digital-only, though.
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Perrott
Gold Member
Uhhh, Alienation is soooooooooooo good. Awesome game.Matterfall did get a physical release in Europe, I wonder how much it did there.
Weirdly enough, Alienation also got a physical release in Asia only, except for Japan.
Man, I really want to get these versions. Sad that Resogun is digital-only, though.
It would have been really cool to have a Housemarque Collection (Super Stardust HD, Dead Nation, Resogun, Alienation, Nex Machina, Matterfall) in physical form.
Mobilemofo
Member
Weeks gone: co-op confirmed.
IAmRei
Member
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but this just personal opinion, i dont know the exact situation, though.
aaaand again, this is digital, we know they have more than that
that's true, 1:3 or 1:2 is not too high to sustain the model then. the risk is high, and the reward aint so far from the investment
but this just personal opinion, i dont know the exact situation, though.
aaaand again, this is digital, we know they have more than that
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The Last of Us Part II sold 9.6 million copies as of Feb 2022.
41% of those copies were sold digitally.
According to this chart, the game sold 6.3 million copies digitally. So the game sold around 2.5 million copies digitally from Feb 2022 - June 2023
So, my estimate of 15 million copies sold last year seems to be correct.
41% of those copies were sold digitally.
According to this chart, the game sold 6.3 million copies digitally. So the game sold around 2.5 million copies digitally from Feb 2022 - June 2023
So, my estimate of 15 million copies sold last year seems to be correct.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Are the people who kept labeling TLOU 2 a failure still here with us?
Loxus
Member
Didn't you see I said they could have 2 Studios?
We all know Sony has been tight lip since they left E3 about games in development.
xrnzaaas
Member
I remember seeing physical copies of Matterfall for 10€ or less in my local stores, people weren't interested in buying it. It eventually went out of stock and the prices of the remaining copies skyrocketed. I didn't play it, but I think it was the most generic Housemarque game from their arcade lineup and based on the gameplays I've seen it forced the player to remember and master quite a complex control scheme.Matterfall did get a physical release in Europe, I wonder how much it did there.
Weirdly enough, Alienation also got a physical release in Asia-only, except for Japan.
Man, I really want to get these versions. Sad that Resogun is digital-only, though.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Hmm, I didn't know that Matterfall did not receive a physical release in North America. I've seen physical copies of the game sitting on shelves for years here in Europe, priced around €10, which is also what I paid for my copy back in 2021. It looks like retailers have finally run out of copies, I guess, since I can barely find any new listings.Matterfall did get a physical release in Europe, I wonder how much it did there.
Weirdly enough, Alienation also got a physical release in Asia-only, except for Japan.
Man, I really want to get these versions. Sad that Resogun is digital-only, though.
That said, I'm happy that Housemarque finally found success with Returnal, which is also my current GotG.
Woopah
Member
Also worth remembering that Sony's revenue figures for digital and f2p include 100% of third party sales. Whereas the physical revenue number only includes royalties for third parties.
Do we know which region Australia, New Zealand and the Middle East are included in?
Also I wouldn't expect GT7 to have Tsushima's 50% digital ratio in Japan, given GT's level of bundling and lack of stock problems (unlike Tsushima).!
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tommib
Member
Anyone who hasn't tried Matterfal, please do. It's an outstanding action shooter with Housemarque trademark gorgeous graphics. It's a super under the radar game but a gem.
And be ready for the last boss which is one of the toughest ever.
Great soundtrack as well:
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