You should still buy the Remastered. It's really good!
Unless you don't want to support CD after their decision to go XB1 exclusive, which is understandable.
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Rise of the Tomb Raider timed Xbox exclusive for Holiday 2015 (No PS/PC, SE publish)
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You should still buy the Remastered. It's really good!
Unless you don't want to support CD after their decision to go XB1 exclusive, which is understandable.
corrosivefrost
Member
Holy fucking confusing analogy, Batman.
But I get your point, I think, and I agree.
I'm trying to think of another analogy to make... here, try this one on:
Exclusivity with something like Bloodborne is like the NYG holding back good seats for people who are fans of the team every game and selling them as "season tickets".
Exclusivity with something like RotTR is like Jerry Jones buying every available ticket for every NYG homegame in 2014 and saying "Sorry, everyone else, but only Cowboys fans will be attending your home games".
or something
It's not a great analogy, but it still drives home the main point:
Buying out a third party game that was headed to every platform late in development was a dick move and isn't the same as funding and publishing a game from the beginning with the intent of it only being available on your hardware.
From all the Tomb Raiders I've played, not only was it the best, but I felt it was better than every single Uncharted game ever made (IMO, of course).
For everything that's coming out in 2015, the only games I could tell you that I have any interest in was RotTR and The Evil Within. What's worse is a friend wanted to pre-order this for me on Steam. Now my friend needs to figure out another plan, it seems.
Your going to keep that from you playing the best game that releases last year. Lol
Well, compared to PS4, Xbone is
- a little more expensive to make, thanks to one-die additional memory hierarchy
- a little more complicated to develop for, due to the same reason above
- a little more hindered performance wise, thanks to cheap DDR3 memory (and GPU)
- a little more difficult to come up with new cheaper SKU, due to the same reason above
And worst of all, both have extremely similar architecture. In other words, even you put aside DRM fiasco MS fucked up on designing console to compete against PS4.
To turn the tide or at least slow down the landslide to Sony console MS has to do something, (or anything) to stay relevant. If there's some black magic to patch the hardware so the architecture becomes more efficient they sure will test it, but unfortunately such things never exist
I could see MS's strategy is rather limited, so this is one of the few they could do...
- a little more expensive to make, thanks to one-die additional memory hierarchy
- a little more complicated to develop for, due to the same reason above
- a little more hindered performance wise, thanks to cheap DDR3 memory (and GPU)
- a little more difficult to come up with new cheaper SKU, due to the same reason above
And worst of all, both have extremely similar architecture. In other words, even you put aside DRM fiasco MS fucked up on designing console to compete against PS4.
To turn the tide or at least slow down the landslide to Sony console MS has to do something, (or anything) to stay relevant. If there's some black magic to patch the hardware so the architecture becomes more efficient they sure will test it, but unfortunately such things never exist
I could see MS's strategy is rather limited, so this is one of the few they could do...
Darknight34
Member
Ok, ya I'll concur on that. I liked the new take, but they did drop the old style in the process which is too bad.
cebri.one
Member
Well I have to factor that in because I won't be able to continue Lara's story without an xb1. That's like reading Game of Thrones and not buying the latest book to come out.
Nightengale
Member
Was there something that only the press saw and we don't?
Because the presentation was basically E3's CG trailer...
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Grimløck;125141342 said:
I didn't take long to dig. Actually I didn't have to dig. You don't actually hide it. It was just there on the first page. Let's just say that when you decide to make a post in an XB1 thread, your opinion on the matter is in my opinion worthless.
Nope. If the new GoT came out only written in Sanskrit and you had to go to a paid class to learn it, then it would be the same.
overdrivex
Banned
"there is a game that i love, and i want to buy a next gen system"
FranXico
Member
My personal favorites are:
- The Saturn is avenged!
- What goes around comes around.
- This is the same as Bloodborne.
- The Xbox One supports mkv, so this makes Microsoft the most consumer friendly console manufacturer. Which makes everything else they do ok.
Well, compared to PS4, Xbone is
- a little more expensive to make, thanks to one-die additional memory hierarchy
- a little more complicated to develop for, due to the same reason above
- a little more hindered performance wise, thanks to cheap DDR3 memory (and GPU)
- a little more difficult to come up with new cheaper SKU, due to the same reason above
And worst of all, both have extremely similar architecture. In other words, even you put aside DRM fiasco MS fucked up on designing console to compete against PS4.
To turn the tide or at least slow down the landslide to Sony console MS has to do something, (or anything) to stay relevant. If there's some black magic to patch the hardware so the architecture becomes more efficient they sure will test it, but unfortunately such things never exist
I could see MS's strategy is rather limited, so this is one of the few they could do...
And that's the same to me because I have to buy xb1 to play the new TR as I dont own an xb1.
corrosivefrost
Member
I just pre-ordered Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris... and I honestly wish I hadn't now. I'm very "pro-consumer" in the idea that people should "vote with their wallets" if possible. In my particular case, I can't really get a refund, as the game is already tied to my Steam account, so I'm stuck with it... but had this news come out before my pre-order, I would not have made it.
And I would further that to go from the stance of recommending TR2013 as a game I really enjoyed when I played it earlier this year to telling people not to bother with it unless they own an Xbone so that they can play the sequel if they like it.
HORRORSHØW
Member
blah blah blah. talking without saying shit. what a fucking loser. why do i bother?
boredandlazy
Member
Pity I didn't see that post before that fucknut was banned. Since I have both Polish and Jewish heritage(although to be honest I'd call myself neither) I take offence that sort of flippant bullshit.
Exploratory
Banned
How do you know who's funding what or helping develop what? You have no idea.
aussiedude08
Member
even if it was on PC and PS4 the fact that its a cross gen game will make Uncharted look better any way.
boredandlazy
Member
"It's just subcontracting!".
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Honestly, I'm thinking that the XB1 version is looking for parity when the eventual PS4 version comes out.
Considering the different architecture, I don't think that's an unreasonable goal.
overdrivex
Banned
Grimløck;125142788 said:
your avatar is giving me mod bot foreshadowing, am out.
Dreamgazer
Member
Argh.
I'm pissed that I can't get anyone to acknowledge the textbook definition of subcontracting.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Steam would refund any game you pre-ordered as long as it's not released yet.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8360-wejc-2625#refund
Just contact their customer service.
Lol unbelievable.
The lengths some people go.
Edit: Although I have to say this is pretty disappointing, I was looking forward to trying the remastered version soon.
Seems like that choice was made for me instead.
cebri.one
Member
LOL
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/06/10/bloodborne-coming-exclusively-to-ps4-in-2015-new-details/
"Bloodborne is a new collaboration for us, being developed by FromSoftware and produced by SCE Japan Studio."
FranXico
Member
They can achieve platform parity without needing to focus their development on one platform first, though. Bungie managed to make Destiny identical on both consoles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2d625mDAXM
First 30 seconds for Bloodborne.
SCE? Check
Japan Studio? Check
FROM? Check
Who's publishing TR? SE
Who's funding it? SE
Who's developing it? CD
Prove to me the the last 3 are false.
drotahorror
Member
What exactly does that mean? That Xbox owners are the best, most truest fans to TR?
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
So in the time frame of 1 year-1 year and 3 months, you will absolutely have no way to save $400 (or less) for an Xbox One in order to play this game?
I don't think saving $400 (if you buy new) in a little over a year is so unreasonable.
You said you value your money. So you value having $400 more than you value purchasing an Xbox One and being able to play games you want to play. Okay, that's fine, but I don't think it's fair to hold such ill-intentions towards Square and Microsoft because you aren't willing to purchase their product.
Also, this exclusive just adds to Microsoft's list, it doesn't tale away from it. From now we already know we're getting Forza Horizon 2, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Halo: Master Chief Collection, Halo 5, Dance Central: Spotlight, Fantasia, Killer Instinct Season 2, Ori and Crackdown 3.
I don't see how Microsoft buying a new exclusive shows that Microsoft has no other games coming in the pipe.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
What consoles is it coming out for after the exclusivity
FranXico
Member
Chobel
Member
SE will need to advertise something when PS4 version comes out, "definitive version" seems like the best way to advertise it.
So the way I see it, TR1 didn't sell as expected, so SE thought they needed more Marketing to sell TR2 better. And I'm sure being exclusive with xb1 will give them that. MS will make sure everyone knows that this is only coming to xb1 with huge billboards, tv spots and so on, which will help this game a lot in popularity. Just look at this thread for example. Until yesterday noone was talking about this game and tr1 was selling like 2 million on the last gen consoles when it was originally released iirc. Now TR is suddenly a huge deal and everyone is pissed that they can't play it. So basically SE -> Mission acomplished.
When this comes out like 6 months later for ps4/pc people are still going to buy it, since they can finally play the game they weren't allowed to before. I bet TR2 is going to sell more on current gen consoles then tr1 was selling on last gen consoles by a big margin, even though last gen consoles had a waaaaay bigger install base at the time.
So I think SE is benefiting from this beyond just a hunk of cash...
Still sucks for ps4/pc only peeps though...
When this comes out like 6 months later for ps4/pc people are still going to buy it, since they can finally play the game they weren't allowed to before. I bet TR2 is going to sell more on current gen consoles then tr1 was selling on last gen consoles by a big margin, even though last gen consoles had a waaaaay bigger install base at the time.
So I think SE is benefiting from this beyond just a hunk of cash...
Still sucks for ps4/pc only peeps though...
I don't understand how a sane person thinks Bloodborne is a similar situation and deal when compared to this. I would love to hear some comparable deals from this industry, I'm finding this rather interesting, but saying Bloodborne or some exclusive Destiny map is the same as this makes me think you need some fresh air.
That information has been publicly available for months.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
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HORRORSHØW
Member
yeah. this cyclical argument is getting redundant and tiresome.
Chobel
Member
That's not how it works, the sales of delayed version are usually (always?) are not good. It will sell like shit in PS/PC platforms.
Kagari (mod and an insider) said SE didn't need MS help.
ShogunDarius
Member
I can't believe people are defending this bullshit, i'm actually disgusted with every single person that is. MS would rather buy a game than make one, as an owner of an xbox one this feels like a double slap, not only do they fuck over many gamers, they dont get me a new game for the xbox one either. Banjo? Viva Pinata? a new IP?
As a console the xbox one is fine but the company behind it, I want them out of the games industry and I dont care if my opinion pisses anyone off, MS are a detriment to the games industry. I don't know who but I cant imagine many companies that could replace MS actually being so anti gamer and anti consumer.
As for SE, uhhhhhh, that company has been a shadow of it's former self for years, they were one of the best companies in the games industry and in the space of 1 gen are now laughing stocks.
As a console the xbox one is fine but the company behind it, I want them out of the games industry and I dont care if my opinion pisses anyone off, MS are a detriment to the games industry. I don't know who but I cant imagine many companies that could replace MS actually being so anti gamer and anti consumer.
As for SE, uhhhhhh, that company has been a shadow of it's former self for years, they were one of the best companies in the games industry and in the space of 1 gen are now laughing stocks.
/DEAD.
Mass Effect
Member
Kagari has told us.
FranXico
Member
How dare you say those things? Microsoft are saints! They gave us .mkv playback support! /s
Well there may be some exceptions, like if the game gets critically acclaimed so the ported hardware owners would be still interested a few months later. (IIRC Mass Effect did decent on PS3, right?)
My point is while facially SE seems taking rather a safe route, they're actually taking more risky route for maximizing overall revenue...