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Rise of the Tomb Raider timed Xbox exclusive for Holiday 2015 (No PS/PC, SE publish)
- Thread starter fluffydelusions
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Camera and voice command Tomb Raiding
PC and PS4 are so similar to XB1 architecture that "getting the game running perfectly" shouldn't even be an issue.
What makes you think they care about voice commands when MS basically dumped Kinect off the side of a bridge before E3? And plenty of multiplatform games have voice commands anyway, so that argument is a bit silly.
Where does it say the game will be running on MS's dedicated servers?
DOWN
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TressFX in the cloudCloud Powered Lara
on bad hair days TressFX literally flies away tho
drotahorror
Member
Does anyone have some TR 2013 sales numbers? I think the only time we got numbers was the end of March, 3 weeks after the game's release. 3.5 million sold and considered a failure. I'm just curious if they ever got out of the hole they dug with TR. That game's budget musta been ridiculous.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
will it sell more then and be a better game then Uncharted 4?
AusRoachman
Member
Cloud Powered Lara
Cloud based physics boobs and hair!
licktheenvelope
Member
How much time can they need? They'll develop it on PC and port it over.
... You realize Microsoft just announced two new bundles and neither have kinect... right?
I honestly didn't even know Tomb Raider had multiplayer... is that a thing now?
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
"Well... Sony's Playstation 4 is superior hardware with easier architecture to develop for. It makes sense."
"Smart catch by Sony!"
"Well the Playstation 4 is selling double the Xbox One. It makes sense. The Xbox One is going the way of the Wii U. The 1 million sales isn't worth developing for."
And not saying these claims wouldn't be valid, and I'm not saying EVERYONE on GAF would be this way. GAF isn't a hivemind. Each user has different opinions and beliefs. I just think people would find a Sony moneyhat to be more "reasonable".
But, if you're asking me how I would react?
"Well shit. Good thing I own and like my Playstation 4. Good on Sony for grabbing more exclusives. Glad I bought my PS4."
Pseudo judo
Member
I guess some would see it that way. I read this thread and many of these posts and know if Sony made a short term exclusivity deal for Tomb Raider this thread would be much shorter and the tone would be considerably different. I suspect more of a "Tomb Raider coming home" vibe but we'll never know.
The vitriol over this has me shaking my head. I have the X1 but I'm probably going to wait and get the game on PC where it will look better and cost less. No biggie, I'll play something else for a while.
I'm not even that mad about this whole thing but the reaching for justifications are just silly. Cloud power, voice commands, and Azure for (I will unfairly for now assume because of the legacy) subpar multiplayer. Nope don't see why Tomb Raider needed those things if anything MS needs to hire a writer to make the non Lara characters worth having around.
Love Deterrence
Member
A little late to this party. Just wanted to drop by and share my excitement for Rise of the Tomb Raider and my disappointment that I likely won't be able to play it day one. Really enjoyed the reboot, and am looking forward to playing this - whenever that may be.
TetraGenesis
Member
You keep me honest, J. That's why I like you.
That and because we were from the same class of juniors. Respect.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
It had a 100 million dollar budget. lets compare that to all 3 uncharted games which had a combined budget of 70-80 million dollars.
6.5 million as of June. More than half of which was not from Xbox sales.
It doesn't benefit their customers. It's a slap to the face for their customers.
MS just spent a substantial amount of money for a game xbox owners would have gotten regardless.
That money could have been used to make original content, yet they opted to spent it on a game they would have gotten all along.
AusRoachman
Member
#4TheGamers whereas microsoft are supposedly #4TheMoney
licktheenvelope
Member
Ya I mean it's not like people should call out under-handed business practices. *head shake*
If Sony is paying Rocksteady to keep the next Batman off Xbox + PC I'll be just as unhappy as this announcement.
Chobel
Member
Are you trying to be dense or what? The game was always coming to Xbox, all MS did was delaying the other versions.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
this
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
I'm still salty about Microsoft dropping the Kinect. They promised they'll continue to support it but... Every single bundle being sold this year will lack a Kinect.
They killed their biggest differentiator to Sony's console. The Kinect is as good as dead as the attachment rate drops from 100% to 90% to 50% to whatever it hits. Makes me mad that they rather abandon the most innovative part of their console than eat a loss.
I still love my Kinect though.
Source? Because that sounds insane.
Well, what you wrote is from the point-of-view of a Sony fan whereas the Xbox fans would be up in arms. There would be people defending sony, same as you seem to be defending Xbox.
But hey, I'm just a part of the hive mind so don't mind me.
Way too many assumptions without any real fact.
Square has so many dormant IPs. DeusEX (went to iOS), Just Cause, Sleeping Dogs. There was never a gurantee that they will make another Tombraider game. They said several times the sales didnt meet their expectations.
licktheenvelope
Member
I'm still salty about Microsoft dropping the Kinect. They promised they'll continue to support it but... Every single bundle being sold this year will lack a Kinect.
They killed their biggest differentiator to Sony's console. The Kinect is as good as dead as the attachment rate drops from 100% to 90% to 50% to whatever it hits. Makes me mad that they rather abandon the most innovative part of their console than eat a loss.
I still love my Kinect though.
It's not a gaming device... that's the problem.
Ryse was supposed to be the killer launch game for Kinect and at E3 last year the game director literally said they worked with kinect for 2 years trying to make Ryse a kinect game and it wasn't possible.
AusRoachman
Member
Yeh definetely , it has no benefit to stop others enjoying a game that was previously cross gen. Not to mention that money could have easily been spent on something more to tie in the xbox brand (BANJO , Viva Pinata e.t.c)
Seriously dont understand how it makes sense for SE either, they have pretty much destroyed this franchise for future sony users with bad blood and without knowing the price surely its worth more to sell more copies then limiting it to one console.
Not only that but alot of sony users will now be weary with other square properties . Sleeping Dogs, Deus ex e.t.c
Luckily for this particular deal it works out for me as an xbox owner, but next time it will be something i want to play and exclusive to sony
If I was someone that was going to try to justify this moneyhat then I would wish with all my being that the E3 reports of the game being cross platform were untrue, so the argument could be: It's based around a single platform.
Single platform games actually benefit greatly from it. While it's true it will be a bit more optimized, it's not game altering.
Any content is now exclusive. This reads to me like list-padding following from stuff that just has to be.
You might as well list no accidental PlayStation X button prompt will show up in the 360 build.
You mean bigger install base on Xbox One because the players that own all platforms and buy the game on the more popular platform can't buy the game on the more popular platform.
So in that case you are right: Xbox One multiplayer players benefit from this moneyhat in that scenario.
If patches are supposed to go live on all platforms simultaneously then the platform that is slower at cert will hold up the platfrom with longer cert. The assumption here is that Xbox is faster at cert.
I'm still salty about Microsoft dropping the Kinect. They promised they'll continue to support it but... Every single bundle being sold this year will lack a Kinect.
They killed their biggest differentiator to Sony's console. The Kinect is as good as dead as the attachment rate drops from 100% to 90% to 50% to whatever it hits. Makes me mad that they rather abandon the most innovative part of their console than eat a loss.
I still love my Kinect though.
Ok...so why are you trying to use it as some reason to justify Microsoft in this? Your reasoning, if anything, is just grasping at straws and proving everyone else right.
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/04/joystiq-interview-talking-uncharted-2-with-naughty-dogs-evan-w/
$40 million total for the first 2 games.
Chobel
Member
Not an assumption, we know SE didn't need MS help to develop RoTR.
Droopaloop
Banned
I realize I'm probably going in circles here, but what benefit does it do consumers if Microsoft is paying to keep a game that was in development and already funded off of other consoles? With the success of TR and TR
E there was obviously going to be a sequel.The only current-gen console I don't own at the moment is a Wii-U, so I won't be afflicted by this situation. But I'm in decent financial situation to where I can afford to spend my money on extra stuff I probably shouldn't. There are many people out there who simply cannot go out and nonchalantly buy a $400 console because there is one game that is exclusive to to it.
I understand that Microsoft is looking for something that helps out relatively soon in terms of sales, but I think their money could have been spent better else where. Shit, maybe fund some promising indies or something. I'm not going to sell my Xbox in protest or anything; it's done everything I've expected it too, but pulling the rug out from other console owners seems like a poor business practice when in comes to consumer trust.
licktheenvelope
Member
That is just ridiculous. Square has been making terrible decisions for some time now.
Sometimes it's just so hard to go to bed when there's a thread as entertaining as this one
dragonelite
Member
Edit:nvm capcom owns those IP
This, and then they had a cool IP like dragons dogma the exceeded expectations and we dont hear a thing about it. Or keeping deep down for japan only and on ps4 doesn't make sense to me either. Deep down looks like a game the west wants.
How do you know ?.
Do you also know the answer why DeusEX went to iOS ?. Why is there is no squeal for Just Cause. Just Cause is more of fan favorite than Tombraider reboot...
That's Capcom.
Sony spent a generation demonstrating they make games. This short sighted negative gameplan is one that they don't subscribe to.
Bu bu bu bu but they did this #4forthegamers. Because they will all be more happy with an XB1 even if they are forced into buying one.And if TR is not enough, let's just buy Sony into not producing PS4s anymore and make a gaming-lock on all windows PCs. Then everyone will be happy - that's a great business strategy, isn't it?
There's no actual source on that figure. It's from this article (below is GameSpot's repost for the sake of readability):
Chobel
Member
Because Kagari said so (mod and verified insider).
SE put a Deus Ex game on iOS cause "mobile is the future" or some such. Game has since been ported to PC I believe. Pretty sure another Just Cause is in development, as teased by the developers.
TheForceWithin
Banned
Having played TR on PC ummmmm, hahaha, yeah, I'm not buying an xbone just to play a Tomb Raider game. Sorry MS and CD. lol.
Not so much them but us gamers. Good for Microsoft, not so good for gamers.
Sony fanboys would defend it just as the ms fanboys are.
Level headed people would still feel uncomfortable for what it means for this gen when long running multiplatform franchises can just be bought up like that. Even though I intend to own a PS4 I'd be pissed that I couldn't get the game on PC, and that again it would show that almost anything is literally up for grabs at any point.
Chobel
Member
That's Capcom not SE.
If they dont make the game then they are idiots. If they dont make game for PS4..then it is all because of MS !!!
Atleast be happy Tombraider is staying with consoles. Else it would have gone to iOS like DeusEX.