limiting your cards to midrange doesn't mean shit when Intel also has midrange at cheaper prices and with better tech. Even Apple is doing upscaling and Raytracing better than them and it simply comes down to the lack of AI acceleration in their cards.
I actually did. Just check the relative performance column and click between GPUs.No...the 4080 is 50% faster than the 4070. It might be worth it to do your research before you post.
As I said, top-end. There is entry level, just like there is top level. You simply have to see where they stack up in the market of available cards. The 4080 is very near the top but not quite. It's high-end.
No one has ever called an 80 card mid-range even back in those days. It was almost always the most powerful card for consumers. Beyond that, you often got into dual-GPUs or prosumer grade products like the Titan.
That's a 4070 Ti. You said 4070.
Yeah rdna 2 was decent coming after the 5700xt. Hopefully they are cooking up something cool for the long term.
Speaking of RDNA 5, I have heard first hand information from my source that its going to have improved rasterization and ray-tracing performance over RDNA 3. You heard it here first!
wafers at tsmc also not rubber. They need it for CPU/Server/Mi lineup etc. They will back, when time come
Hard disagree, the 360/PS3 GPU didn't even have a PC equivalent for almost 2 years. But that also came with them losing 2-400 dollars per console, FWIW that generation was long in the tooth but we got A LOT out of them, even TLOU which was breaking consoles by the end of it.
They’re kinda “damned if they do, damned if they don’t”.
PS3 GPU was basically just a 7900 GT gimped with a 128-bit memory bus IIRC. Nothing special compared to PC GPUs at the time (and was pretty old and busted compared to the 8800 series which launched almost the same time)
different times, different prices. I'm every year buyed top cards from ATI because theye were cheap and faster than NV, until 8800 series
Blackwell is Monolithic tho, and Intel is still long ways to be a worthy competitor their gpu is much bigger than AMD/Nvidia to offer the same performance of them.I can’t believe I’m gonna say something positive for AMD..
@winjer
But this is the most logical move
Intel will be dangerous in mid range market and they have more market share to lose to Intel than Nvidia.
High end cards are niche, like ~1 to 2% userbase. This is not how Nvidia takes a chunk of the market share either, everything plays out in the xx60 xx70 range.
They probably can’t compete against Nvidia high end, next gen with all the AI chip design and AI foundry optimization with MCM and so on, they probably have a monster. But an expensive one. For all the R&D it would cost AMD to compete against it, it would barely break 1%, just look at 7900XTX, just now it broke into steam hardware survey after all this time.
So concentrate on mid range killer. That’s what Intel is doing also strategy wise.
Makes total sense to me
I had a 6800 for 9 months. Awful card due to adrenalin.
I wouldn't count them out. They have good engineers. XeSS is already superior to FSR and current Arc's Raytracing on par or nearly up there with Ampere, in their first DGPU. And performance of the A770 isn't bad by any stretch.
Im talking Hardware IP here, they still have a long way to compete with AMD/Nvidia, A770 was a 406mm² chip competing with a 230mm² and a 276mm.
Kopite hinted it before lovelace launch
In one sense it kind of is. A lot of games are coming out, a lot of them are great games even.
Kept crashing my system. Although I didn't have issues with it in arch, only windows.
Gamers don't buy Nvidia because of brand power despite what AMD fan boys think.
AMD simply doesn't have an answer to DLSS and until they do they're fucked.
Bullshit, Gamers bought Nvidia even before RT/DLSS was a thing.Gamers don't buy Nvidia because of brand power despite what AMD fan boys think.
AMD simply doesn't have an answer to DLSS and until they do they're fucked.
Thanks. I stand corrected.
Yeah, that as well, plus low latency functionality and a few other things.
AMD had a much better chance at selling GPUs before RT/DLSS.
It is what it is I guess. Still looking forward to this MCM monstrosity coming down to the consumer level but by then I think nvidia will be ready,Interesting posts
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anyway he's saying only 400$ and below cards
Anandtech?Interesting posts
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anyway he's saying only 400$ and below cards
Yep. Only question is perfomance for 400$. 6800Xt max or maybe near 7900XT with RDNA 4RT?
Yup, if you’re going to spend $1000 plus why would you settle for significantly worse performance in the most demanding + graphically impressive games out there?
Incorrect, I had a 7800GTX with AMD X2 4400 in 2006, 6 months after the 360 launched, that setup provided much higher res/framerates than either the 360 or PS3.
