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At the size its more Hyper form, surely?
I don't know what's wrong with me, but I really want a 32X. Sadly they're ridiculously expensive here in the UK.
I got one for free from a friend with two games, Doom and Star Wars Arcade. Pretty mediocre. I don't recommend it, but it is nice to have. There's only a handful of games I'd grab for it and it's definitely not a priority.
Ingueferroque
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Star Wars Arcade is awesome on 32X though!
Apparantly there is only one JP-only 32x game (according to Wikipedia), and it is a Romance of the Three Kingdoms game.
theSlacker
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Nope, 32x is bad and everyone who wants/has it should feel bad.
Armoured Priest
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I don't feel bad. It has the best version of Virtua Racing. Shadow Squardron and Metal Head are decent. Knuckles Chaotix is neat. Kolibri is actually pretty good. Blackthorne is good
Sounds like it's arcade perfect. That game is garbage.
Actually, it'd be arcade perfect if, on top of all that, you had to put quarters into your cartridge to buy weapons and hire extra goons who are not Billy to play as because fuck life.
Also has really good ports of Space Harrier and After Burner. Virtua Fighter is good for what it is. Tempo is a stylish little platformer.
32x hardly wins awards for the best add-on of all time, but it's at least a better pickup than a SuperGrafx.
I've heard that, but I've also heard that if you don't try to play it like a Sonic game it can be a ton of fun. The music and art certainly look good, and I'm willing to mess with funky mechanics.
The Saturn Tempo game is REALLY awesome. Everything Red makes is awesome.
I played both versions and the arcade version is way better, you can actually beat it without dying but it's nearly impossible to do, and even then I don't die as much as the Genesis version.
This, and I can't wait to do a youtube playthrough on it when I get to do all the NES Double Dragons at once.
I'd like to try it myself. Probably one of the few games I'd go out of my way to grab for the unit.
I played a bunch of The Terminator on Sega CD today. I'm impressed with the game. It has an unreal sound track and plays really well...
Even if you approach Chaotix as just a platformer it still sucks. The level design is incredibly repetitive. It's made up almost entirely of loops going upwards. And occasionally you go to the right or down. That's really it. And level select is based on a roulette and seems to be totally random. I did a quick check on Gamefaqs and there doesn't appear to be a way to select your levels. I'm unsure if there's some hidden task in each level to fully complete them so you don't accidentally play them again.
It's just bad. It has a neat gimmick but it does nothing with it.
Ingueferroque
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Virtua Racing 32X is incredible, and refutes your point.
theSlacker
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I'm not infesting my Genesis with a giant plastic mushroom just to play one racing game. Pls go.
theSlacker
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Really? Virtua Fighter? Pls go.
Someone who doesn't like virtua fighter.
I guess I'm glad I'm not you.
and you're glad you're not me. cause then you'd have to play virtua fighter every time I did lol.
theSlacker
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Someone who doesn't like virtua fighter.
I guess I'm glad I'm not you.
and you're glad you're not me. cause then you'd have to play virtua fighter every time I did lol.
It's just not a reason to buy a system. I love me some Genesis and Sega CD, but even the Virtual Boy has a better system seller then the 32x. Can you honestly put any 32x game on even the top 20 of one of it's competing systems game rankings?
A lot of the music is incredible though. Best sound test screen ever. I really love the art too, it's so colorful. And Espio's wall/ceiling running ability. The stupid "get huge" power up. If the level design was better it'd be a pretty great package overall.
IrishNinja
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bro do you even cosmic carnage
chaotix & kolibri are neat, there's other stuff too mang
A Black Falcon
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Shadow Squadron is almost certainly my favorite console space combat game that generation. Great game!
Virtual Racing Deluxe is one of the very best racing games of the generation, too. And the same for Space Harrier for rail shooters.
theSlacker
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Meh it's fine. Even with just making it the 16bit generation you have to start really narrowing it down to specific and sparse categories before any of it's games start making the cut, and even then it would still be arguable.
Kolibri is pretty neet and had some pleasant backgrounds, but are you really going to put it up to the other shooters of it's time? Going into the 3d stuff it can be hard to find comparables for in the 16bit, but I'd still put something like Soulstar above Space Harrier
but I never got too into Space Harrier
The weird black mushroom just wasn't that good, and the sooner we can admit it the sooner the healing can begin.
IrishNinja
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i sure have
Piston Hyundai
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appreciation of the 32X is pretty much where I draw the line in terms of being a SEGA fan
The 32x was a dumb idea and Sega never should have done it.
That doesn't mean it's not worth owning for a serious Sega fan. You'll pay less for a 32x than many CIB Genesis games on their own and the system does have some good games for it. It's an interesting piece of history and it's not like it'll never get use.
Also 32xCD games are a thing that still kinda blows my mind that they existed. I got that version of NightTrap just for the double whammy of being a better version of a historically important game and the conversation piece of a 32xCD game.
That doesn't mean it's not worth owning for a serious Sega fan. You'll pay less for a 32x than many CIB Genesis games on their own and the system does have some good games for it. It's an interesting piece of history and it's not like it'll never get use.
Also 32xCD games are a thing that still kinda blows my mind that they existed. I got that version of NightTrap just for the double whammy of being a better version of a historically important game and the conversation piece of a 32xCD game.
blast processed
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Since the 32X released so close to the Saturn launch It really shouldn't have existed at all. I would have preferred those resources go to the inclusion of Genesis backwards compatibility on the Saturn instead.
sixteen-bit
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Saturn MSRP was $399 at launch in 1995. Could you imagine how expensive it would be if they included components necessary for Genesis BC? They were already pricing themselves out of mass market appeal as it was.
Gunstarheroes
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
Yet here i am with 30 of the 33 games released for it. At least i have Kolibri.
dreamcastmaster
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This man knows the truth.
PumpkinSpice
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If they really wanted to they could have made cuts in other places to get the price down and include back compatibility. The Saturn already has a 68k at least so I can't imagine it would have been that difficult.
If the Saturn had been compatible out of the box with Genesis and Sega CD games that would have been really awesome. OK maybe the Sega CD part would be a bit more complicated but still. It's kinda funny cause when I was a kid and I saw my cousin's Saturn I thought it was just a Sega CD. It was even more confusing when the only thing they ever played when I was around was Sonic Jam.
Imagine though if they'd had the Genesis cart port in the back though, and it was just as shitty as the Saturn one. You'd spend an hour trying to boot up anything. God that thing sucks. Blemish on an otherwise godly console.
Shadow Hog
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Chaotix is more mediocre than outright bad.
There's certainly an argument for just-bad, of course. the Combi-Ring mechanic is interesting, but the level design does nothing interesting with it, and the mechanic just gets in the way of what IS there. It has interesting stage gimmicks, but it often eschews them for more upward ramps in every stage ever. Basically, it skirts being a good game, but takes the lazy route more often than not, and is worse for it.
But then the graphics are incredible, the music is excellent, the boss fights are fairly memorable (even if the final form of Metal Sonic is pathetically easy) and the Special Stages are frankly my favorite in the series. It kind of evens out.
Still wouldn't try to figure out the logistical nightmare of owning a 32X for it, though.
There's certainly an argument for just-bad, of course. the Combi-Ring mechanic is interesting, but the level design does nothing interesting with it, and the mechanic just gets in the way of what IS there. It has interesting stage gimmicks, but it often eschews them for more upward ramps in every stage ever. Basically, it skirts being a good game, but takes the lazy route more often than not, and is worse for it.
But then the graphics are incredible, the music is excellent, the boss fights are fairly memorable (even if the final form of Metal Sonic is pathetically easy) and the Special Stages are frankly my favorite in the series. It kind of evens out.
Still wouldn't try to figure out the logistical nightmare of owning a 32X for it, though.
Re-playing Contra Hard Corps again. I could gush over this game for hours. Pretty much the perfect Contra game without a single crappy or underwhelming level. Only slight against it is getting used to the control scheme on a 3-button Genesis controller.
What is your favorite ending/end boss in Hard Corps? My personal favorite is when you fight the General head on. It's the first and possibly only time in a Contra title where a boss is a humanoid the same size as you who doesn't jump in a robot or transform into a Cronenberg horror.
What is your favorite ending/end boss in Hard Corps? My personal favorite is when you fight the General head on. It's the first and possibly only time in a Contra title where a boss is a humanoid the same size as you who doesn't jump in a robot or transform into a Cronenberg horror.
32X was awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3Cb4zr9Kc
period
but actually I'm wondering if the guys who did overdrive ever plan on doing a 32x demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3Cb4zr9Kc
period
but actually I'm wondering if the guys who did overdrive ever plan on doing a 32x demo.
IrishNinja
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fuckin' thank you
yeah, Chaotix looks neat and the bonus stages are a blast, it's just..barren. i wonder if there's a fan mod with enemies/etc? and mine was free too, albeit much later - many people mark them as "for parts" or assume they're dead, when it's just the ribbons.
I can't remember what ending I got since it's been ages since I beaten it as Sheena, lol.
IrishNinja
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the most ambitious 3d Dot heroes mod yet
A Black Falcon
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The 32X requires a Genesis to work, so it's not a next-gen 5th generation console, it's a 4th-gen addon. That's how the system is categorized.
Not really, those three games I mentioned are among the better games of the generation, period. The 32X may have a small library, but it's got more than enough good or interesting games in that small library to interest any Genesis fan.
I like space combat games, so Shadow Squadron's a borderline system-seller for me... and with Virtua Racing and Space Harrier on the platform too? To me that makes it worth having. Sure, I like having a lot of games and I can understand why many people don't want a 32X, but it DOES have some interesting games worth a look.
The 32X should never have been released, the whole thing was a huge mistake on Sega's part, but it was, and it's got some great games, some good games, and some not-so-good games, like most systems do.
The problem with Chaotix is that it feels like they forgot to finish the level designs. Most levels are unacceptably empty, with few enemies, obstacles, pits, or anything else. Levels take a long time to finish, too, which is a very bad combination. The concept isn't that bad, but the execution is incredibloy boring!
As I've said before, I mostly like Chaotix for its very cool 3d-tube bonus stages. I seriously think that if they had made a whole game out of that, instead of Chaotix as we know it, it'd have been better...
Contra Hard Corps is my favorite Contra game by far, but I don't know if I'll ever beat it, the Western version is so crushingly hard...