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Sega Sammy confirms that Sega Dream Corporation has fully acquired Index (Atlus)

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ash_ag

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i don't know the last game ghostlight brought over, but nisa's brought the last four atlus games to europe (well, aside from smt iv for whatever reason).

atlus is also nisa's american distributor.
Yeah, I was being stealth salty about Devil Survivor 2's situation (not to mention Overclock's bugs) tbh. Although to be fair, Ghostlight did a somewhat good job mirroring Atlus USA's special editions of some PSP games. It's just that they haven't been overly consistent in their work -- and generally, Atlus EU localizations haven't been consistent at all. NISA, Ghostlight, Nintendo, Konami... So many different publishers for a single house's games.

incoming Sega DreamAtlus Console

With Shenmue 3 and Persona 5 as exclusives. Imagine the breakdowns.
 
over a year ago. they announced it for spring 2013 then when spring passed they "delayed" it and never mentioned it again. It's now 18 months behind and therefore essentially dead

Ah, thanks yeah the updates on there facebook have been old...though we can pray to the gaming saints that this title gets released now. I'm dreading saying these words but a F2P version on the PS4 and PC could certainly be within the realm of possibility.
 
Well anything's possible, Sega even gave the West a Hatsune Miku release, so I'm hopeful the releases won't get much worse than what they've been.
 

ash_ag

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My dream: They use Altus to reboot the Phantasy Star franchise.
I never played Etrian Odyssey, but I've heard it plays just like the original Phantasy Star series. Between Phantasy Star Nova and Sega's regained focus as of late, I can see that happening!
 

Jinfash

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IrishNinja

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Wasnt it stated some weeks ago, that Sega just has like about 160 million $?

says Nirolak:

Sega has $1.92 billion in cash.

I don't want PSO though. I want a new offline series.

wasnt one just announced for Vita recently?

over a year ago. they announced it for spring 2013 then when spring passed they "delayed" it and never mentioned it again. It's now 18 months behind and therefore essentially dead

nah, its not Last Guardian. shit's still coming...part of me is wondering if, as a big F2P, its bound for PS4 as well
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Just out of curiosity: Who should have bought Atlus? A lot of people seem to be pretty down on Sega (which is understandable to some degree) but I'm just curious who they wanted to buy Atlus. Capcom? Konami? Doesn't sounds that much better to me
 
This is fantastic news for Europe, finally people won't have to wait years to play Atlus games.

Just out of curiosity: Who should have bought Atlus? A lot of people seem to be pretty down on Sega (which is understandable to some degree) but I'm just curious who they wanted to buy Atlus. Capcom? Konami? Doesn't sounds that much better to me

Jonnyram wrote a fantastic post on how SEGA is a good decision for Atlus:
OK, I get it... people are mad because Sega haven't localised PSO2, various Yakuza games, 7th Dragon, some Valkyria games, etc. etc.

Look at the alternatives, please, and tell me there is a better solution.

Square Enix: did not localise DQX, a whole bunch of DQM games, FF Type-0, a whole bunch of other minor titles
Namco Bandai: systematically destroyed every great franchise they had, apart from Tales, which seems to have a pretty random localisation record
Capcom: wouldn't it be awesome to have Persona and SMT outsourced to foreign developers for a great new take on classic Japanese titles?
Konami: see Namco Bandai

First parties would have sucked also.
Nintendo: occasionally likes to localise stuff, but they are random about this, and have a big WTF? element to which titles they decide to market appropriately.
Sony: well they may actually be interested in localising Japanese stuff these days, but their track record is far from great, where niche titles are concerned.
Microsoft: again, not a great track record in either localising or marketing Japanese titles overseas, and probably care even less nowadays based on their current lineup of Japanese exclusives.
 
What part of Atlus requires "revitalization", their business model is a strong one: develop small games for their niche, but loyal fans, enjoying the sales and profits that come with it. Index went bankrupt due to less than legal business practices, Atlus suffers.



This is terrifying.
I'll try to remain calm and wait until the first set of games, under SEGA, to be announced. One good thing from this is Persona 5 could (also) be on PC.

Nah, Yakuza, shining and miku isn't on pc. I doubt persona will be.
 

dkoy

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SMT x FE x VC?

I could get behind this, but then I'd need to buy a WiiU.

I was being all negative about these news but then this post gave me the sweetest daydreams. If only...

Imagine the Social Links you could do.

Not sure how I feel about this. I'd buy it though. Even better if it came back to home console.

So I've decided to remain cautiously optimistic like some out there. Sega did decide to give Tri-Ace a chance with Phantasy Star Nova so I'd like to think Sega wouldn't mess with Atlus or Atlus USA. Let's positive thinking!
I should play that game
 

IrishNinja

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Nah, Yakuza, shining and miku isn't on pc. I doubt persona will be.

all the sonic stuff is, and so was Binary Domain, etc...i don't know if we can really say one way or another. i'd like to think Sega's handing of Relic/PC development + the void for much of Atlus' offering on steam/etc would make for an obvious market choice, but again, i'm not looking at the #'s on porting/etc
 

MLH

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Just out of curiosity: Who should have bought Atlus? A lot of people seem to be pretty down on Sega (which is understandable to some degree) but I'm just curious who they wanted to buy Atlus. Capcom? Konami? Doesn't sounds that much better to me

Personally I was rooting for Namco Bandai, they don't have the best track record but as a publisher they are okay. I wanted Namco to act in this way; someone to leave Atlus to do their own thing, just fund and publish - a pipe dream, I know.
None of this "revitalisation" bullshit. Atlus' games have older game mechanics and design choices, I'm worried that they will be watered down to accommodate larger audiences. Or in the event their game designs don't change, they are no longer deemed suitable for western audiences.
 

Dusk Golem

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Personally I was rooting for Namco Bandai, they don't have the best track record but as a publisher they are okay. I wanted Namco to act in this way; someone to leave Atlus to do their own thing, just fund and publish - a pipe dream, I know.
None of this "revitalisation" bullshit. Atlus' games have older game mechanics and design choices, I'm worried that they will be watered down to accommodate larger audiences. Or in the event their game designs don't change, they are no longer deemed suitable for western audiences.
Namco Bandai have a much worse history bringing things to the West than SEGA does though, but not a bad thought.
 
all the sonic stuff is, and so was Binary Domain, etc...i don't know if we can really say one way or another. i'd like to think Sega's handing of Relic/PC development + the void for much of Atlus' offering on steam/etc would make for an obvious market choice, but again, i'm not looking at the #'s on porting/etc

Binary domain is a TPS aimed at the west so that makes sense, SMT/Persona doesn't however. The platfrom outside of hentai games, a couple of MMO's and Falcom is completely irrelevant in Japan. And the franchises aren't that popular in the west to warrant a port. Yakuza and Miku are bigger than persona and yet those games will never touch PC.

edit: and sonic is pretty much a western franchise at this point.
 

Yawnier

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Nope, I'm not feeling too good about this but the other alternatives (other JP pubs?) for buying Atlus probably weren't the best either.
 

Lesiroth

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Seeing as most of Sega's internally made games don't hit the PC (with the exceptions of Sonic games and stuff like Binary Domain) I don't see how we'll be seeing Atlus titles on PC anytime soon. Would be nice though.
 

mclem

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I must be one the only people cautiously optimistic, based mostly on SEGA's previous acquisitions of game companies. They haven't screwed any of them up yet at least.

I'm with you. I'm going with a wait and see. Their nurturing of their PC purchases has been excellent, at least, but Atlus specialises in a markedly different market, for the most part.
 

Amir0x

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I guess I'll just have to patiently wait to see what happens to Atlus USA in all this hubbub... the torturous wait to see if SEGA fucks this up is too much >_<
 

Omikaru

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I must admit, I'm worried. Sega have been terrible with localisations as of late, and I wonder (read: worry) if they will try to "broaden" Atlus' IP, only to have the efforts fall flat with it staying in its niche (especially in the West) with Sega never localising them again.

On the flip side, if they keep Atlus USA as a smaller arm of their operation, bringing over more niche games, it could prove to be a valuable home for some of Sega's games in the West and not just Atlus' wares.
 

Tizoc

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on a dead system, even operation rainfall wasn't getting that many people checking for it last i saw
Said dead system is getting 1 game a small/niche company in 2014 ;)

still comin (source: BELIEVE)
I look forward to the day I mock the non believers, when our Lord Nagoshi blesses us with this masterpiece.[/QUOTE]
 

IrishNinja

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Said dead system is getting 1 game a small/niche company in 2014 ;)

wait, for real? haha which game? that's crazy but then there's new games for DC & genesis this last year, so

I look forward to the day I mock the non believers, when our Lord Nagoshi blesses us with this masterpiece.

we gon have a party at toto's house & not invite him <3
 

Dantis

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I must admit, I'm worried. Sega have been terrible with localisations as of late, and I wonder (read: worry) if they will try to "broaden" Atlus' IP, only to have the efforts fall flat with it staying in its niche (especially in the West) with Sega never localising them again.

This is exactly my concern.

I'm readying all of my tears.
 

Lucc

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Could have been better but also could have been way way waaaaaaay worse.

I guess we can only wait and see now.
 

dkoy

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wait, for real? haha which game? that's crazy but then there's new games for DC & genesis this last year, so

TitS SC is coming to PSP next year, thanks to Carpe Fulgur translating and XSEED publishing. It's a digital only release though AFAIK.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Yakuza Kenzan, Yakuza 5, Yakuza Black Panther 1 & 2, Valkyria Chronicles 3, Phantasy Star Online 2 (PC & Vita).

They all say that in many ways this is probably the worst outcome there could be for me and the Atlus properties I enjoy. Sega West is a fucking shitstain. If they in any way get in the way of Atlus USA then we're at absolute tragedy levels considering that company has fostered (other than Arena) a massively positive fan base while Sega has made sport of pissing on theirs.
 

disco

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Good news for Vita fans. Sega is a big supporter of the Vita and I can see them not changing direction in terms of traditionally Sony supported franchises (Persona).

This is the best outcome for the industry. It's a shame they couldn't just annex themselves from Index and stay independent. Creates a lively market. Had they gone to Sony or Nintendo - it would've polarised the industry too much.
 

Kikujiro

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This is fantastic news for Europe, finally people won't have to wait years to play Atlus games.

Jonnyram wrote a fantastic post on how SEGA is a good decision for Atlus:

His post is not objective at all.

S-E: They may not release some games, but they will let other publishers do it, SEGA won't even do that.

Namco Bandai: They mismanaged Tales of in the past, but since Graces F they are doing a perfect job. They are releasing their Japanese games here and even localizing them in various EU languages.

GungHo was another great option.

But while I am concerned I think this is a great chance for SEGA to take advantage of the Atlus fanbase for their Japanese games.
 

Fisico

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Personally I was rooting for Namco Bandai, they don't have the best track record but as a publisher they are okay. I wanted Namco to act in this way; someone to leave Atlus to do their own thing, just fund and publish - a pipe dream, I know.
None of this "revitalisation" bullshit. Atlus' games have older game mechanics and design choices, I'm worried that they will be watered down to accommodate larger audiences. Or in the event their game designs don't change, they are no longer deemed suitable for western audiences.

Same here, for the last few years Bamco is clearly the publisher which found the right way to continue making games without dumbing down too much their products and publishing most of them outside Japan.

Sega is alright though, still way better than Atlus going 1st party (would have liked the meltdown on Gaf though)
 
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