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Senate Healthcare Repeal Vote Unlikely Next Week
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Mammoth Jones
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Hey had all this time to carefully crafted legislation to improve healthcare for Americans. Repeal Obamacare and replace it with a better solution was always their argument.
And after all this time it turns out they can't figure it out. Because it was always about dismantling what they believe to be an "entitlement". And instead provide a tax cut for corporations. And this in furniture is supposed to help Americans afford health care......how? I've never heard a Republican answer this. Not honestly at least.
All that time and can't get the time done. Amazing.
And after all this time it turns out they can't figure it out. Because it was always about dismantling what they believe to be an "entitlement". And instead provide a tax cut for corporations. And this in furniture is supposed to help Americans afford health care......how? I've never heard a Republican answer this. Not honestly at least.
All that time and can't get the time done. Amazing.
I think their logic is health care should be provided by jobs and providing tax cuts to corporations makes more jobs and therefore more people have health care.
In the real world none of that actually works and tying healthcare to jobs is an insane stupid thing.
Dude Abides
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They claim the magic of the market and competition will drive down prices. I think some of them probably even believe it.
Oh, they know it will screw 20+ million people; they just don't care. There are poor, sad little rich people out there desperately in need of a tax cut, and the GOP is happy to oblige - everyone else be damned.
It's literally trickle down. Provide tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, this should in turn allow them to invest more in creating jobs, which will then provide health coverage for these people.... except this never works.
Thats not their goal. They dont want the help of Dems. They want to accuse Dems of being partisan and blame Dems for GOP not repealing and replacing Obamacare.
BoogieWoogie
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They're saying two weeks because they still don't have the votes (most likely won't in two weeks) and they can't magic those votes up with folks who are deadset against it.
They will vote before the August recess but that isn't my point. Nobody said they would vote next week, and the last thing we need is made up victories which lead to complacency. The author acknowledges that they aren't even trying to vote next week so of course they are unlikely to vote next week. He didn't write an article saying they are unlikely to vote in two weeks (your stance)
See this is what I mean
balladofwindfishes
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They were originally planning on having the bill done last Friday, and scored this week, with a vote next Monday
I think Politico is just noting that because it was the original time line
I'm still surprised they haven't just kept at trying to ruin it one piece at a time. Especially with a majority in all branches of government. It's what they were working on under the Obama presidency, and had some small successes there. If I were a Republican who wanted to hurt tens of millions of Americans, I'd go that direction rather than take a long series public L's on a supremely unpopular move.
Republicans themselves are too fractured to ever agree exactly on how to replace it. Either it's giving to many free handouts, or it's taking away dollars from free market, or it's too much government, or it's too hard to get healthcare with those restrictions, or it's too expensive or whatever
If it passes it will because the one thing people can agree on his hating obama and wanting to erase his shit. Probably the most uniting concept possible under current conditions, and I'm pretty sure they will pass something eventually.
If it passes it will because the one thing people can agree on his hating obama and wanting to erase his shit. Probably the most uniting concept possible under current conditions, and I'm pretty sure they will pass something eventually.
You know how many Benghazi probes there were? They aint gonna give up. They are monsters thatoncet to become richer on the backz of others and kill off the poor and they finally are close to doing both at once.
Mammoth Jones
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Pretty much.
That changed last week though, not today. We already knew they didn't submit anything by Friday
Netherscourge
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GrizzleBoy
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They're going to do this for the entire four years aren't they?
superdeluxe
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HP_Wuvcraft
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Not unless 2018 goes well.
old
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I don't take any of these "they won't vote on it" stories seriously. Remember how it wasn't even going to be voted on in the house? Remember how it was never going to pass the house? It was never going to get the votes? How it was never going to be taken seriously in the Senate?
At every step we got "Don't worry about it. It's DOA." And then one step at a time it advanced. And now here we are one vote away from it becoming law.
At every step we got "Don't worry about it. It's DOA." And then one step at a time it advanced. And now here we are one vote away from it becoming law.
Well, it got them this far. Why stop now?
BassForever
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balladofwindfishes
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On the flip side, for weeks we were hearing "McConnell is rushing the bill through, it's going to be passed by brute force in June" "They already have their 2 confirmed nos, this is all an act, it's passing" "This entire thing is a charade, come next week, it's passing" and here it is weeks later and it's not moving anywhere and looks to be in bad shape.
And so on
We're also quite a bit more than just one vote from it passing. Like 10 or more.
Also, Ted "zodiac killer" Cruz has introduced an amendment where insurance companies could offer a plan that ignores obamacare regulations as long as they also offer one that follows it. In practice that would result in cheap insurance that covers nothing and decent insurance that is crazy expensive to discourage anyone from choosing it.