LordBaztion
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Shadow of the Eternals (Dyack) kickstarter ends prematurely
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TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
Ah too bad. I wanted to play the game.
Lee Chaolan
Member
This may need to happen for it to go through, and for the good of the IP (and developer), should happen then.
At this point I would settle for a Wii U / 3DS port of Eternal Darkness...
I don't have a GC or a BC Wii anymore
I'd love this as well.
kill it with fire, permanently?
Fuck no, keep Dyack as far away from anything as possible.
Various Artists
Banned
Im almost starting to feel bad for him. But, I dont think I am quite there yet. There is something to feel bad about someone who has been basically run out of the industry. Then again the rumor of him using funds from xmen to pay for this doesn't help me sympathize much.
ochaworldorder
Banned
Dyack or not, nothing Precursor has shown so far on this inspires confidence it would live up to ED (including the inability to revisit most/all of the concepts and characters in ED). Pulling a retool of the pitch after such a prolonged and disorganized effort to defend themselves against obvious and warranted critiques surely won't help the project's image either. Iwata/Retro save us!
Considering their notorious inefficiency, 1.35 million is why I thought they'd never complete it. I don't know how even less would make it more realistic. More realistic to fund, maybe, but not complete the project.
MCtalkfunny
Member
Sweet my account been approved! Yay! Been lurking here for quite a while. Now its time to start posting and here seem as good a place as any.
Can't say I feel bad for Dyack or anyone at precursor, even if all the allegations in that kotaku article were false as Dyack claims in that video he posted, the hard facts of Too Human and XMen speak volumes about the talent left there and the work they are capable of producing.
Can't say I feel bad for Dyack or anyone at precursor, even if all the allegations in that kotaku article were false as Dyack claims in that video he posted, the hard facts of Too Human and XMen speak volumes about the talent left there and the work they are capable of producing.
reddwarf42
Member
I feel bad for Denis Dyack but I certainly understand people's reticence to support this project. The recent track record isn't that good.
Samir Sedlar
Member
well, rough start indeed, maybe Dyack will show more gameplay that changes people views ?!
They should talk to Nintendo about porting the original Eternal Darkness to the 3DS and then hope for more (they could re-use the engine for a low budget sequel).
A $1.5 million kickstarter for 1 episode is crazy. Ambition is fine but don't try to fly to the moon before you've even mastered walking.
A $1.5 million kickstarter for 1 episode is crazy. Ambition is fine but don't try to fly to the moon before you've even mastered walking.
Yeah. I'm not justifying some of the stuff that they pulled off. Still, they seem committed to delivering the best product they can make, and the rumors going around back during Silicon Knight's demise pointed out precisely to how seriously they were taking the development of Eternal Darkness 2. Not that this justifies dubiously deviating funding towards this game from other projects, but still, I'm more than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt this time around. And Denis Dyack's philosophy towards game development has always been one I could agree with.
I don't doubt that Eternal Darkness ended up being a better game due to Nintendo than it would have otherwise been, but still, I don't think many people liked the game because of the gameplay. In that regard, Eternal Darkness was mediocre, at best. What made it so appealing was the narrative, the atmosphere, the historical settings, etc; and when it comes to those areas, I very much doubt Nintendo had any involvement whatsoever. Their contributions were most likely limited to gameplay.
ochaworldorder
Banned
Playable Dyack? One man will stand AGAINST the madness...or be owned by it. Shadow of the Eternals: The Lost Chapter. 5mil stretch goal.
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Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
Consider me unshocked
The strech goal that comes after that would be removing him. Boom!
bluecapsule
Member
After Too Human and X-men Destiny, I think people are right to be cautious. That's not a good track record for getting things done on time / not overbudget.
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
So did Dyack ever publicly come out and deny murdering that girl?
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Majima Everywhere System
Member
Strangely enough, this is actually the one Kickstarter I thought about backing. A Shame. Dyack on Gamers with Jobs was a good listen, and I liked where they were going with an opening scenario. I was going to wait for more info on Weekend Confirmed. I didn't even care if the game even got made, I wanted to see where the scenario might have gone.
I never even liked eternal darkness from what I played.
I never even liked eternal darkness from what I played.
The only way they can redeem this now is if they announce they've been fully funded by a publisher (preferably Nintendo) or something. Starting yet another crowdfunding campaign will only extend and deepen the indignity of this project's death. If people were suspicious of Precursor to begin with, their mishandling of this affair will only confirm all the worst suspicions. Shame, as I wouldn't have minded an ED sequel*.
*Not to say I'd crowdfund one, but I'd certainly consider buying a finished release.
*Not to say I'd crowdfund one, but I'd certainly consider buying a finished release.
fabricated backlash
Member
As if that would stop us from hating him.
fart town usa
Gold Member
Brilliant.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
I love Eternal Darkness, but I really don't want to back anything from Silicon Knights without Nintendo looking over their shoulder.
0/10 >_>
angular graphics
Banned
You can end a Kickstarter?? themoreyouknow!
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Wrong. It is worse than that because one of the developers insulted NeoGAF as a forum once.
Apparently.
All this pundit conspiracy theory about "can they make the game?" and "do I trust Dyack?" means nothing when people back inXile right after Hunted: The Demon's Forge, or Double Fine for a second time before the product of their first Kickstarter even comes out (after the runaway success of Brutal Legend and... The Cave? Stacking?), or numerous other examples.
Whatever. I wanted this game too, but people had grudges to air and axes to grind.
Cue protestations of impartiality....
No I think you should just have to endure the high-class interaction that you have encouraged here. Why stop? It's HILARIOUS!
HiddenWings
Member
This is being slightly disingenuous. Even without the NeoGAF misstep, Dyack has shown that he is not to be trusted. Normally you don't have run-ins with the law when you're doing everything on the up-and-up. The others may have had games of dubious quality, but they weren't ordered to destroy all copies by a court.
Yep, it's become so sad that people are now gleefully overjoyed when a creative and unique project seemingly fails because someone they do not like works on it, ignore anyone else who worked there of course.
Oh and you forgot to include Star Citizen's Chris Roberts in the list of people who can be given a second chance, after his fallout with Point of No Return and his Direction of the Wing Commander film.
EDIT: Though it'll be funny if they set a lower goal, then make their money through stretches
Risk Breaker
Member
lol Dyack.
JoeyJungle
Banned
No I'm so fucking excited for the Weekend Confirmed interview coming friday
RPGCrazied
Member
I knew this wouldn't make it. If it comes back I hope they have a much lower goal. I'd say $500k would be enough for one episode.
Weltall Zero
Member
"Since we announced this Kickstarter campaign we have seen more support from our community than we had ever hoped for. "
"$127,041 pledged of $1,350,000 goal"
Huh. They expected to get less than 10% of their goal?
I absolutely loved Brütal Legend (own it in three platforms, even), and enjoyed Stacking, Trenched and Costume Quest a lot; they also got consistently good reviews. What's exactly your point?
"$127,041 pledged of $1,350,000 goal"
Huh. They expected to get less than 10% of their goal?
I absolutely loved Brütal Legend (own it in three platforms, even), and enjoyed Stacking, Trenched and Costume Quest a lot; they also got consistently good reviews. What's exactly your point?
Your saltiness is annoying. In contrast to Precursor both Double Fine and inXile proposed reasonably sized projects. They didn't have the dumb idea to use an expensive high-end engine to make a friggin' 12 episode long game. 12 episodes, that's crazy. Even Telltale, the king of episodic games, doesn't risk long seasons like that, because the people there know that it's too dangerous that players will stop being interested half-way through. To make matters worse, Precursor asked for 1.5 million just for the first episode alone -- that's more than Double Fine and inXile asked for their whole projects. Everyone who's not completely out of touch with reality knows that people will be wary of an overly ambitious game like that.