How about a 5K monitor and a footprint smaller than a damn blender.
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Skylake review thread
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How about a 5K monitor and a footprint smaller than a damn blender.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Tech media have been very lenient with Intel and this launch. Compared to Haswell, Skylake is massively disappointing.
5% performance gain over flagship Haswell = zero real-world performance advantage. Gaming performance is even more shocking. Instead of creeping forward, Intel are now going backwards.
5% performance gain over flagship Haswell = zero real-world performance advantage. Gaming performance is even more shocking. Instead of creeping forward, Intel are now going backwards.
well, it and the blender have one thing in common, they both can't push a 5k display
They aren't going backwards when looking at gaming benches where CPU+RAM are actually benched instead of dancing with GPU bottleneck.
Have look at http://hothardware.com/reviews/inte...chipset-review-skylake-for-enthusiasts?page=8 and/or http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/08/05/intel_skylake_core_i76700k_ipc_overclocking_review/6
Coulomb_Barrier
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I'll do one for you, using my own benches and a few I've seen for 5820K -
Average 5820K at stock does: 1000
5820K @ 4.5Ghz (sweet-spot OC for this CPU): 1300
6700K at stock in Hexus review: 880
6700K @ 4.6Ghz (sweet-spot OC for this CPU): 996
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/85193-intel-core-i7-6700k-14nm-skylake/?page=10
renegade_dewitt
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Can't wait to enter the modern era of computing: upgrading from an archaic Conroe processor and DDR2 tech!
Here I come Skylake, DDR4 and USB 3.0/3.1!
Here I come Skylake, DDR4 and USB 3.0/3.1!
Memorabilia
Member
The only thing thats shocking to me about this is how many people seem surprised. All of the info I had seen leading up to this release indicated we were going to get yet another 5% "tick" from Intel. Which is exactly the case. Its actually more like 2.5% if you count Broadwell. The one upside to all this is people can save some money. Unless you're on a very old CPU there's very little reason to upgrade. Hopefully Zen will meet expectations. If so then AMD will be within shouting distance for the first time in years (perhaps within ~10%). If that happens & AMD offers the better price/performance option then Intel might actually have to get off their ass & come out w/ something that gives a big jump in performance to justify the price premium.
StereoVsn
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I am hoping for a miracle that Zen hits it out of the park and just freaking delivers. It's probably not going to happen, but something got to light up fire under Intel's rear. They have been coasting for years.
Meh, Skylake looks underwhelming.
Unknown Soldier
Member
AMD has been out of miracles for a number of years now. I'm not expecting anything from Zen and I still feel like I might be disappointed.
As far as Skylake goes, I'm still on Nehalem and I've waited long enough. I'm upgrading goddamit and no one here can stop me.
Pull that trigger on upgrade and embrace the feeling that comes from getting new toys.
Do it! ;b
exmachina64
Banned
People wanted to believe that Skylake would bring a massive performance increase, so they believed the 30% rumor despite all evidence to the contrary.
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SneakyStephan
Banned
40 Percent over excavator would put it about on par with ivy (aka within a few percent of haswell and within 15 percent of skylake)
They also announced they'll have 8 cores again, so you'll have an 8 core AMD zen cpu this time with actual full and big cores that can compete with intel IPC wise.
If nothing else it should mean that intel will start having to sell 6-8 core cpus (at i5-i7 prices)
Ask anyone at the time the 2500k released and they all would have told you that by 2014-2015 8 core intel cpus would be mainstream.
Then the bulldozer disaster happened and competition stopped.
Intel just keep churning out low end cpus for mainstream (quad cores) while in the server space they already have 18 core cpus.
I still would recommended Sandy Bridge owners to upgrade anyways. No, the improvements per generation aren't in the double digit percentages but their is a noticeable improvement in minimum frame times in gaming. The motherboard improvements are another thing to consider.
So basically my 2500k it's going stay on for like, the next 3 years?
I should get around and overclock the thing, but barely any game pushes it... Maybe next year.
I swear, after having a toaster for about 12 years, I would have never thought that my new PC would last almost 8 years.
I should get around and overclock the thing, but barely any game pushes it... Maybe next year.
I swear, after having a toaster for about 12 years, I would have never thought that my new PC would last almost 8 years.
Some interesting benches for you.
Civ, which is n-threaded
Project Cars, which is notoriously CPU heavy
For 120Hz gaming, I'd say Skylake is finally a worthy upgrade to Sandy for the performance and features.
Haswell-E is 5820K, 5930K, and 5960X.
I just saw the couple of graphs.
I have the 5930k, seems I will be keeping it for a while.
Oh yeah. I mean, it's still not even really worth it to upgrade from Ivy Bridge. Haswell-E will be good to go for at least 4 years, probably longer.
Well, even in the Civ stuff, it's the difference between staying well above 60fps and having issues maintaining it. It's not the difference between "playable" and "not playable", but it's a good performance boost.
It's not really a premium price considering what you're getting. It's the best value of any Apple product.
Much more powerful than MacBooks too, not sure where that notion is coming from.
yeah I'll probably just OC as much as I can till it becomes a problem lol
thebigmachine
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I'm running a i5 750 (Lynnfield) . Have I waited long enough or should I wait for the E line or whatever is after Skylake?
Just skip anything Skylake and wait for that next thing...
If you feel that it's time to upgrade then go for upgrades. If you adopt thinking that "Maybe I should wait, some cool stuff comes out within next 12 months" then you will never upgrade because there is always next cool thing around corner to wait for. I'm upgrading from i5 750 to i5 6600K now and I can't wait to see that performance and platform upgrade.
opticalmace
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Yeah I got into that routine. I'll wait for ivybridge-E then Haswell-E then Skylake_E until my computer finally forced my hand earlier this month. Now I'm deciding between Skylake and Haswell-E for my computer to replace the dying Q6700. Either one will be a huge boost to my compiling and videogaming but I'm leaving towards skylake for the higher single process advantage over needed the extra cores for anything beyond compiling at this point.
alexandros
Banned
Yup, my thoughts exactly. Come on AMD, this is your chance.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Going by the Fiji GPU launches....yeesh, I'm not very confident at all. I'm thinking terrible delays.
General Lee
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I feel like it might be soon time to put my 2500K platform to rest, but these "improvements" just don't encourage me to upgrade. Considering how much a mobo+ddr4+cpu is going to cost and how little extra performance it's going to bring me at 4K I might as well just wait for 16 nm GPUs before I make the jump to a new platform entirely. Might even wait for Zen, though I'm fully ready for yet Another Massive Delay and ultimately disappointing performance from the red team. Still, it might poke some life into Intel. All I've seen since SB is steadily increasing prices and <5% performance improvements. While 2500K was a great buy back in the day, I'm not exactly rejoicing over the fact that performance development has practically stopped.
Yeah this is a joke. I haven't felt the need to upgrade my cpu in 5 years.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Man, Intel just made the i7 too damn good, the gains is just not worth it with costs (new motherboard for the processor with newer memory) that I can set aside for a better GPU for greater gains.
I'm going to ride out my current i7 processor for a long ass time.
I'm going to ride out my current i7 processor for a long ass time.
It seems like intel's efforts have been easily in the notebook space. Lots of advancement in low voltage and low TDP chips, and improving the integrated graphics a lot. Going from sandy bridge mobile chips to skylake mobile chips would be a much bigger Juno than the equivalents in the desktop area.
shadowhunter89
Banned
Meh, I just think it's impressive that my 2nd PC with a X5670 is still viable being 5 years old.
My 5820K is going to last me a very long time.
My 5820K is going to last me a very long time.
NoPiece
Member
I got my i7 860 in 2009, for what seemed like an expensive $289. Four video cards later, it is still chugging along, and rarely a performance bottleneck. Kinda cool, kinda lame..
bearythebear
Member
I've had an i5 750 since 2010. Is this a big enough leap? I had to replace my busted gpu, but not sure if I should upgrade cpu/mobo
opticalmace
Member
Yes it is
TheChewyWaffles
Member
My i7-2600k + Asus P8Z68-V Pro is probably the best 1-2 combo in PC building I've ever purchased. I've had them going on 4 years and, like you, simply had to upgrade the graphics card. Amazing value.
CarbonFire
Member
My motherboard is slowly dying, and it pains me to think how much I'm going to have to spend for such a little performance improvement over my current Ivy Bridge setup. I can't believe we won't see the next real stop up in performance until almost 2018.
This no competition thing sucks balls. Just like it did in the 90s.
This no competition thing sucks balls. Just like it did in the 90s.