It sucks we won't get anymore coverage like we did last night, but at least he will have his console working by launch.
There is zero reason for him to be ban for almost 2 weeks
It sucks we won't get anymore coverage like we did last night, but at least he will have his console working by launch.
I'll try to get him on a bit early, but the service, store and UI are still getting some finishing touches on it so we're not completely ready yet.
did the ebay guy get banned?
Like I have said before, he would not have been banned if he did not create a spectacle.
Someone ask Yoshida, " what if I post youtube videos, post pics of the UI and other information prior to launch with my leaked console? Would I get banned then? "
The answer to that would be something to see.
I'll try to get him on a bit early, but the service, store and UI are still getting some finishing touches on it so we're not completely ready yet.
That's unfortunate :-( but understandable. This was one of the best threads I've followed pre-launch. Myself and others were up for hours hitting the refresh button constantly and getting all those glorious screens!I'll try to get him on a bit early, but the service, store and UI are still getting some finishing touches on it so we're not completely ready yet.
Sony fanboy:Users, going from graphic whores to lawyers in the matter of days, believe that Microsoft are abusing their own Terms of Use and the ban was not justified
I reached out to him and I'll get this sorted out. His console will not be permabanned that is for sure.
Someone paid the bid?I'm sure he wouldn't care if he was, he's already made his bank.
did the ebay guy get banned?
It shouldn't.
The fact that MS would even consider taking this out on the end user is beyond ridiculous... It was probably an automated response for consoles that log on before the launch date.
BUT STILL- It would be a retailer's fault and not the user. It's still bullshit.
They can still do the whitelist thing (if they even have such a thing), just not allow access to people who aren't on there rather than outright banning them.
He's a real customer, embargos don't apply to him, he didn't sign anything.
Because he's not under embargo?
he wasn't. only sonygaf has found another reason to be angry about a console they will never buy so the rest of gaf have to suffer it. it's getting tiresome.
i cant believe people think this is what should happen... Microsoft needs to take this up with Target and not with users that got their consoles few days early.
But again, this is the same type of stuff they have been doing all this year, nothing has changed at all from February onwards.
Hmm, but what about before the 15th?
There are plenty of reasons, Major Nelson listed a few....but it doesn't matter in 2 weeks everyone will be playing.There is zero reason for him to be ban for almost 2 weeks
I'll tell you what is getting tiresome, this "sonygaf" is getting tiresome! I was lurking around the PS3 launch & this was most definitely not "sonygaf".
How is it ridiculous? If we know the machine and service are not launching until the 22nd why should we expect access any earlier. They ban the machine from access to the service until the 22nd but he can still use the console.
And as someone mentioned, Ghosts currently has an embargo so the people who can only play it right now are probably people who have been given the a-ok (e.g.: press).
I really wish that people would stop, look at information that's already there, make logical connections, and then state what they felt happened but it's the internet and people just love spreading FUD without seeing various sides.
It seems like there was an automated system in place -- not a person at MS seeing him and then deciding to ban him.
C'mon, most "defending" the ban stated it was likely temporary and there was not enough info to make judgement, and that it would be sorted out.I don't think anyone's out for blood, I think your looking at this completely wrong.
GAF is merely out for what's right & as acknowledged by the Major, having this guys console banned clearly isn't right and I'd imagine GAF's reaction would be exactly the same had this been a PS4 that got bricked pre-release.
It's good to see MS reps responding swiftly & correctly.
Wait, people think embargoes and street dates hold any authority over customers? Uhh no, they don't.
And what about MS getting youtube to take down his in boxing video? Surely you don't think Coke should be able to take down your videos for having coke cans in them, right?As we know MS will be sensible, the mechanism of banning the console is at this moment, a denial of XBLive until 22nd November..
It seems like some are insinuating that because he innocently bought a console super early that he is 'entitled' to access XBL and everything it offers?
Banning the console was the denial mechanism, and now that MS are sorting it out and we know it's only temporary, then I feel this vindicates the common sense position..
It's like the embargo.. sure he didn't sign one, but that's not the point, MS are defending those that did..
MS are overly draconian for sure, but I'm not convinced people understand what they are expecting of MS..
There are plenty of reasons, Major Nelson listed a few....but it doesn't matter in 2 weeks everyone will be playing.
Thank Christ, but this should NEVER have happened in the first place.
I reached out to him and I'll get this sorted out. His console will not be permabanned that is for sure.
So the current 500mb update he installed isn't the day 1 update?I'll try to get him on a bit early, but the service, store and UI are still getting some finishing touches on it so we're not completely ready yet.
What they banned them all until the service launches?Boy was I wrong. I'm pretty sure he could sue them..? He didn't break any rules. He shouldn't have posted his gamertag.
Fuck Microsoft for that though. Think if this happened on a bigger scale and they let out 3-5k consoles and they banned them all
Wow
So basically, if you're unjustly banned you better make a stink on twitter, GAF, get a mention of it in an Engadget article, and make enough ruckus that you threaten a console launch and then MS might look into getting you unbanned.
As I said in the other thread, one-off promises of unbannings (since he hasn't actually been unbanned yet) like this don't change anything at the corporate-level of MS which is where all of this grief they're causing themselves originates.
And LOL at, "It won't be permanent," can't get much fudgier than that.
That is the part that might make an interesting court case. Him posting the info on twitter could be legally considered "publishing" it.
Good luck with that. What does Reserve the Right" even mean?Boy was I wrong. I'm pretty sure he could sue them..? He didn't break any rules. He shouldn't have posted his gamertag.
Fuck Microsoft for that though. Think if this happened on a bigger scale and they let out 3-5k consoles and they banned them all
Wow
I reached out to him and I'll get this sorted out. His console will not be permabanned that is for sure.
I agree but at the same time this (more than likely) automated system is in place since MS had faith in the retailers.
Therefore if someone outside of the press got an Xbox One early, they probably previously assumed that it would only be due to someone stealing store inventory before launch or something similar to that.
As I said before, I highly doubt that MS saw the guy and then said "ban his console now"! There has to be a current system in place so that only the press has access to the online experiences of certain games/features right now.
C'mon, most "defending" the ban stated it was likely temporary and there was not enough info to make judgement, and that it would be sorted out.
Didn't stop the pitchforks from being raised. Even had people saying that they will unban him just because they have to save face.
Please step back and acknowledge that there is a very obvious tilt in this forum. And its not all because of consumer rights.
Queue the step back / 720p digs.
It shouldn't even be in his hands right now so it doesn't even matter. Just get over it, we had some great updates last night but the fun is over. The guy will get a working console, still earlier than the rest of us.They are good reason for MS to not want him online, but not good enough for his system to be ban for almost 2 weeks. Why is a 2 weeks ban okay at all?
So the current 500mb update he installed isn't the day 1 update?
C'mon, most "defending" the ban stated it was likely temporary and there was not enough info to make judgement, and that it would be sorted out.
Didn't stop the pitchforks from being raised. Even had people saying that they will unban him just because they have to save face.
Please step back and acknowledge that there is a very obvious tilt in this forum. And its not all because of consumer rights.
Queue the step back / 720p digs.
And what about MS getting youtube to take down his in boxing video? Surely you don't think Coke should be able to take down your videos for having coke cans in them, right?
I reached out to him and I'll get this sorted out. His console will not be permabanned that is for sure.