new game portable. its a temporary name.isamu said:A dumb question I'm sure, but the fuck do the letters "NGP" stand for?
new game portable. its a temporary name.isamu said:A dumb question I'm sure, but the fuck do the letters "NGP" stand for?
StuBurns said:Next Generation Portable.
You want to vomit now don't you?
StuBurns said:Next Generation Portable.
You want to vomit now don't you?
PS2 was called that by Sony before they officially revealed it.tino said:It's actually Next Generation Playstation. It's a replacement for both PSP and PS3.
PSP brand is poison in the west.isamu said:Haha. Well, It's not THAT bad a name, I guess. Dunno why the hell they couldn't have simply gone with, Oh I dunno...."PSP2"???
Anyone with a multi monitor setup.StuBurns said:What monitor could you possibly be viewing that on?
erlim said:Wouldn't it kind of be like how ps3 doesn't really improve the performance of psone (and in some cases ps2) games outside of minor visual softening? How would higher specs improve ps3 games. Aren't they locked into their performance and programed to run for a single specification? F.E.A.R. would still run at 20 fps on a ps3.5, right? If that's the case, ps3.5 would be a huge sham, as I doubt any developers outside of sony would take advantage of the extra power under the hood.
Although I guess it might be worth paying $350 or whatever for a new half system for like a + version of uncharted 4...
Graphics Horse said:1080p IS 2k (or near enough, cropped to 16:9)
For some reason they switched from vertical resolution to rough approximation of horizontal resolution.
paskowitz said:Perfect example, Gran Turismo 5. You can tell the PS3 struggles to run that game. If it had more memory to play with it would be a truly staggering game. Imagine 30+ cars on track, 8x AA, higher res track, true fluid effects for rain and snow, all at 1080p 60fps. SCE devs are so capable, it amazing that the PS3, a system that was ahead of its time, is already holding them back.
bloodforge said:I just wish this gen of consoles would end already.
And handhelds will never replace a console for me unless they can output in HD and 5.1+ audio.
Gorgon said:What exactely made the PS3 ahead of it's time? My 4 years old computer, bought before my PS3, eats the PS3 alive, then and now.
thuway said:Sony could inject some love into this gen with a slightly upgraded version of the PS3. However, if Sony were to release a PS3.5 wouldn't it be smart to just phase out the PS3 altogether?
The PS3.5 could replace the PS3 like the 3Gs replaced the 3G. Is this reaching to want this in a theoretical PS3.5:
Slimmer Profile
8X Bluray
1 TB HD
1 Gig Ram
Upgraded GPU (2X powerful than the current one)
$299
Fall 2011 or Early 2012
First party titles would open up code to take full advantage of the upgraded specs. I am getting sick thinking about what Killzone, Uncharted, or Versus XIII would look like if they were to target those specs.
thuway said:Sony could inject some love into this gen with a slightly upgraded version of the PS3. However, if Sony were to release a PS3.5 wouldn't it be smart to just phase out the PS3 altogether?
The PS3.5 could replace the PS3 like the 3Gs replaced the 3G. Is this reaching to want this in a theoretical PS3.5:
Slimmer Profile
8X Bluray
1 TB HD
1 Gig Ram
Upgraded GPU (2X powerful than the current one)
$299
Fall 2011 or Early 2012
First party titles would open up code to take full advantage of the upgraded specs. I am getting sick thinking about what Killzone, Uncharted, or Versus XIII would look like if they were to target those specs.
It would cause no more fragmentation than any of the other ps3 revisions we've had.Sony is not stupid enough to cause market fragmentation like that. Won't happen.
I don't like the idea either, I want a real ps4 in 2013 with great tech and built with the same strategy as the NGP - getting the developers input as to what they want and starting from there.kuroshiki said:Sony is not stupid enough to cause market fragmentation like that. Won't happen.
Lonely1 said:So, is personal preference then? As you said, your personal opinion has no effect on what third parties will actually do.
H_Prestige said:It would cause no more fragmentation than any of the other ps3 revisions we've had.
EucadianProphecy said:You have a company that to all intents and purposes abandoned the hardcore & core gamer demographic to firmly establish for themselves an installed base primarily made up of the non-gamer and non-traditional casual gamer demographics. Even with their own first party support they, for the most part, alienated the core gamer and thus resulted in third party support drying up for their console.
How then does a company like that persuade their current non-core audience to upgrade to a WiiHD.
Nintendo will have a very very difficult job trying to draw them away, especially given that these being the most informed demographic generally will know that Sony and MS' next boxes will be releasing soon.
How does Nintendo get them to all go out en masse and buy a Wii2 without some new gimmick or technology?
What does Nintendo do?
Zoe said:The Slim doesn't introduce any of the fragmentation like the iPhone 3Gs or 4G does, which is what he was proposing.
AndyD said:new game portable. its a temporary name.
H_Prestige said:I know that. I'm saying the iphone 4 didn't cause any fragmentation in the iphone app market. The 3GS continues to run all the apps even when they are optimized for the iphone 4 retina display.
I loved how they claimed it doesn't stand for that anymore despite keeping the initials, moronic.OldJadedGamer said:Let's hope so but after all... everyone thought "Massive Action Game" was a temp name too.
StuBurns said:I loved how they claimed it doesn't stand for that anymore despite keeping the initials, moronic.
There's no way the system will be NGP, not only does that mean NeoGeo Pocket, Not Good, it also doesn't play off the PlayStation brand and as much as GAF likes to pretend, the PSP has sold incredibly well, the name has value, and massive value in Japan.
Maybe it'll be something other than PSP2, but it won't be NGP.
lorddct said:If they ever make a PS4 I hope they find a way to integrate the NGP with it.
I think games like clue, madden and everything would be more fun for local multiplayer if you have that option.
So for Madden.
Playbook selection is on the NGP so you can share with your friends what play we will run, and if there isn't it uses the screen to use.
Or For a board game like clue. So each player has there own touchscreen paper that they can mark what they have seen and everything like that.
I think something like this would greatly help the multiplayer party games for the next PS which PS3 really lacks on.
Sipowicz said:but the psp doesn't sell well outside of japan, and that's where the money is
More than fifty million units isn't good sales outside of Japan?Sipowicz said:but the psp doesn't sell well outside of japan, and that's where the money is
StuBurns said:More than fifty million units isn't good sales outside of Japan?
When you say worst selling, you're ignore PS3 and 360? PSP has sold more than both so far.Sipowicz said:yeah, maybe at the start when it was hot shit. i dont think being called the psp2 is going to do it any favours these days
calling it psp2 would associate with the worst selling console of this gen and the (unfairly) maligned psp that gets constatntly dissed by all the "games journalists" and sells badly in the west
now is not the time for them to be playing it safe with the name. they need to call it something mad, at the very least outside of japan
Sipowicz said:yeah, maybe at the start when it was hot shit. i dont think being called the psp2 is going to do it any favours these days
calling it psp2 would associate with the worst selling console of this gen and the (unfairly) maligned psp that gets constatntly dissed by all the "games journalists" and sells badly in the west
now is not the time for them to be playing it safe with the name. they need to call it something mad, at the very least outside of japan
StuBurns said:When you say worst selling, you're ignore PS3 and 360? PSP has sold more than both so far.
BritBloke916 said:Your 4 year old computer came with a Blu-Ray disk drive? Nice!
kuroshiki said:Sony is not stupid enough to cause market fragmentation like that. Won't happen.
Vinci said:I just want more local multiplayer gaming next generation. I'm cool with online and all, but it would be nice to have more variety and options for people to hang out and play with.
Cell, or more accurately, the lack of an automatically managed coherent cache. Look back on the architecture 10 years from now and you'll see just how far ahead it was.Gorgon said:What exactely made the PS3 ahead of it's time?
Zoe said:They run them like shit though. Can barely run the stock OS apps on the bf's 3G anymore.
It would likely be easier to port stuff to than the NGP and PS3.Takao said:For PC, yes, I simply forgot about it since it has no real relevance to me, but is a viable platform for third parties. For WiiHD I think it would be a sentiment shared with third parties. The studios will have been developing for the other platforms for so long that any different hardware would likely make it a poisonous wasteland for things when you consider the amount of consoles Microsoft and Sony will has sold by that point.
jonnybryce said:Seriously. My mother, who isn't picky at all, now hates her iPhone 3G because it is so slow. This strategy isn't flawless. Sony should be smart.
mrklaw said:You see that chart all over the place
Assuming it is correct, 1080p would be enough for 100" screens. That's around the sweet spot for front projection. 120"+ Is heavy duty enthusiast and I'd argue the numbers are too small to support a new format
ISF states the the most important aspects of picture quality are (in order): 1) contrast ratio, 2) color saturation, 3) color accuracy, 4) resolution.
What HDMI 1.3 provided over 1.2
Higher resolutions up to 1440 And HDMI 1.4 adds 4K and 3-D
Higher framerates up to 120Hz
In terms of audio, HDMI 1.3 adds additional support for new, lossless compressed digital audio formats Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio
HDMI 1.3 supports 30-bit, 36-bit and 48-bit (RGB or YCbCr 4:4:4) color depths, up from the 24-bit depths in previous versions of the HDMI specification.
By implementing the xvYCC color space standard, HDMI 1.3 removes virtually all limits on color selection and supports 1.8 times as many colors as existing HDTV signals. This is because the xvYCC color space standard defines colors by means of an algorithm that can specify any color in nature. This lets HDTVs display colors more accurately and with more natural and vivid colors. The first TV to use this standard was the Sony Bravia, which premiered at the 2006 CES in Las Vegas.
According to announcements by manufacturers, new high-definition DVD formats (HD-DVD and Blu-ray) and game machines (including the Sony PLAYSTATION® 3) will make use of capabilities added in HDMI 1.3.
Almost any digital photographer or audio engineer can tell you that it's always easier, and usually better, to start out with more resolution than needed and then resample down if necessary. So, a 4K source will look better sampled down to 1080p HDTV than direct 1080p HD video.
Thruway said:Slimmer Profile
8X Bluray
1 TB HD
1 Gig Ram
Upgraded GPU (2X powerful than the current one)
$299
Fall 2011 or Early 2012
Durante said:Cell, or more accurately, the lack of an automatically managed coherent cache. Look back on the architecture 10 years from now and you'll see just how far ahead it was.
For many HPC workloads it still achieves better performance/transistor than anything else out there.
Whether that makes it a great chip for a game console in 2006 is, of course, debatable.
patsu said:(with editing) The ability for general purpose SPEs and GPU to work seamlessly together acting like an internally firmware programmable GPU would not be possible with other GPU packages. It's pretty forward thinking. See MLAA.
Commanche Raisin Toast said:trying my hardest to think of why a PS3.5 would make sense. as said before, it's going to fragment the market needlessly.
reduction in size, power consumption, etc. is all awesome and i'm for it, but introducing a PS3 that can do things older PS3's can't? we've already gone through the opposite. [see: BC in original units]
mr_toa said:+1 don't go there Sony! Anyone has some success stories about Console producers delivering mid-term upgrades to their core product enhancing specs?
First thing I thought when Sony announced the NGP, was that they just needed to add HDMI output, ability to link to a DS3 via Bluetooth (as the PSPgo) and Id be one happy camper never to buy a home console again. So yes, the PS3&NGP combination could very likely be Sonys PS4
Zaptruder said:Given that 1080p provides optimum viewing from 10-11 feet away for a 110" screen...
I find it hard to fathom how much benefit a 4k resolution system can provide.
It's like speaker manufacturers trying to sell their stuff on the basis of 'now capable of reproducing signal frequencies up to 50,000 Hz accurately.'
More people are served by upgrading their glass perscriptions than by getting more resolution.
jeff_rigby said:The reason for "reproducing signal frequencies up to 50,000 Hz accurately." is that you can be sure that the low frequencies we can feel and not hear all the way up to the maximum that we can hear are in a linear fully supported range. Going off to either end beyond what we can hear insures this. The same applies to video.