Wouldn't count it. It is their way to differentiate from the competition.
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Sony to cut TV, Smartphone lineup; sees growth in PlayStation, image sensors
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Wouldn't count it. It is their way to differentiate from the competition.
Sony is not growing anymore, and if the tv and phones are cut then they will only have PS4, image sensor and life insurance really.
The PS4 does not make enough profit for them and if Apple, etc decide to make thier own sensor then they are really in trouble.
geordiemp
Member
Yup, W900 series from 2013 had good black panel. http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sony-kdl55w905a-201305172987.htm
In 2014 they released W955
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kdl55w955b-201403103661.htm
They changed the panel just for this model (god knows why)
So their BEST model 1080p TV in 2014 they gave the worst panel to....I am surprised how crazy that is...
Yes the W8 is the best gaming TV they have in 2014
Always thought zomg was a lady..
Anyway, I like the Sony phones, the build quality in them is outstanding, the things I have done to my xperia Z...but it doesn't have a single scratch as for the TV, that may be a lost cause unless the prices come down...waaaaaaaaaaaay down.
all in all, Sony make the best quality products in their respective markets, in build and design, but they are too pricey, they need to find the sweet spot between luxury and affordability, its why the PS4 is doing so well. The fact that they didn't know that is the most worrying stat of all
Superior product being hammered by cheaper one, that's a very familiar story.
It's bound to be happened since TV is a mass audience market, not enthusiast like camera does so quality doesn't mean jackshit.
Their inability to market that their TVs is the best for gaming also contributed a lot to their failure.
Recent industry fanfiction by Polygon
There is the rumor that LG G4 will use their sensors, but LG also wants to use their own stuff more.
According to this report they are not cutting TV and mobile divisions completely, it will be just less.
They didn't say they would slash their whole mobile and tv business units, you know?
Deadly Joker
Member
What about Sony Pictures? Do they not make money?
For Sony the fanwank would be Apple.
I Agree regards the price, but please don't talk about quality.. and i'm a 3500 TV Samsung Owner
I said "if"
You are right, they made a profit this year from Spiderman 2, but they also got hack this week.
Yep, agreed. I got a KDL 65W850A just last week. 65" and 18ms response time. That's tough to beat.
It depends. New Bond or Spiderman out? Profit. The rest? Well, yeah. Their biggest problem is they lack their missing own successful IP, because of that, they miss out on lots of merchandise money.
Just look at Disney or 20th Century Fox.
A recent dearth of announcements for that platform kind of says otherwise.
SliceSabre
Banned
So they're gonna push hard for Playstation to make them money? Wonder how that's gonna look.
Sad news for their TVs though, I've always been a fan of Sony tvs as the best ones I've ever owned were either them or Samsung.
Sad news for their TVs though, I've always been a fan of Sony tvs as the best ones I've ever owned were either them or Samsung.
Ashad Mamood
Banned
Quality wise? Never had a Sony TV fail on me yet in 30 years!
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
Because I have had other TVs. Lots. But those three are the main ones that are used heavily for gaming, movies, television, etc. My Sony Bravia was an okay TV, but the image quality was nowhere near the Samsung, and it had pretty bad input lag for games that required precise timing. Playing Mega Man 9 on it in my bedroom was a nightmare.
AgentChris
Member
Should have done this 2 years ago, but I love the focus on PS. Bring me dem games Kaz.
I think they should give up on their mobile division. I don't really see that as a place where they can turn worthwhile profits without chasing market share. I still think they can continue being a major player in televisions--and they do make some good sets--but they need to offer more affordable entry-level models and a more cohesive lineup, overall. A lot of people want to buy Sony, even if they're just paying for the logo.
I think Sony should consolidate their hardware markets to: games, displays, and cameras.
I think Sony should consolidate their hardware markets to: games, displays, and cameras.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Well, having 2 flagships a year is not that smart. 1 flagship a year, with two models (normal and compact), lowering your low-mid range offerings would be better. Don't finish that range offering, just lower the quantity available.
And price them accordingly! The Xperia M2, for instance, was priced a little higher than the Moto G (f.e.) while having inferior specs. The M2 is a really good phone (I'm looking to buy the Aqua one) but asking 50 more for a product that's inferior... of course you won't sell.
And price them accordingly! The Xperia M2, for instance, was priced a little higher than the Moto G (f.e.) while having inferior specs. The M2 is a really good phone (I'm looking to buy the Aqua one) but asking 50 more for a product that's inferior... of course you won't sell.
I know it's a risk, but they need to pump more money into advertising like Samsung did when they saturated the market. As much as we want to believe that it's the quality of a product, history tells us that advertising had as much or greater influence than a product does sadly.
I agree, but I don't think they should dump it. TVs are a large part of Sony's legacy and to dump them may leave them as a forgotten player in hardware in many consumer's eyes. They've just made a multimillion dollar investment in bringing their Sony Experience pads to Best Buys, and I think they should ride the wave of their investments in the market for at least a little while.
It is funny how some of you guys are genuinely offended. And breh, LG, HTC, Apple, Huawei and Co can all compete quality wise.
Yup. I have seen zero ads for Xperia phones after Z3 Compact got released. And the only ad I saw before that was a countdown timer for its release here on Gaf.
They're facing tonnes of competition in all ranges and have a limited presence in a market as big as the US.
I'm pretty grateful for services like Bravia Sync which integrates my TV nicely with the PS3 and the PS4. It's a luxury that only Sony can offer right now, I guess.
The 50" is definitely big enough for our living room, but the tiny GUI on some PS4 games is making me grateful we have something this big.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
People are still falling for Chinner´s posts. Lol.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Downsize your weaker brands and allocate more capital to your stronger brands.
Let's see your Playstation brand grow.
The PS brand could use a nice cash injection.
Let's see your Playstation brand grow.
The PS brand could use a nice cash injection.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Im guessing this means they are giing to be investung more in PSN and the IGC. Fine by me.
Miss me with the other shit.
Miss me with the other shit.
unfortunately, this is the right move for Sony. I love their TV's and the phones look nice, but they havn't had a hold on that market for a while. PS4 is taking off and there is no better time than now to capitalize on that and focus on a winning product. Sony as a whole needs PlayStation more than ever, glad they are treating it so.
Didn't Sony recently say there were doubling down on 4K tvs? Which IMO are still a couple years out from a price point of mass adoption. I don't think Sony really has the perceived lead in quality in TV sets any more, or it doesn't matter. Look at the rise of Vizio and Samsung in the market. To me Sony TVs just are more expensive for no discernible reason besides them holding on the a long lost brand reputation.
AgentChris
Member
I wonder if Sony would acquire or create new studios are just double down on their top studios [ND, SSM, Mm, PD]. Also this can lead to them snapping up some 3rd party exclusives.
Giving how relatively poor their handling of their non-american studios is... wouldn't expect it.
joecanada
Member
yes they will keep making them maybe just less models, etc...
they are the best for gaming, whoever said samsung doesn't look at specs only the cheap price they paid...
also xperia phones are the best.. have a Z1 and it gets double the use of my PC ...plus waterproof lol
lol what does that have to do with profit ?
RukusProvider
Banned
So if the PS5 becomes a PS3 level disaster, they company is effectively done?
By that time, I expect Apple to have their own image sensors also.
By that time, I expect Apple to have their own image sensors also.
Sony is becoming less and less a household name and dropping TV or mobile will only leave PS4 in the typical household. This is not good at all for them. I am not sure how they can start rebuilding the brand.
I already said they made a profit, the hacking incident will cost them money obviously.