BrokenEchelon
Banned
That $15/month MMO they're rebooting because it was so terrible should bring in massive profits at the ass end of 2013, which is a prime time for $15/month MMOs.
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Square Enix Q1 FY2014: Extraordinary loss, lists social/mobile/browser/MMO success
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I think it will be very difficult for Lighting Returns to miss 1M worldwide. Even with it's huge drop from the first game, XIII-2 sold ~900k to customers in Japan alone. I don't really think we will see a huge drop off from XIII-2. People know what they are in for. Shipments will be lower since FF13-2 had some channel stuffing going on, but there are over 1M fans who will eat up another FF13 sequel.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
They'll totally make all of this back in the 6 months between release and F2P for FF XIV, right? I mean, throwing hundreds of millions of dollars and all of your best talent at a game that no one asked for couldn't possibly backfire.
dragonflys545
Member
I have a feeling both Lightning returns and FF14 is gonna bomba.
Boob physics ain't cheap.
R10Neymarfan
Member
If Square defaults what would happen to their moneymakers? I swear if this company goes down before KH3 I will freak.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
Just don't go defunct before I play FFXV.
You all brought this on yourself SE.
You all brought this on yourself SE.
Lambda Pie
Banned
15 is gonna be the last mainline FF on consoles, book it.
Apparently sources indicate that the 1.6 billion yen loss is related to the cancellation of the following titles which were in production or pre-production:
Chrono Break
Star Ocean 5
Valkyrie Profile 3
Final Fantasy Tactics 2
New Secret of Mana
Final Fantasy Type-0 International
Chrono Break
Star Ocean 5
Valkyrie Profile 3
Final Fantasy Tactics 2
New Secret of Mana
Final Fantasy Type-0 International
Don't hurt me Negator, I couldn't help it! >_<
You're a horrible person and should stand in the corner for it.
It's fine. Square-Enix is a company after all. Those games wouldn't have made any money.
demosthenes
Member
An extraordinary loss is supposed to be outside your normal business and not repeat year to year. There are rules what you can call extraordinary and what not.
Not sure what currency you're using, but its only 15 million in USD
Razgriz-Specter
Member
And then they try to start pumping out remakes of the older more popular games.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
With the current course of events, they will go down.
Question what will happen to people like Nomura and their IPs.
Question what will happen to people like Nomura and their IPs.
Omegasquash
Member
SE needs to do some serious restructuring, and come to terms with the fact that people don't like their games as much as they used to.
Wyndstryker
Member
You know how many people want to hurt you after reading that lol.
Dancing Mad will sound like it was created with a Fisher-Price toy.Holy shit don't make me vomit
Chittagong
Gold Member
I really don't understand how something can be discovered during review of projects that would qualify as "extraordinary loss" and that good be booked in a P/L statement.
It would require that an unexpected cost has in fact occurred. For example, a rogue project manager ordering goods worth of $150 million without authorisation, or stolen IP that resulted in an onetime payment for the infringement. Those would be actual, extraordinary losses outside the normal operations.
What this sounds like is a "write down of goodwill" which would then be booked at loss, but I don't think ongoing game projects should even enter a balance sheet?
Maybe the killed brands and wrote off their valuations?
It would require that an unexpected cost has in fact occurred. For example, a rogue project manager ordering goods worth of $150 million without authorisation, or stolen IP that resulted in an onetime payment for the infringement. Those would be actual, extraordinary losses outside the normal operations.
What this sounds like is a "write down of goodwill" which would then be booked at loss, but I don't think ongoing game projects should even enter a balance sheet?
Maybe the killed brands and wrote off their valuations?
FlashbladeGAF
Member
The amount of money you would have made....
(If by some miracle more than half of these turned out good)
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I read this as long term failure flop and short term mobile success.
While in a way I am sad that certain projects may have been canned and may never see the light of day, in a way I am quite pleased things are coming back to bite them in the ass for their mediocre and asinine attempts to keep themselves up and running.
Rely on your tentpole franchises forever and they will eventually stagnate, rot and decay and shall further cement your fall into obscurity. Square Enix believed they were all that but they have forgotten or left behind the all thatness that they used to be.
But fear not. iOS games and Tablets will save the day as mobile output exponentially increases so much to the point it appears console output will in turn exponentially decrease.
But this is why Monolithsoft exists. They make good RPG's whereas others simply no longer are able to. Granted Square gets lucky every now and then but the excessive otaku pandering will only get you so far.
At the very least I might get a shoddy SE and Tecmo Koei collab effort and finally get FF Musou.
While in a way I am sad that certain projects may have been canned and may never see the light of day, in a way I am quite pleased things are coming back to bite them in the ass for their mediocre and asinine attempts to keep themselves up and running.
Rely on your tentpole franchises forever and they will eventually stagnate, rot and decay and shall further cement your fall into obscurity. Square Enix believed they were all that but they have forgotten or left behind the all thatness that they used to be.
But fear not. iOS games and Tablets will save the day as mobile output exponentially increases so much to the point it appears console output will in turn exponentially decrease.
But this is why Monolithsoft exists. They make good RPG's whereas others simply no longer are able to. Granted Square gets lucky every now and then but the excessive otaku pandering will only get you so far.
At the very least I might get a shoddy SE and Tecmo Koei collab effort and finally get FF Musou.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Last quarter they had "Extraordinary losses" of over 134 million dollars. This quarter they've had yet another quarter of "Extraordinary losses" of over 16 million dollars. Hence over 150 million in two quarters.
I feel like this has a high possibility of happening.
Thought they would have tried to get FF14 ps4 ver out much sooner. How many subs do they need to make this whole thing worthwhile?
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
shinobi602
Member
Can't say they didn't have what's coming to them.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
You forgot to put in Dragon Quest 7 3DS localization on the list.
badcrumble
Member
Ducky, this would be a better troll if it didn't include Star Ocean and Seiken Densetsu. Nobody wants those franchises anymore, they've turned to crap, lol.
Don't worry, they will come back as social/Mobile games eventually.
I hope we do. FFV & FFVI 3D remakes on 3DS would be nice. I agree that Square-Enix obsess over FFIV a whole lot.
I bought the import of Final Fantasy Type-0 and I'm patiently waiting for the fan translation to complete, so no worries there.
witchedwiz
Member
what about ff:agito?
it's completed you just need to translate it..
it's completed you just need to translate it..
Vyse The Legend
Member
Huh? Eidos is the only part of the company doing anything worthwhile at this point. If they didn't have Eidos, they'd truly be fucked.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Mashin Haters
Member
i predict that FF Lightning Returns and 14 are going to bomb so hard that they will have to cancel 15 and KH 3 or delay for another 5 years.
LowParry
Member
Nightstick11
Banned
Square needs to stop going on adventures. No fucking hel FFXIV ever turns a profit. You had DQX... why do you need a second MMORPG?
Square needs to focus on only four platforms: 3DS (bulk), PS3, Wii U (ports), mobile. Make Final Fantasy exclusive again and stop pimping it out. Microsoft can get ports of your western games. No more grand adventures.
Square needs to focus on only four platforms: 3DS (bulk), PS3, Wii U (ports), mobile. Make Final Fantasy exclusive again and stop pimping it out. Microsoft can get ports of your western games. No more grand adventures.