Aztechnology
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It's always nice to find something for the first time so close to a follow up. I've been waiting basically half my life for a sequel
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Starbreeze to publish Psychonauts 2, investing $8 million, releasing 2018
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It's always nice to find something for the first time so close to a follow up. I've been waiting basically half my life for a sequel
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Nerdkiller
Membeur
Is there really no plans for a physical release?
As the movie-quote-turned-saying goes: You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become EA.
Im sure there will be, but the game is still at least a year out, no need to announce the plans for that atm
Yes that's what I said.
McCoolName
Neo Member
As someone who really loved the first one I cannot be more happy right now. It wouldn't be the first time Double Fine hurts my feelings, but I mean, it's Psychonauts, they can't mess that up, right?
Isn't 8 million the same amount they invested in Lion Game Lion's RAID: World War 2?
EDIT: (it is)
Not at all. The deal is that they get 85% of what's left AFTER the investors and platform holder cuts, until their 8 million is paid off, and then they get 60% after that.
Sounds like kind of a crappy deal to me, but yeah, the fig investors are already taken care of in the deal.
EDIT: (it is)
Not at all. The deal is that they get 85% of what's left AFTER the investors and platform holder cuts, until their 8 million is paid off, and then they get 60% after that.
Sounds like kind of a crappy deal to me, but yeah, the fig investors are already taken care of in the deal.
DangerMouse
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CecilRousso
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Corleth the Fey
Member
Wow. Looking really good. There's so much modern graphics techniques can do for this - until recently - almost abandoned genre of 3D platformers. I hope the renaissance turns into sales for those brave individuals funding and creating these games.
I looked in to helping fund it on Fig - but I just came away confused. But assuredly my intension was and very much still is, to buy on day one.
I looked in to helping fund it on Fig - but I just came away confused. But assuredly my intension was and very much still is, to buy on day one.
Taken care of is a bit of a stretch. It's clearly stacked against fig investors.
rottendevice
Member
Crowdfunding is the best thing to happen to games in five years. This game could have never gotten a publisher without it. I loved the first Psychonauts.
It's great that we're getting these mid-tier games. Not quite AAA. More like AA.
It's great that we're getting these mid-tier games. Not quite AAA. More like AA.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Thank you Vin Diesel for creating Starbreeze
Vin is such a cool dude
sixteen-bit
Member
Thanks Vin
bishopcruz
Member
Looks like Starbreeze will be next in the line of publishers who regret working with Tim Schafer. I really like the man's game's but he clearly cannot keep a budget or schedule to save his life.
nuttyevans
Member
Starbreeze is cool. Psychonauts 2 will be cool.
Notch should have paid for the whole lot and it could have been called "Notch presents Psychonauts 2".
Notch should have paid for the whole lot and it could have been called "Notch presents Psychonauts 2".
This is looking like it's on track to hit its 2018 mark, this is preproduction and it already looks amazing
FirmBizBws
Becomes baffled, curling up into a ball when confronted with three controller options.
Wonder why they think they will get their money back from this investment
Absoludacrous
Member
Nobody actually believes this, right?
There's value in seeing how known (or in this case, unknown) something is.
CecilRousso
Member
Sony doesn't seem to mind working with them, considering they're up to four projects with them in the last couple of years, two released, one releasing this month, and another later this year, so I'm not sure that what you're reaching after there is a given.
there was a new trailer about a week ago. the vr game is comming on february 21
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1339114
petethepanda
Member
Definitely the right call to make updates/videos public this time around. It was such a bummer to see Broken Age get so much shit when the backer updates and the documentary addressed literally everything people were freaking out about.
I keep forgetting Rhombus of Ruin is so soon!
I keep forgetting Rhombus of Ruin is so soon!
This looks really good even with it still being so far out! Nice!
He's still cool, but it was Tigon he funded right?
bishopcruz
Member
It looks really nice, I really want to see the finished product. But I'll believe a Schafer title will ship on time when it actually happens. EVERY big title they have released has been delayed at least once, often for far longer than that. Tim is damned creative, and I like his stuff a LOT (I adore both Psychonauts and Brutal Legend) but I have, based on previous performance absolutely NO faith that he'll release this on time. The man took 3 years to release a point and click adventure, and ran out of money halfway through even though he got nearly 10 times the funding he initially asked for. Brutal Legend was late, Psychonauts was so late it lost its original publisher. DF is generally great at releasing smaller games on time, but a Schafer title? No way.
I thought the remasters were self published, just with Sony doing their standard support. Also, I have trouble believing that even DF could screw up a remaster.
Are you really just saying that before of Broken Age and Spacebase DF9 ??? Seriously? Just because one kickstarter game was delayed and release in two parts doesn't mean every other projects they would work on will be bad. Seriously they are wayyy better than a company like the one that made Mighty No.9.
If you have watched the documentary, you would have see that they didn't planned for Broken Age to be this big, originally, they thought it would be just a small project. Also, it was their first ever game without a publisher, they have to rework how they approche the game because they had to learn what a publisher would do.
I can't believe people are still sour over that.
freeofgreed
Member
Wow this looks amazing
Good god. Into my veins.
Doesn't sound like we'll be getting a physical copy.
I was hoping for a Psychonauts 2 pack to be honest. But would have settled for a a physical copy of just 2.
I'm willing to bet that they'll work out something with Limited Run Games.
CecilRousso
Member
Nope, DF and Sony started to seek the rights to them at the same time, and Sony solved the legal problems and acted as the publishers.
If you're curious about the amount of work DF put into to the remasters, they're some pretty good short documentaries about them on youtube. You should be able to find them quickly if you're really interested in this subject.
Started to comment on the rest of your post that was the answer to wwm0nkey, but you don't strike me as a fellow interested in details or facts, so I'm opting out of that.
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
That Payday 2 microtransaction money...
bishopcruz
Member
Oh come on. I love DF games (well I just like BA) and I've been a fan of Schafer since his LucasFilm Games days. He is a great creative guy and all, but let's be real. Psychonauts took 5 years to make, lost one publisher then moved to another, Brutal Legend shipped 17 months late. Broken Age, (and I have seen the damned documentary) had problems because clearly Tim didn't have much of a plan or idea going in, and it shows. He didn't budget for the money he had, and had to do a split early release to get the game finished.
Hell even Grim Fandango was half a year late, and that was with cutting a bunch of story and puzzles at the end. Schafer has worked with 5 major publishers on his personal projects since DoubleFine launched. They were dropped by 2 of them before the games released. When those games were eventually picked up by other publishers, they both flopped, Psychonauts made Majesco get out of the AAA game business altogether, and Brutal Legend was a big loss of Activision. Even in this very thread people doubt that this game will make money for Starbreeze, and based on Tim's history I think that isn't an unfair prediction.
I think Psychonauts 2 will be good. Or at the very least I hope it will be, but Schafer has given me no reason to believe that he can release an original game that he is directing on time or on budget. It's one of the reasons that I didn't fund Psychonauts 2 after I funded Broken Age.
And btw, Sony assisted but the remasters are published by Doublefine themselves.
Brutal Legend's issues weren't directly because of Schafer though. A lot of that seemed like EA not knowing what to do with the game after they acquired it.
bishopcruz
Member
If you read the postmortem on Brutal Legend there were a ton of problems and it wasn't Activision or EA's fault. They had issues with not hadnling middleware well, had massive feature creep, and didn't staff correctly. You can kind of see that in the game itself, the last half seems barren compared to the early part of the game. The legal battles didn't help, but a majority of the pain in the development of Brutal Legend was self inflicted.
Edit: Ok, that's not entirely fair, the lawsuit coming when it did in the dev cycle surely hurt. But that still doesn't excuse the other problems.