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Super Mario 64 DS rated for the North American Wii U Virtual Console
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SatoAilDarko
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The slide pad on 3DS definitely improved control in the game and I assume a full joystick will be even better.
May double dip.
May double dip.
I wonder how it will play. I tried it on 3DS VC and it was (IMO) not fun to control. The crux of OG 64 is its controls and since I never had access to the touchpad analog dealio, my only experience with 64 DS is using the 3DS controls and finding it really difficult to control.
(Just saw the .neogaf moment above me -- no disrespect at all to you, Sato, just had a different experience. Perhaps I didn't give it enough of a chance.)
(Just saw the .neogaf moment above me -- no disrespect at all to you, Sato, just had a different experience. Perhaps I didn't give it enough of a chance.)
I don't know about you guys, but I am pretty pumped for that Sort-or-'Splode minigame.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about!
Some people love it, some people hate it, but the extra characters you can swap between added a little depth and helped justify some changes in puzzle elements in the game. It was fun, but I don't know if it would be considered "better" than the original. I enjoyed it and all of its differences, but didn't feel like the fresher experience added anything to what was already there.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about!
Some people love it, some people hate it, but the extra characters you can swap between added a little depth and helped justify some changes in puzzle elements in the game. It was fun, but I don't know if it would be considered "better" than the original. I enjoyed it and all of its differences, but didn't feel like the fresher experience added anything to what was already there.
Opinions vary on it. Some find it better due to different controls, playable characters and additional missions.
The same minigames are all in NSMB, right? Just wasn't sure if that game was missing any.
It isn't, but it has more playable characters and a few new but smaller levels.
Also those rad touchscreen minigames.
tim_pkmn89
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I wouldn't say it's necessarily better, but for a remake, it's quite a bit different. (In an enjoyable, new experience type of way)
Sapiens
Member
Yeah - I remember being so addicted to it - even if I had to use the thumb pad to control it.
mrmickfran
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Not a big fan of Mario 64 in general, but even lesser of a fan for DS.
I had the wrong minigame in mind. Changed it from Bob-Omb Squad to Sort-or-'Splode - but yes, both are in NSMB.
James Scott
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Maybe mapping the run button to one of the triggers would work out better than B. Mario 64 on Wii U is really good so I might consider it
spookyfish
Member
Will absolutely double dip.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
Member
The controls will be improved from the way I played it on OG DS with that thumbstick thingie. Might get it to play it with a stick.
Graphics Horse
Member
Can the emulated versions input the virtual analog screen stick inputs with a real one? Doesn't seem like such a tall order?
People saying run button implies not
People saying run button implies not
Still the fact that you need to press run button...
Ok, cool. I gotta check out more of those. I remember I liked the card matching one. Thank you!
Agreed! But, it seems significant changes like that are rarely made to VC games. Only light gun games, SMA4 and maybe N64 framerate changes come to mind.
StrangeRoboMemory
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I love Mario 64 very much, but this version leaves me cold.
CrAzY FiNgErS
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I forget if the DS offers filtering options? This thing is going to probably look jaggy as all get out on the big screen. Of course the original N64 version isn't jaggy on Wii U but still too dark.
Keyser Soze
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Super Mario 64 DS may as well be a pack in, cause Sort or 'Splode is the world's greatest game
Simbabbad
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Exactly like the VC EU version on Wii U, meaning exactly like on DS, except you can't reasonably use the touch screen with a thumb stylus.
Sure, there is a stick on Wii U, but controls still aren't analog and are strictly 8 directional.
They could have used emulation tricks to map the analog stick to the code handling the touch screen, but they didn't.
They do, I have Donkey Kong Jungle Climber and it looks good filtered (but it isn't 3D).
They could, they didn't on the EU VC, they won't on the NA VC.
I'd like to see a remake of Mario 64. The DS remake has worse textures, worse sound, blockier characters, and digital controls (despite the original game being the poster child for analog controls).
I don't know of anyone on Earth who would like the DS version better because of controls off all things.
I don't know of anyone on Earth who would like the DS version better because of controls off all things.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Which DS game had the better mini-game collection? This or NSMB?
Get that one and pair it with SM64.
Get that one and pair it with SM64.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
What is the resolution for the EU version like? It's not just a DS game blown up for a 1080p screen I'm hoping?
Ah, I forgot it was already out on EU VC. Thanks for the info. That is unfortunate.
I personally agree on both counts, but some prefer the DS version for that reason.
They're identical, so, they should get NSMB, which is a very good game, and then if they get SM64 they will have two very good games.
(Edit: I'm wrong, sorry-- see below)
I know for a fact this has minigames that NSMB doesn't, like the pachinko minigames. I'm pretty sure it's vice versa and that NSMB has a better multiplayer minigame selection.
So no, they are NOT the same.
The original has aged like a corpse visually, the DS version looks far better.
Oh. I was mistaken, then. Are those worth the price of admission alone, though?
Sir_Crocodile
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If they give the VC version analogue controls, I will buy it
If I have to hold down a button to run, no chance
If I have to hold down a button to run, no chance
Spoilers:
You won't be buying it.
P.S. Here's something I don't understand about the DS game. Why was the default walk speed *without* holding the button so criminally slow?
If an emulator can give the DS game texture filtering, I think it can look really nice; but as-is it is an eye-sore. It even has less saturation than the original.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Oh, NA release. I forgot this is already out.
I think they were expecting everyone to use the thumbstrap, which is the best way of playing the game on the DS.
If they'd really given it thought, holding down a button would have been walk and no button would have been fastest speed, since you rarely need anything else in SM64DS.
That would have made more sense to me, also. It's counterintuitive for usually walk/run controls but it would have worked here. The thumbstrap is a bit short-sighted also. I believe you all that it rocks but so many play these evergreen sellers in the aftermarket or later printings that IIRC didn't include the thumbstrap (or was it just the DS itself that contained it originally?) so it seems odd to me to make the more enjoyable controls so contingent on that.
Sir_Crocodile
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The thumbstrap was part of the original fat DS, so it's not really a case of being short-sighted.
Simbabbad
Member
It is, but there is a filter that does smooth things out.
As with every VC title and digital Wii version in the universe, Because NOA.
Was it attached to the system?
It could be
This game in particular because this is the most "Nintendo" game you can get. An in-house remake of a Nintendo game. It's not like they have trouble getting licensing to sell it.
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