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You should ask if anyone here has been gifted one and is happy with itIs there anyone here that actually paid $300, owns this machine, and is NOT happy with it?
You should ask if anyone here has been gifted one and is happy with itIs there anyone here that actually paid $300, owns this machine, and is NOT happy with it?
I think people forget the fact that these games are still running on last gen game engines.The last few games I played, like Scarlet Nexus, Psychonauts 2 are 1440p/60 on S. Forza 5 is too, provided you play 30fps. RE Village was 1440p/60 as well. I'd say its the same or more than actual native 4k PS5/XSX games.
Absolutely. Dolby Vision and VRR are in for example. Next to that there is Atmos. These are things my PS5 still won't pull off.
I think some people forget how myopic a hive-minded ivory tower of gaming enthusiasts can become. Most of the world doesn't give a shit if a game uses a previous-gen or next-gen engine if the end product is pleasing to look at.I think people forget the fact that these games are still running on last gen game engines.
Most people are playing major graphical powerhouses ROBLOX and Minecraft.I think some people forget how myopic a hive-minded ivory tower of gaming enthusiasts can become. Most of the world doesn't give a shit if a game uses a previous-gen or next-gen engine if the end product is pleasing to look at.
You should ask if anyone here has been gifted one and is happy with it
Think hes referring to how future proof the Series S is,if it struggles with some last gen tech gamesI think some people forget how myopic a hive-minded ivory tower of gaming enthusiasts can become. Most of the world doesn't give a shit if a game uses a previous-gen or next-gen engine if the end product is pleasing to look at.
I bought it for a gift.Is there anyone here that actually paid $300, owns this machine, and is NOT happy with it?
From what I understand the Switch sold extremely well throughout the year. Sure BF sales do add to the platforms install base but the rest of the year matters as well. It's why it's important to look at the entire year to determine the health of the platform.
I bought it for a gift.
I think people forget the fact that these games are still running on last gen game engines.
This is the one of the major reasons why the series s I believe will have a better BF/Xmas increase than the other consoles. The prices point makes it a much better gift suggestion and impulse buy than the 499 consoles.
True... I think $500 for a gift for my nephew was kinda high and I think the xss is much more simplistic for his age.This is the one of the major reasons why the series s I believe will have a better BF/Xmas increase than the other consoles. The prices point makes it a much better gift suggestion and impulse buy than the 499 consoles.
Has he ever given an explanation for the times PS5 was in 2nd in the UK (or any analyst, for that matter) that had anything to do with other system offerings being out of stock? Because stock issues can affect any system at any time, even if as an average over time one system is more in stock (which by the way, != "just sitting on store shelves", which is what the term has taken on meaning-wise with some people) than the other.
Okay, and that doesn't make him an authority on the subject. He's one person with their opinion; another analyst could tell you the same fact but give a different supportive reason, whose you weigh more comes down to which perspective more closely aligns with your own. And again, would he use the "out of stock" reasoning WRT Switch or Series X if PS5 came in 1st place? Because any other time the PS5 has this year, very few people have actually levied it as other options being supply-constrained.
In fact, particularly WRT Xbox their concern-trolling begins with questioning if Xbox even has any demand. Double standards are at play here.
Because contextual use and motive of intent in stating a fact are even more important in cases than the fact itself. Why do you think "fake news" became a phenomenon?
Dude I haven't posted on a DF or VG Tech thing in months. In fact the only recent time I have was to tell people who were using early Elden Ring perf on the new systems to stop using it as a means of criticizing a console's design choices or try theorizing it's bottlenecks, because they were being very selective.
Otherwise I honestly am not following the tech comparison stuff anymore.
I'm not here to speak on behalf of other people so you kind of just wasted time quoting everyone who's been talking with you ITT aside from myself. As for the back-and-forth between you and I, there's no need for me to clarify anything previously said.
You have enough time to quote multiple folks, you probably have enough time to read what I posted more carefully to see what my main point of discussion in the thread has been.
Using a single tracking website to prove your point is like trying to use a single limited survey to back up a political theory. You have to cross-reference data from multiple sources (preferably including ones that can over blind spots data-wise of complements) before thinking you've got the silver bullet.
Because for starters, the line in the article mentioning it being a stock issue did not itself emphasize that as the main point of the article (and any loaded connotations it has taken on since have come from readers putting their own viewpoints on this). Secondly, ANYONE can assume that stock is going to play a factor when it comes to sales, you cannot sell what you do not have to sell.
This is true of EVERY industry, and EVERY good, so there is no reason to explicitly mention stock playing a part in Series S's sales when that should be assumed. The ONLY reason to insist on explicit mention of it, is if to signify that fact as having a much greater significance than usual, which inversely implies that the item in question saw a majority of its sales from factors other than its own merit(s).
...Which is why we have seen so many salty meltdowns around this discussion devolve into denigrating the Series S, or Xbox brand, in one way or another.
No one's trying to ignore it, the truth you don't want to accept is that it simply isn't an important or unique enough factor to mention.
Well that is most likely your own fault and maybe you should've structured your posts better, in a way where they didn't come off as doing the thing you feel they have been wrongly interpreted of.
I mean misinterpretation happens to all of us from time to time, but on topics like this you kind of have to admit you have a history of a certain "perspective" WRT a specific brand, that is going to follow you around when you make future posts regarding things of that same brand. And if so many people are making those "misinterpretations" of your posts here, maybe that's a sign that what I'm describing here isn't a one-off
True... I think $500 for a gift for my nephew was kinda high and I think the xss is much more simplistic for his age.
Well, it won't be opened until the end of December, so there's that.
It's smaller.How is the s more simplistic? It operates and plays the games the x does in exactly the same way, just at lower fidelity.
Most importantly, does he like it?
I bought it for a gift.
I wouldn't be satisfied with one like I was with my Xbox One X and I currently am with my XSX and my PS5.
From what I understand the Switch sold extremely well throughout the year. Sure BF sales do add to the platforms install base but the rest of the year matters as well. It's why it's important to look at the entire year to determine the health of the platform.
Now I'm going to stop you from saying that I've said this but I never said the XSS sold poorly. Only that it's the next gen system with the least amount of demand. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a failure though.
I tend to look at the overall picture instead of focusing on one specific point. But that's just me.
I already wasted enough time already. I'm done. There is nothing really to say when the facts speak for themselves.
I won't respond. There's nothing else to say. The things I said were based on facts. It's exactly what happened during that day and this is a thread about how all consoles performed during black friday.You're so lucky the GAF editor didn't auto-save my typed-up reply before I clicked the link to that thread in your post .
It's late, I'm out. But I'll re-type what had written, tomorrow.
Maybe.
Series S is a hot item.
Lul, even haters are buying it.
I dont know where I said they are the majority? I am just questioning your assertion that casual gamers are buying the xss because of 120 fps modes in Fortnite.
It’s a good idea in theory IMO. Even for next gen when the PS6 and next gen Xbox are targeting true 4k the Series S equivalent could target true 1440p. 1440p looks fine on a 4k display.As long as people are gaming on 1080p displays the XSS will make sense.
Ok. Just tell me for a fact, which console outsold all the others this black friday? No if's or but's... let the facts speak for themselves.I won't respond. There's nothing else to say. The things I said were based on facts. It's exactly what happened during that day and this is a thread about how all consoles performed during black friday.
That's it. Nothing more.
This is the one of the major reasons why the series s I believe will have a better BF/Xmas increase than the other consoles. The prices point makes it a much better gift suggestion and impulse buy than the 499 consoles.
I wasn't a hater, but I was not in the market for one. I was SO not in the market for one.
Oh, yeah. Annually I think there is no guarantee that the series s outsell the x, probably doesn't.You have a point there but the other two consoles can still outsell it due to the rest of the year sales. Plus I don't believe this supply situation will last forever so at some point it's possible to beat the XSS during BF.
Oh, yeah. Annually I think there is no guarantee that the series s outsell the x, probably doesn't.
I was just referring to the relative splits of each sku per month/period, that the series s I think will grow the most.
True... I think $500 for a gift for my nephew was kinda high and I think the xss is much more simplistic for his age.
You have a point there but the other two consoles can still outsell it due to the rest of the year sales. Plus I don't believe this supply situation will last forever so at some point it's possible to beat the XSS during BF.
Exact same OS, same controller, same setup etc. it’s not less simplistic than the series x.
At some point you’ll exhaust the hardcore fanbase, and then the more casual Market will choose between a $499 console and a $299 console that plays the same games.
You never know how it’ll pan out, tbh.
It's smaller.
Doesn't take physical media.
He didn't get it yet.
I see it the opposite way.having a smaller footprint makes it more functional, not more simplistic in my opinion. Not having a disk drive is more simplistic I guess..
I won't respond. There's nothing else to say. The things I said were based on facts. It's exactly what happened during that day and this is a thread about how all consoles performed during black friday.
That's it. Nothing more.
Ok. Just tell me for a fact, which console outsold all the others this black friday? No if's or but's... let the facts speak for themselves.
I have 1660Ti same game runs better on xss then on my pc.tested on 1024p resolution.How does a series s perform compared to like a 1660 or 1660 super?
I have 1660Ti same game runs better on xss then on my pc.tested on 1024p resolution.
That's what a lot of people hear have been saying all along but there's still others who refuse to acknowledge that.that’s pretty dang amazing when you think about it. 250 quid gets you a system that can perform to a similar level as that gpu.
what a little beast.
Ok. Just tell me for a fact, which console outsold all the others this black friday? No if's or but's... let the facts speak for themselves.
Your failure the entire time has not been bringing up a fact, it has been in the intent, motivation and purpose of bringing up the fact. Your intentions, to a lot of posters, are at best redundant. The fact in question was never lost upon the vast majority ITT.
Learn a little bit about statistical manipulation; here's a link. There is always an intent or purpose to referencing data, and weight to that reference. You're seemingly unaware of this.
That's it. Nothing more.
It's funny, isn't it? For someone who apparently just wants to talk facts, there is one glaring fact in this they simply can't state without throwing a bunch of asterisks into it.
People seem to be forgetting Microsoft distributed their systems to more markets globally at launch than Sony did.
Not that it takes away from PS5's strong launch here in America. However, context is always needed and some people are just conveniently forgetting that to gloat or troll or whatever. They're clinging onto consoles sold the same way a lot of them clung onto teraflops up until March.
I don't need to repeat myself and I'm not going to play games because you don't want to acknowledge stock issues. That's a problem you have to figure out.
There's no failure. People said it was an excuse as to why it sold better and I just posted the facts.
Are you always applying asterisks whenever a PS5 game performs better?
Dirt 5 performs better? You mentioned XB1X tools being behind.
Elden Ring performs better? You have to tell people that FromSoftware is more familiar with the PS4/5 and that's what it's running better.
You have a history of being really defensive when it comes to sales. Back in May, Xbox sold more than the PS5 and people were pointing out stock issues. People shared tweets by Christopher Dring from GamesIndustry.biz but you weren't happy because people weren't congratulating Xbox's victory.
When PlayStation 5 sold more consoles in the United States than the Xbox Series X|S.....you brought up stock issues.
NPD: PlayStation 5 has highest launch month for a hardware platform in U.S. history.
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A clear example of hypocrisy.
And yes, I'm actually done this time.
Tested on Borderlands 3 and PC settings all on high vs XSS version. On PC I'm missing some visuals from lighting and framerate is not that consistent on PC.that’s pretty dang amazing when you think about it. 250 quid gets you a system that can perform to a similar level as that gpu.
what a little beast.
The guy is still going with his nonsense?
Glad I stopped responding to him.
I do still see your comments though. It's not like I don't watch you.
Im gonna get you Spidey.
LOL