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The War Z: shady, misleading and false advertising.
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WOW if true.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
How this bypassed greenlight? Going by steam the developer and the publisher dosn't have any other game on the service....
blitzcloud
Banned
Respawning for 50GC aint THAT bad in terms of money, i believe.
$1 in the $10 purchase of GC means 140GC.
But it's something we should not be paying for.
Funny that the updates bring more zombies, that need like 20 hammer hits to die or so.
Deliberate, if you ask me.
I think 1 hour respawn timer was enough, when skill is involved. Remember you can keep playing your hardcore player slots as it doesn't matter if you delete them. The normal ones though, they have skill trees.
$1 in the $10 purchase of GC means 140GC.
But it's something we should not be paying for.
Funny that the updates bring more zombies, that need like 20 hammer hits to die or so.
Deliberate, if you ask me.
I think 1 hour respawn timer was enough, when skill is involved. Remember you can keep playing your hardcore player slots as it doesn't matter if you delete them. The normal ones though, they have skill trees.
This shit is unbelievable. HOW CAN ANYONE DEFEND THIS GAME?
Yes, I do actually remember them saying something about implementing this kind of system early on. One of the reasons I wanted nothing to do with any of this. Those that are actually surprised this shit is happening? Do your homework as a knowledgeable gamer (I assume you are if you're posting on NeoGAF). You have no one to blame but yourself really, for buying into this crap.
Holy shit! I've been following this thread from the sidelines watching this unfold I'm constantly amazed and amused by the sheer audacity of the developers. What's even more amusing is the people willing to defend them.
Wtf, Are you serious???
Messofanego
Banned
That literally made my jaw drop reading that.
MoonLightWave
Member
They forgot to change the name to The War Z Alpha.
Argh, I love zombie games but this is just wrong.
balladofwindfishes
Member
They've changed the storefront too. Now has the following:
it's still inaccurate
omg this is hilarious and the doubling down with the respawn timer. If people weren't spending real money buying this scam it'd almost be fun to just watch.
Valve should start giving refunds.
The thing is, they made no secret of their plans to do this. Sure, they didn't outline it in their upcoming features. In early talks though I do remember this respawn/buy-in system being planned for.
From day 1 WarZ has been invested in some sleazy business decisions. How no one saw all of this coming is beyond me honestly. The writing was on the wall and the developers made no effort to hide it.
blitzcloud
Banned
35 cents for a revive that takes 4 hours, when you have 5 character slots. Some of which can be hardcore.
Reviving a character means the character is played on normal and you want to continue gaining experience for it.
If all your "normal" characters are dead in the timeframe of the 4 hours, try to at least save one slot for hardcore.
I don't really see the fuss. The 24h initial timer was HELLA BIG.
Bottom line: deleting a hardcore character allows you to create a new one with the same name that can play instantly. Not to mention that skill trees don't exist yet. So yeah, the people who are making a fuss about it don't even have the game.
But my complaints right now:
Zombies hit for A LOT of damage
Take a lot of damage
There's lots of them.
Which is really going to end up with lots of dead characters by zombies.
Stitch
Gold Member
There's also a new Mod and he made his own rules and is deleting every negative thread.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/828925216556714932/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/828925216556714932/
jediyoshi
Member
You should check out what they do in war inc. A shooter where there are ammo supply crates throughout maps you need money to use
Aquamarine
Member
Really takes the "survival" out of the "survival horror," doesn't it?
Yep. These guys have a history of this. Again, fucking do your homework people before buying into something like this. You can't be shocked by this stuff. The average informed consumer? Sure. You guys? No. You should know better.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
is this the worst abuser of microtransactions now 
Thats exactly what i said and gave opinion in my post about this feature ...
And personally i didnt mind that [i wrote same under interview topic], because You can be revived anyway, just after some time [it was 24h at first] and it wont affect real mode = hardcore. I wouldnt mind the same feature in DayZ Standalone for normal if it would give them additional revenue.
Dont care about microtransaction stuff either as long as there is full drop pvp, same i wouldnt mind if they implemented that in DayZ. Noob with good gun or a lot of ammo is still noob that can be killed even with pistol.
This looks so bad. Wow so you are in fact paying for an alpha build missing most of the advertised features on the store page. You need to pay a 15$ entry price and then you need to buy in game currency to respawn quicker when you die (wait 4 hours or pay up)? It seems fairly ugly and buggy too.
I'm surprised this ended up on steam while games that aren't a scam are not able to get on there.
How can people defend this?
I'm surprised this ended up on steam while games that aren't a scam are not able to get on there.
How can people defend this?
I dunno, ask KKRT00.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Does he think that's a forum? He mentions PMing him with questions, there is no PM system. Some of his "rules" are also things Valve kind of handles, like avatar rules.
also
On an M rated game messaging area :x
Treemonkeys
Member
lmao really?
Change 1 hour respawn to 4 or pay up. Yeah nothing wrong with that.
KittenMaster
Member
I know nothing about how the game works but it sounds like they've already crossed the line where they could be willing to stop you from circumventing the respawn timer in a future patch.
Nah, he's kidding. True hardcore players pay to respawn.
I know theres an appropriate gif for this, come on gaf.
seriously...wtf pay money to respawn faster. fuck that.
Goddamn LOL what an atrocity.
Edit: 12 minutes into TB's video had me rolling. He was being killed by a floating backpack lmao
He's actually a "Community Manager" for War Z's official forums too. I didn't realize Steam board Moderators were from the actual game companies.
http://forums.thewarz.com/member.php?3-Kewk
Yeah, most steam boards have mods from the Game Company. Obviously, they can only mod their own game's board.
What does that even mean?
grimshawish
Banned
Again. This game is on fucking Steam. Hundreds are not.
Fuck it.
Fuck it.
blitzcloud
Banned
/facepalm
Alright. I'm gonna explain it easy.
Imagine you have a game with progression even when dying or no progression when you die. That's what the warZ will do.
Normal mode- You die, you lose stuff, you keep exp.
Hardcore mode- You die. The end.
Normal mode will be that mode to go for those characters you wanna build up. If you DESPERATELY need to level up you may buy a revive (if you can't wait the 4 hours playing another character). Revive means starting again, with the exp/kills you collected.
Defend what exactly? Just please dont write 'the game', write actual things i defended.
It will be 24-48h.
Thats actually valid, it shouldnt be on Steam when other more finished games arent or are denied all the time, and that was the most valid argument in TB's preview.
Treemonkeys
Member
Wow, that might be acceptable if this was F2P.
So XP and skills are actually in, then?
Having to pay to respawn in this game is ridiculous, especially when you consider the heavy PvP nature of the game. There will be people camping spawn points and killing people all the time with their advanced gears compared to the crap you will start with.
The company might as well create bots camping areas to make people cough up the cash.
From the Steam Forums
Dat flawless gameplay huh
Gotta be someone from the dev team. Everyone is just laughing at him
This is the best game I have ever played
This is clearly the best game I have ever seen. Playing with 50 players at the same time without any lag is so exciting! Tell all your friends. It is amazing. Don't listen to any of the haters from earlier. They had trolled you, and now they got bored.
I am moving on to continue playing, because I am already addicted to the flawless gameplay!
http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/828925849071747809/
Dat flawless gameplay huh
Gotta be someone from the dev team. Everyone is just laughing at him
KojiKnight
Member
Has his profile blocked from viewing so can't be sure... could just be being sarcastic. Sarcasm fails pretty hard on the internet.
At least PS2 can handle over 50 people, tanks, air vehicles on your screen. This game can't even handle one other person standing 1 ft away from you.
PS2 is also very FUN... Just watched TB's video and it really is complete shit.
Can't believe that this POS made it on Steam, while other more deserving games are rotting in Greenlight.
Well, Revelations 2012 was put on Steam, so... Anything is possible.
What if you're a terrible player and waste all your character slots before an hour has passed? Or what if you still want to use the skills you unlocked in your main character? Why is it suddenly OK that the devs put an artificial respawn timer, just so they can charge you real money to skip it?
Still the no. 1 seller on Steam right now. It's shameless, but it makes money.