Audioboxer
Member
Whatever their plan, it seemed to backfire a bit. Then again, the Dreamcast didn't live long anyway... eeeek.
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The warez scene is so fascinating
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Whatever their plan, it seemed to backfire a bit. Then again, the Dreamcast didn't live long anyway... eeeek.
Robot Pants
Member
Wow is it 1997 again already?
FreshCakes
Banned
Thought this was about the Sicario scene lol
radios shipping overview
Member
The art and music (demos, intros, MODs) associated with the warez scene are still alive and well and known as the 'demoscene', but it doesn't have quite the same cultural relevance it used to. People are still doing cool stuff with intentionally limited resources, though.
Does the traditional warez scene still exist? It seems like that kind of culture mostly exists in media piracy groups and to some extent in fansub/scanslation groups, but there's much less personal style involved in what's basically just distribution.
Does the traditional warez scene still exist? It seems like that kind of culture mostly exists in media piracy groups and to some extent in fansub/scanslation groups, but there's much less personal style involved in what's basically just distribution.
OP says he's looking for curated documentation and history of the scene, do some people think he's looking for actual 'warez' or just shitting up the thread waiting for it to close?
Snowybreak
Member
Wasn't their "encryption" just the data written in reverse? Or was that something else?
eot
Banned
Wendel Clark
Member
throw them all in Guantanamo tbh
Preservation of any media really. If it wasn't for scene groups there would be a shitload of music that would've been simply lost forever.
Some of them truly look like Marlon Brando!
No, I'd buy it on Steam for 75% off.
I think this blog post provides a good explanation regarding the Dreamcast's disc security:
http://wololo.net/2012/11/12/sega-dreamcast-how-its-security-works-and-how-it-was-hacked/
Edit: just read the comments in that post and it seems there are some errors.
Audioboxer
Member
I honestly have no clue, I just know people were copying things onto CDs and the Dreamcasts were reading those CDs without any pesky soldered modchips.
Ahhh okay, cool. So people were essentially overburning or ripping games and resampling video/audio. Fascinating indeed! The dumping tricks too xD
Heh I also remember these from the PS1 era.
radios shipping overview
Member
Not to mention games. It's common for official rereleases of retro games to use ROMs that were originally dumped and distributed by "pirates."
Software dev houses are historically bad at preserving source code and masters.
Semantics!
Whatever these thieves wanna call it to make them feel better about themselves.
Is that....NOT how it's pronounced?!
Those "thieves" brought a lot to the industry and tremendously helped make it better.
While I understand why some people may dislike the sharing aspect of it, without them large parts of our cultural heritage would have just vanished.
When a few weeks ago the french police closed down t411 some artists and journalists said it was the biggest loss in french culture to evwr happen due to the sheer volume of extremely rare (and otherwise lost) works beeing available on it.
While I understand why some people may dislike the sharing aspect of it, without them large parts of our cultural heritage would have just vanished.
When a few weeks ago the french police closed down t411 some artists and journalists said it was the biggest loss in french culture to evwr happen due to the sheer volume of extremely rare (and otherwise lost) works beeing available on it.
Never said they were equal, just secret clubs that operate 'underground'
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Transhuman
Unconfirmed Member
Without piracy Neflix, Steam and Spotify might not exist and price gouging would be worse. You have benefitted from the existence of piracy.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
It seems the chap who authored the post got a few things wrong in his post - especially the stuff regarding Phantasy Star Online. The comments below the post shed more light on this.
Information wants to be free, man!
In all seriousness... Aside from the obvious reward -- being able to download anything you want in return -- the processes within the scene were very gamified. It was almost like a sport. And of course there is the social aspect that people weren't getting from real life
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Transhuman
Unconfirmed Member
Shalashaska
Member
I learned recently that it's pronounced wearzzzzzzzzz not war-ezzzz.
My mind was blown.
My mind was blown.
Still sounds weird, and very 90's.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
In the case of Denuvo titles on PC, it really is. When those authentication servers go down and all the games that couldn't bother to patch it out after it was cracked, legitimate paying customers will be thanking the scene groups for cracking them.
jakonovski
Member
I remember a time when Gaf argued about whether used games were theft or not.
Tracker codes and composers are really the only people I respected from that scene.
ValkyrUser
Member
Here's to warez for getting me through my poor as fuck teen years back in the early 2000s!
Also that chiptune music was amazing.
Also that chiptune music was amazing.
C'mon and get on the MUD, gonna kill some MOBS.
Just like early Christians?
There were a few articles written about guys who would get CDs from distributors and leak them to the net in the days of IRC and yeah some of those stories are kinda fascinating.
Seeing their group tags in games were always interesting back in the day of 0day stuff, of course most of that is dead now thanks to how easy torrents are to use.
Seeing their group tags in games were always interesting back in the day of 0day stuff, of course most of that is dead now thanks to how easy torrents are to use.
this post got me. 😂
But yeah, in the eyes of the law it's an important distinction to make. Morally, you can feel whatever you want about it of course. I actually saw the demoscene/wares scene as pretty fascinating as well when I was kid. I didn't have a PC before I turned 15 but I had a friend who's dad had their whole PC filled with all kinds of software and games etc. and I was always jealous.
John Rabbit
Banned
For whatever reason (to this day) I read it as "Juarez".
I remember the first time (~12-13 y/o) I said it out loud in front of my friends. I didn't live that down for about a week.
Oh thank god I'm not alone.
I remember the first time (~12-13 y/o) I said it out loud in front of my friends. I didn't live that down for about a week.
Oh thank god I'm not alone.
Sectorseven
Member
I remember the early warez sites were always full of porn ads.
How did porn become synonymous with warez?
How did porn become synonymous with warez?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Did anyone post dope ass keygen music yet?
edit: good job
edit: good job
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
I thought this dude was gonna be talking about that bad ass scene from Sicario when they first go into Juarez and he just spelled it wrong
MilkLizard
Member
Come on now. Is this really necessary?
Early to you is not early warez. Early was pre-HTTP, or at least early HTTP.
Zepp Twofist
Member
Pretty much. I don't see any of the modern content services either existing or being fairly priced if not for piracy.
Man, that first page is weird. Since when is copyright infringement is the same as being a violent racist or petty theft? They are doing the wrong things but they are incredibly talented at what they do. I also think the camadrie the various groups have are neat too. I don't see anything wrong in admiring what they are good at if you know that what they are doing is wrong and you should never perpetrate like that yourself.
Sometimes you gotta respect the hustle.
Sometimes you gotta respect the hustle.