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The water crisis in Flint, Michigan

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PHOENIXZERO

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The Governor's race in 2018 is going to be interesting... But more depressing because Democrats don't have their shit together and the GOP has gained a stranglehold on the state as people continue to leave.
 
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WedgeX

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Odoul said:
Michigan to 6th Circuit: Don't make us deliver bottled water to Flint
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/12/05/michigan-6th-circuit-dont-make-us-deliver-bottled-water-flint/95017134/
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I have a lot of expletives for this situation.

Really not sure how Snyder lives with himself.

How do State Rights people justify the actions of a state that does nothing in the face of poisoning?

I don't know how to fight to make this any better since Michigan's government is led by a party that does not care, Congress and the new President are of the same party and have shown that they also do not care. People have been donating bottled water but that will only help so much. If the UN wanted to step in I am absolutely certain that Michigan or the federal government would put a stop to it.

Just...good Lord. Fuck these people in the state government trying to stop the people of Flint from receiving help.
 
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Peccavi

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The state became accountable for Flint's water when they took away control from the city and put their own emergency manager in charge that fucked everything up. Hopefully the judicial system continues to tell the state government to get fucked.
 
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Peccavi said:
The state became accountable for Flint's water when they took away control from the city and put their own emergency manager in charge that fucked everything up. Hopefully the judicial system continues to tell the state government to get fucked.
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And once Trump's Supreme Court is in place for the next 20 years?

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I have a lot of expletives for this situation.

Really not sure how Snyder lives with himself.

How do State Rights people justify the actions of a state that does nothing in the face of poisoning?
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Snyder hates Black people so he lives with himself the same way Bannon and Sessions et al do. Just another day's work.

States Rights is a code word for segregation.
 
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WedgeX

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The US Congress has (finally) done what the state of Michigan has refused.

Detroit Free Press said:
In some of its last votes of the year, the U.S. Senate early this morning finally approved legislation that will be worth more than $120 million to Flint and its effort to respond to an ongoing public health crisis linked to high lead levels in its tap water.

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“We have people in a crisis situation. This bill needs to get passed for them,” U.S. Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said shortly before a key procedural vote was taken around 12:30 a.m. Final passage followed on a 78-21 vote that concluded about 1:15 a.m.; the bills next go to President Barack Obama, who was expected to sign both.

"Though the state of Michigan has the primary responsibility to support long-term recovery efforts in Flint, the federal government should have stepped in long ago to provide emergency assistance for an American city in crisis,” U.S. Sen. Gary Peters, D-Mich., said after the vote.
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Want to know who in Congress to support with donations in coming years?

For most of the past year, Michigan’s congressional delegation — led by Stabenow, Peters, and U.S. Rep. Dan Kildee, D-Flint Township — have been pressing for funding for Flint, where lead levels in the tap water spiked after the city changed water supplies in 2014.
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Odoul

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http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/12/12/state-officials-advocacy-group-differ-flint-data/95315016/

State officials want a federal appeals court to consider new test data on Flint water when they make their decision on whether to halt a court order requiring bottled water to be delivered to Flint residents at their home.

But officials with the Natural Resource Defense Council say the state’s claim that new evidence shows they are in compliance with the federal Lead and Copper Rule is “misleading” and “inaccurate.”

On Dec. 2, researchers said the quality of Flint’s water was improving and might meet federal lead standards, but a key national expert monitoring the city’s tainted-water crisis said it may never be safe enough to drink until all lead pipes are pulled from the ground.
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I try not to use the word hate with people, but fuck Rick Snyder is unlikable.

All that fake smiling, Kermit the frog, nice guy bullshit is shown for a lie when he does things like this.

America is about to get a taste of what Michigan has been enjoying.

WTF is this world?!?!
 
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Mammoth Jones

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Odoul said:
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/12/12/state-officials-advocacy-group-differ-flint-data/95315016/


I try not to use the word hate with people, but fuck Rick Snyder is unlikable.

All that fake smiling, Kermit the frog, nice guy bullshit is shown for a lie when he does things like this.

America is about to get a taste of what Michigan has been enjoying.

WTF is this world?!?!
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US government doesn't give a fuck about poor predominantly minority areas. Shit, wouldn't surprise me if we found out 50 years from now it was done on purpose by the government.
 
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Phoenix RISING

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Mammoth Jones said:
US government doesn't give a fuck about poor predominantly minority areas. Shit, wouldn't surprise me if we found out 50 years from now it was done on purpose by the government.
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Also do not forget:

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Odoul

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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/house-gop-quietly-closes-flint-mich-water-investigation/

Congressional Republicans quietly closed a year-long investigation into Flint, Michigan’s crisis over lead in its drinking water, faulting both state officials and the Environmental Protection Agency for contamination that has affected nearly 100,000 residents.

In letters to fellow Republicans, the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee said Friday that Michigan and federal officials were slow in detecting high levels of lead in the water and did not act fast enough once the problem was discovered.

The committee findings offer no new information and essentially summarize what emerged during several high-profile hearings earlier this year.
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Odoul

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Holy shit. Emergency Managers are actually being criminally charged.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/12/20/schuette-flint-water-charges/95644964/

Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette announced new criminal charges against four defendants Monday – including two former emergency managers appointed by the state – in his ongoing criminal investigation of the Flint drinking water crisis and lead poisoning of city residents.

In 67th District Court in Flint this morning, officials were swearing charges against former Flint emergency managers Darnell Earley and Gerald Ambrose and city officials Howard Croft, who was public works superintendent, and Daugherty Johnson, the utilities administrator.

Schuette alleges the defendants conspired to operate the Flint Water Treatment Plant when it wasn't safe.
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Schuette and Snyder are both pieces of shit. One is dry dog turd and the other runny goose diarrhea, but both suck in their own ways.

Schuette has been running for 2018 Gov from his attorney general's office since 2011.
 
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WedgeX

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Odoul said:
Holy shit. Emergency Managers are actually being criminally charged.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/12/20/schuette-flint-water-charges/95644964/



Schuette and Snyder are both pieces of shit. One is dry dog turd and the other runny goose diarrhea, but both suck in their own ways.

Schuette has been running for 2018 Gov from his attorney general's office since 2011.
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Never thought I'd see the day.

But gosh who appointed these criminals.
 
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Odoul

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http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/12/27/schuettes-office-okd-flint-order-alleged-tainted-water-crimes/95867220/

Attorney General Bill Schuette's office signed off on an environmental order that is central to new criminal charges Schuette filed last week in his Flint drinking water investigation, records show.

In bringing charges on Dec. 20 against two former emergency managers and two former City of Flint public works officials, Schuette and his investigators said a March 2014 administrative consent order issued by the Department of Environmental Quality never should have been issued, because it was based on a "sham" environmental calamity manufactured in part by former Flint emergency managers Darnell Earley and Gerald Ambrose and former city officials Howard Croft and Daugherty Johnson.

One of the three signatures on the administrative consent order (ACO), which the Free Press first scrutinized in a May article, is that of Assistant Attorney General Robert Reichel of the AG's environment, natural resources and agriculture division.
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That's twice elected Attorney General Bill Schuette.

And he WILL be elected governor in 2018.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/moments/823967857931325440
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This is sort of distorting what they say:

https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/csem.asp?csem=7&po=8

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EPA has set drinking water standards with two levels of protection.

The maximum contaminant level [B]goal (MCLG) is zero.[/B] This is the levels [B]determined to be safe[/B] by toxicological and biomedical considerations, independent of feasibility.

EPA's final rule establishes [B]an action level[/B] is set at 15 µg/L.

The use of lead solder and other lead-containing materials in connecting household plumbing to public water supplies was banned by EPA as of June 1988.

Many older structures, however, still have lead pipe or lead-soldered plumbing internally, which may substantially increase the lead content of water at the tap.

Regulations controlling the lead content of drinking-water coolers in schools went into effect in 1989.

Residents can buy inexpensive drinking water lead screening kits (see http://www.afhh.org/External Web Site Icon or hire professionals to test their water.


https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/basic-information-about-lead-drinking-water#regs

In 1974, Congress passed the Safe Drinking Water Act. This law requires EPA to determine the level of contaminants in drinking water at which no adverse health effects are likely to occur with an adequate margin of safety. These non-enforceable health goals, based solely on possible health risks are called maximum contaminant level goals (MCLGs). The MCLG for lead is zero. EPA has set this level based on the best available science which shows there is no safe level of exposure to lead.
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Safe level of lead is 0. Levels above 15 µg/L are essentially nearing catastrophic and require immediate and direct action.
 
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