WhiteRabbitEXE
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It's fine to have hope, but I don't think it's fine to present news in such a way that it provides false hope.
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TMZ: Carrie Fisher suffers cardiac arrest on plane (Up: in ICU, condition unknown)
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It's fine to have hope, but I don't think it's fine to present news in such a way that it provides false hope.
"Stable" condition actually can imply she's not on vasopressor support, it may mean her heart is beating without the assistance of something like an aortic balloon pump, etc. Assuming someone hasn't misspoken, that's actually good news.
It's not 'false hope'. It isn't a miraculous recovery, either.
It is a status update that reflects a positive step in every generally every clinical sense of the word, given the gravity of her situation and the fact that she may have been actively dying a day ago. From a medical standpoint, it is progress - even if, on the grand scheme of things, it's relatively small, it isn't insignificant in this scenario.
Lifejumper
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Carrie fisher script polishing ESB before filming: https://mobile.twitter.com/mccrabb_will/status/812770891645861888
Stable can also mean stable on the machines. It's too broad a word to get your hopes up. Now if they said stable with out assistance then that would be great.
Man, all the dialogue for the initial drafts of every Star Wars film is always so rough. The cast really worked their magic by getting most of their lines to work as well as they did.
Fisher certainly seems to have a good ear for it! Good changes!
Lifejumper
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"George you can type this shit, but you cant say it!" - Harrison Ford.
Man, all the dialogue for the initial drafts of every Star Wars film is always so rough. The actors really worked their magic by getting most of it to work as well as it did.
DorkLord54
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Man, all the dialogue for the initial drafts of every Star Wars film is always so rough. The cast really worked their magic by getting most of their lines to work as well as they did.
Fisher certainly seems to have a good ear for it! Good changes!
It's one of the (many) reasons why the prequels are so bad, along with Lucas not being a good haracter director. He can write a good premise, but people are not his strong suit.
Skyball Paint
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Her changes made that scene soooooo much better
Dorsal Axe
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Carrie supposedly doctored scripts for the prequels too.
I can only shudder to think what the earlier drafts of those were like.
I can only shudder to think what the earlier drafts of those were like.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I *think* she offered for Phantom Menace but Lucas turned her down. She may have taken a pass at it, though.
Dash_Riprock
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Then George took Harrison's words to heart and began working closely with script doctors and editors to publish and refine his--oh wait no he wrote Attacks of the Clones instead.
VistraNorrez
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She worked on it. Lucas tried to get many people to work on TPM, including Kasdan. I believe Tom Stoppard worked on Sith. Jonathan Hale cowrote Clones, so I'm no sure anyone else helped with that.
firehawk12
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Oh god, yeah, that's right. I remember thinking that ROTS would actually be a good film because of that.
hockeypuck
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The term "stable" is one of the most vague medical descriptors used by doctors. Ask 10 docs what "stable" means, get 10 different answers. Only the term "fever" has more variations. A person can be brain-dead and some docs will consider that person stable on a vent. Literally a dead person. So I don't put too much stock on that term.
Garrett Hawke
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As already said, at the very minimum it means "not getting actively worse". So there's that.
dreamcastmaster
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Yes, glad to hear some posative news. She's going to make it.
Gordon Shumway
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Bunch of negative shit in here..geezuz. Glad she's stable, but a vegetable, or coma or whatever you gloomy folks are into..😕
n0razi
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2016 and all
I hope and pra for the best, but after hearing the details and then hearing she is "stable" I instantly assumed that she was now on a vent and they are giving it a few days before they allow her to pass, likely letting Christmas come and go before doing it.
I know that is super morbid, but it absolutely wouldn't be the first time "stable" was used in such a way. I've heard it with close family before. I hate that term without any other details.
Liamario
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Negative? It's being realistic. Just because someone isn't being positive, it doesn't mean they're being negative. It's not black or white and 'stable' is a very vague term.
Carrie Fisher did her script polish work on The Phantom Menace as well.
Tom Stoppard did script polishing on Revenge of the Sith.
It sucks but I think no news is bad news. I hope she's ok but if she were I think we'd have heard by now
This is silly.
Bruce Springsteen
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At this point, it's really none of our fucking business, let the family handle it
One thing at a time.
Additionally, a person on a ventilator is not inherently unstable.
If she is still on vasopressors, then the person delivering the update is wrong.
Vincent Alexander
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This is pretty awesome. Never knew she did this. She really does an impressive job cutting out fluff. She edits better than I do.
Man, all the dialogue for the initial drafts of every Star Wars film is always so rough. The cast really worked their magic by getting most of their lines to work as well as they did.
Fisher certainly seems to have a good ear for it! Good changes!
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