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TRUTHFACT: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One
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Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Oh yeah no doubt there. Microsoft can throw probably a fucking billion at marketing alone simply to move units, much like they did with the pos that is Kinect. Hell they're even doing the same funding of developments/cash injection shit they did to get some "hardcore" games to round out its roster but for their seemingly nightmarish launch software problems.
TheJollyCorner
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Keep in mind, amidst the $599 US DOLLARS, RIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACER, Giant Enemy Crab/Attack the weak-spot, silly SIXAXIS shit, and other depressing hardware-related reveals, they still showed off Resistance, Motorstorm, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, a LAIR trailer (I believe), the FABULA NOVA CRYSTALLIS megaton (FFXIII and FFvsXIII PS3 exclusive), and a MGS4 teaser for the upcoming TGS.
... and none of those game reveals seemed to help the meltdowns over the various details of the actual PS3.
For those around at the time, GAF was exploding (and not in a good way) over the price and apparent downgrade from the concept videos from 2005.
Will 'games, games, games' be enough for MS to overcome the various issues already out in the open regarding X1?
If so, they'll be a lot luckier than Sony was @ E3 2006.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
It could sell very well, but it's hard to say that it certainly will do well when we have so little information still and when retail gaming is doing so badly right now.
More information (what types of games publishers and Microsoft are making, price, etc) is probably needed to predict its future either way.
It's not just about being a "good" or a "bad" system. I am pretty sure, that the XBone will be a platform with fun games.
It's about all the wasted potential. It could have been much more better as a gaming console. But it isn't for completly stupid and unnecessary non-gaming reasons.
My prediction is come June 11th and the weeks leading up to launch, no one is going to talk about DRM, used games, always online, always on Kinect, eSRAM or downclocking. A lot of people won't care about these things and MS will go smiling to the bank.
Wolves Evolve
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You wont see the multi plats. That's the trick!
Who knows ?
Those predictions from pre-order numbers are no indicator.
If Sony finally implements a decent OS that can compete with Microsoft , there could be a shift as well.
Alot of those people you mention got an Xbox because their friends got one, which isn't given with a non existent install base.
And the already mentioned better OS/cross game chat and so on,but it's a completly new situation :>
Phonomezer
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Quoting himself, speculative articles and youtube parody videos is not a recovery.
I agree. Let's not write doom and gloom to the Wii U yet, though. The Xbox understood by consumers to be a new product, they understand it plays games, and they might be like "eh, what's this?" about the "all in one" stuff, but they understand it's the new console that has the new CoD, and that's enough for a bunch of people.
MS will get the PR part of this thing right, but they won't get the game focus or hardware made right, apparently.
OverBlood 3
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hahaha it is quite a transformation.
soulassssns
Banned
How come I feel like it just isnt a good time to be a gamer? Especially at a time with 2 new consoles coning out. Sometimes I wish there was an internet so I could just be another ignorant customer who makes purchases solely on the new facter alone.
This is depressing. I hope MSFT get their shit together and E3 blows my mind.
/drama queen rant
This is depressing. I hope MSFT get their shit together and E3 blows my mind.
/drama queen rant
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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You have only 7 posts in nearly a year and 4 of them have been damage mitigation for the xbox one
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO FOOL?
Fox Mulder
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I only care so much because I have supported them for two generations and hate where they're going.
MightyHedgehog
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I doubt it. I expect many of those will be swept aside like so many bugs splattered on a windshield within a few weeks of E3 and Build. Maybe there will be some lingering uncertainty on policy still not finalized in public prior to launch, but most things should be cut and dried by then, leaving only those key sticking points to send people one direction or another. The biggest thing that will change over the next few weeks and months, though, is that Sony will become a fully legitimate target for many of the same issues. Gotta admire Amirox's penchant for going balls-deep with his ire, though. Always entertaining and mostly well-reasoned when it's not just OTT rage.
People forget the 360 reveal on MTV
TheJollyCorner
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Damn, Phenomezer, you must be exhausted.
I can only spin so long before I feel like puking. O_O
Liamario
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I think they'll definitely show some games that will reduce the stench coming from this grave they've dug. Also, I think MS will feel that they need to have a lower price point than PS4 if they really want to compete.
It's not like the console will be dead in the water, but for those of us who have certain reasonable expectations, this isn't going to disappear with a reveal of Halo 5 or some timed exclusive.
It's not like the console will be dead in the water, but for those of us who have certain reasonable expectations, this isn't going to disappear with a reveal of Halo 5 or some timed exclusive.
Iacobellis
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$599 is very justifiable, even to this day with the economy being in the shitter. When you see what first parties such as Guerilla Games and Naughty Dog were able to pull off, you would see the PS3 was stronger than the 360. The PS3 was a very premium machine, offering more than what most mainstream computers did at the time. The One doesn't do any of that over the PS4. It is using modest hardware that is being reported as "drastically" weaker than what Sony put in your machine. $500 for the One does not make much sense, and will leave consumers scratching their heads if it happens.
walking fiend
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11957229&postcount=1044Amir0x said:
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edit: but to be honest, this time Xbone "IS" fucked up, which puts me on his side; though never underestimate stupidity of the people that marketing can cultivate
bigboss370
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Microsoft will not have "bad" looking games by any means. I can still be impressed by current gen graphics. So the expectation is that their games will look slightly better than the best current gen console games. I think that's "good enough".
When compared with competition it will be a different story, but the games aren't going to look like shit lol.
When compared with competition it will be a different story, but the games aren't going to look like shit lol.
Other than CoD maybe >_>
Zok310
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I see core fans migrating because of Live (the folks that are pre ordering it now), yes, but majority will most likely reevaluate Live if the console is lacking by such a large margin and if Sony can provide similar service for free or cheaper than Live, and we all know Sony is bringing their A-game to the PSN next gen.
Too much is stacked against MS and Live is not a must have some make it out to be.
Sure will, they've been absolutely killing it to this point. Spot on effort.
DataStream
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I'd like to know how these are interconnected as I don't understand why problems with the memory would result in clock speed being reduced.
Wasn't there something in a leaked document before that showed a pretty large amount of redundant eSRAM on the die in case of issues?
Wasn't there something in a leaked document before that showed a pretty large amount of redundant eSRAM on the die in case of issues?
That could happen if they can actually deliver on what they show off at E3. I'd hope they'd be smart enough to show off actual gameplay on finalized hardware, but if there is degradation between shown and final product, the Internet won't forget for some time.
Yea. Lots of people will love it, but its just throwing coal into the hate train instead of providing anything constructive.
soulassssns
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A reader who has all the systems minus wii u. Neogaf is good for news that hasn't hit other sites yet. If I'm defending the Xbox one, its because I'm sick of all the negativity.
Lambda Pie
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i wonder how much some guys get paid for the spinning.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I'm struggling to find your point here...
They're all on the same die. They could try to salvage some more chips, that were deemed "unusable", by lowering the clock speed to reduce heat. But nobody knows exactly what the yield problems are...could be heat related or it could be a large number of chips just not working.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Yeah........................Ok.
Clearly not enough, because many are not very discrete about it. They aren't that good.
Randolph Freelander
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Can't speak for all, but I was largely Xbox-centric last time around ago and 360-only this gen. I think I have, perhaps not a right, but certainly a privilege to complain about and/or laugh at Microsoft's missteps.
Don't take this mess personally. I don't think you're on Microsoft's game payroll.
Unless you are, of course. I don't know you, so I guess it's possible.
Oh wow...
Man, it's hilarious how some can look back at stuff like this and laugh but yet not realize that they are jumping to conclusions again -- possibly (?) laughing at their current statements 5+ years down the road.
But what do I know?
Iacobellis
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What you say won't stop the negativity. The only people that can climb out of this hole are Microsoft themselves.
Well obviously it remains to be seen, still they seemed confident about what they'll be showing at their supposed "games only" E3 this year.
In the end, people will bend... if they can stomach it.
Wouldn't be surprised if the "games journalist" play turncoat.
SEGAvangelist
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To be fair, the poster may have been lurking ALL THE TIME for that year. There are hardcore Jaffers that don't post.
Wow, lol
TheJollyCorner
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Can you acknowledge the reason for the negativity, at least?
That's the first step.
Get that and that'll lead you to why people are being vocal with negativity.
Thanks. Here is the full list right here now, so it's even more inconceivably awful. you guys are right.
Of course, it is all sourced and most of it is definitely not speculation anymore, but whatever you need to tell yourself to keep yourself together, have at it. I don't require living in that particular dreamland to get by, so whatever floats your boat.
Coulomb_Barrier
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I really can't wait to see proper in-game footage of Xbone games at e3. Then laugh.
Only joking.
Thanks. LOL
There's a whole amount of negativity surrounding the console because it's been an absolute clusterfuck since the reveal. The entire situation is embarrassingly bad.
It's not like people are being negative just for the sheer hell of it. If the PS4's reveal had been as much of a fuck up as this, you can be sure that Sony would have been ridiculed just the same.
jimforspeed
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This is to quiet down some of the already few (proportionally) people that care about low GPU clock speed and bad yields and everything (DRM etc). The rest of the potential customers, who are a completely different group, are not going to give a damn, because they are not aware of these "details" at all. They are just gonna buy that damn thing. Unfortunately. People on GAF or generally on gaming forums, although critical, don't mean anything to MS at this point. It's fairly obvious.
TheBaronOfNA
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In the end, people will bend... if they can stomach it.
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Is easier buy in a impulse a 60 dollar game than a 200+ game machine.
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