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UK Retailer GAME is dead | Brera's Lament

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Omikaru

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Just cancelled my MGS HD order from GAME. If it never shipped yesterday, it's unlikely it'll get here tomorrow. Will go to Tesco tomorrow morning.

Their standards really have slipped since I last bought from them. I shan't give them that chance again.
 
This is becoming a self-fulfilling doom cycle...

let me get this straight: someone anonymous tells the internet their order has been cancelled, and complains on Twitter, whereas you get an email telling you your copy is happily on its way - on time - and you think thats a reason to never shop with them again?

GAME didn't cause you any stress, you were looking for a reason to stress online as a result of this story

The bit about not ordering from GAME again didn't have much to do with the rest of the post, probably shouldn't have included it TBH.

Afternoon on the day before release is very late to be dispatching a pre-order and I don't really like not knowing what's going on with my order. If it wasn't for GAME-exclusive stuff I could have cancelled my order and had it dispatched by Shopto within five minutes.
 
The bit about not ordering from GAME again didn't have much to do with the rest of the post, probably shouldn't have included it TBH.

Afternoon on the day before release is very late to be dispatching a pre-order and I don't really like not knowing what's going on with my order. If it wasn't for GAME-exclusive stuff I could have cancelled my order and had it dispatched by Shopto within five minutes.

I had an order despached from Amazon late yesterday that arrived today (Res Evil Revelations) - I wouldn't worry too much, sometimes its just the lag between them scanning your package and it showing on the tracker. If they actually miss an order, I think its fair enough, but I'm glad you didn't cancel your order based on the online hysteria around this story... you'd have missed out on the exclusive stuff if nothing else.
 

Kyoufu

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So what do people advise doing about the Mass Effect 3 CE?

It's out on my birthday so obviously I don't want to miss out...
 
I had an order despached from Amazon late yesterday that arrived today (Res Evil Revelations) - I wouldn't worry too much, sometimes its just the lag between them scanning your package and it showing on the tracker. If they actually miss an order, I think its fair enough, but I'm glad you didn't cancel your order based on the online hysteria around this story... you'd have missed out on the exclusive stuff if nothing else.

Oh there was no chance of doing that, I've been looking forward to my limited edition tat for months. TBH I was never mega-panicked about this latest news in particular, it's just that this is the only mega-rare collector's edition I've ever really been interested in and as time went on I was getting increasingly worried that something would go wrong, maybe they'd fucked up with the stock or something. And now there's no more Crystal Editions or pre-order bonuses available to order.

Years ago I pre-ordered FFXII from hmv.co.uk, again months in advance. On release day I checked my account to find they'd run out of stock and my order hadn't even been sent. Didn't want that to happen again!
 
May I ask why you feel sorry for them? I absolutely love my job. It's fun to help customers and there are a lot of perks. The pay isn't amazing, but it's minimum wage (like pretty much every other shop job around here.) Plus I work with a fantastic bunch of people, that always helps.

Also, I've heard nothing about holding pay. I'll be damned if they do.

My store seems less interested in helping people, and forcing as much crap down their throats as possible, which only drives them away.
 

CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
I saw you say that you aren't getting many hours. I'm working six days a week with only half-hour lunch breaks for a full day. Yet they still maintain they don't have enough hours to spare to hire anybody else, when we desperately need more people.

Also, my store seems less interested in helping people, and forcing as much crap down their throats as possible, which only drives them away.

How is your stock room looking compared to this time last year?
 

iNvid02

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have £150 on my trade in card, was gonna pony up the rest and get a vita but then i thought nah i dont want one

but now, its probably best to just spend what credit i have left with them on some hardware which isn't as overpriced as games, £229 vs amazon's £219

looks like im getting a vita after all, that should cut all ties i have with them apart from my PS3's extended warranty which i think expires this october,
but its through allianz so that should be alright.
 

Mad_Ban

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So what do people advise doing about the Mass Effect 3 CE?

It's out on my birthday so obviously I don't want to miss out...

Not much we can do, apart from hope they stay afloat until March 9th. Because they decided to be asses and get the CE GAME group exclusive. :/
 
How is your stock room looking compared to this time last year?

A lot emptier, due to various reasons:

1) Fewer people trading stuff in.

2) Fewer "massive" items (ie. Rock Band, Wii Fits, consoles, etc).

3) Less stock in deliveries, as we simply aren't performing as well as last year.

4) We no longer accept retro stuff.


Why do you ask?
 

StuBurns

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I popped into Game today, I was going to buy InFamous 2, do my bit for the rotting apple such as it is, and they had practically nothing, certainly not the game I wanted, either new or used. I imagined it'd take awhile for it to really impact a normal store. I did get to play a PSV though, so not all bad. As bad as the store was, it was nothing compared to the shit show Gamestation was, that was pitiful.
 

CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
I popped into Game today, I was going to buy InFamous 2, do my bit for the rotting apple such as it is, and they had practically nothing, certainly not the game I wanted, either new or used. I imagined it'd take awhile for it to really impact a normal store. I did get to play a PSV though, so not all bad. As bad as the store was, it was nothing compared to the shit show Gamestation was, that was pitiful.

From the outside looking in, it seems they shifted a ton of stock during their Christmas sale. Their sale was very, very aggressive compared to previous sales and even compared to some online stores. It seems like must have been selling stuff at a loss just to get some cash in.

I guess they were trying to get some cash in to cover stocks going forward so it's meant stores are now running dry on titles more than a few weeks old.
 

herod

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I wouldn't dream of buying a Vita if there's a good chance of the company folding and not providing warranty support.
 

Omikaru

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I wouldn't dream of buying a Vita if there's a good chance of the company folding and not providing warranty support.

I just wouldn't buy warranty from them. Sony will support the hardware directly with the consumer where the retail can no longer do so.

Does anyone know know if SCEE sells extended warranty on their hardware? If so, I'd take it out with them rather than buy into anything GAME would try to sell. At this point, you're just giving them free money for something that probably won't last the agreed period.
 

herod

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I just wouldn't buy warranty from them. Sony will support the hardware directly with the consumer where the retail can no longer do so.

Does anyone know know if SCEE sells extended warranty on their hardware? If so, I'd take it out with them rather than buy into anything GAME would try to sell. At this point, you're just giving them free money for something that probably won't last the agreed period.

I'm just talking about the first year guarantee. Better to shop anywhere else.
 
Also, my store seems less interested in helping people, and forcing as much crap down their throats as possible, which only drives them away.

That's of of the main reasons I stopped shopping there. "you know, you can trade this game in when you've finished it!!!!"... well I haven't actually paid for it yet so at least let me buy it before giving me the spiel.
 
I just wouldn't buy warranty from them. Sony will support the hardware directly with the consumer where the retail can no longer do so.

Does anyone know know if SCEE sells extended warranty on their hardware? If so, I'd take it out with them rather than buy into anything GAME would try to sell. At this point, you're just giving them free money for something that probably won't last the agreed period.

Here in Norway you get five years warranty on all electronic equipment you buy by law. If GAME goes bust you'd be fucked on the warranty here.
 

Moobabe

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That's of of the main reasons I stopped shopping there. "you know, you can trade this game in when you've finished it!!!!"... well I haven't actually paid for it yet so at least let me buy it before giving me the spiel.

It's because we're specifically 'reviewed' on certain things in store - we have to mention several things during transactions just to pass while our managers are in store (which is all the time) - it's a completely artificial way to conduct conversation (and I fail it all the time because I'd rather talk to people.)
 

Enco

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Inevitable. There's no room in the high street market for GAME, only indies (interesting stock, not just the latest games) and supermarkets (cheap prices on the new mainstream stuff). Online takes care of everything else.

Try as I might, I can't say as I'll miss them.
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Fuck GAME and their crappy overpriced as shit games.
 

Omikaru

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I'm just talking about the first year guarantee. Better to shop anywhere else.
I get what you're saying, but if GAME goes bust, the onus on honouring any first year warranty would fall to Sony. The reason why it's normally retail's responsibility by law is because that makes it easier for the customer. It's my understanding that retail basically exchanges or refunds you directly, and then returns the faulty product to the manufacturer on your behalf.

However, I've always dealt with the manufacturer, even with first year warranty things, and they've never had any issues provided I can give proof of purchase (otherwise they cover warranty by manufacture date). I've had to return my PS2 four times (DRE), and my Xbox 360 more times than I care to remember, and both Sony and MS respectively have done it gratis when it's under a year old, or was within 1 year of its last repair, or special circumstances (RROD/E74).

Here in Norway you get five years warranty on all electronic equipment you buy by law. If GAME goes bust you'd be fucked on the warranty here.
I don't know how it is in Norway, but we have 1 year mandatory on all electronic equipment, and see above. Sony would take on responsibility if retail could not. Is it not the same in Norway?
 
I don't know how it is in Norway, but we have 1 year mandatory on all electronic equipment, and see above. Sony would take on responsibility if retail could not. Is it not the same in Norway?

It's the retailer's responsibility to honor the warranty. With no retailer it's entirely up to the local PlayStation branch (Vita is handeled by a company called Navigator) if they want to do it or not. I'm fearing the worst.
 
So I popped in to my local GAME store:

Maybe I didn't notice before, but the ratio of new to preowned is fairly ridiculous at points - coupled with signs everywhere telling me to buy preowned.

I have nothing against the used game market myself, but a leading retailer shouldn't place that much emphasis on it.

Coincidentally saw a few games with "Out of Stock, order online" hastily written on a blank case next to them.
 
The problem with video game shops is that they aren't specialist stores, but they should be. I don't know what it's like outside of the UK but here the problem is that GAME (and Game Station) are just run like shops with product on the shelves you pick-up and buy. I see this as a major problem because video games are very specialist and unless you know exactly what game you want to buy, it's a hugely confusing experience.


They treat every customer like a hardcore gamer who knows what game they want, knows what day it comes out and they come in, grabs it off the shelf and heads to the till. They aren't catering for the rest of the market (which is much, MUCH bigger than the hardcore market) that generally don't know what's good and what's bad, and more importantly what's suitable for whoever is going to be playing the game.

If you were to go into GAME and say "I want a Wii game for my 7 year old daughter, it's got to be fun and colourful and easy to play and nothing nasty etc", a typical GAME employee wouldn't have a clue on how to recommend you. They would most likely pass you Mario Bros. Wii, which would be completely unsuitable as it's a hardcore game. FOR EXAMPLE.

The GAME stores here in Norway are much better at this. I think most of their stores outside of the UK are of a much higher standard than the ones in the UK.

So I popped in to my local GAME store:

Maybe I didn't notice before, but the ratio of new to preowned is fairly ridiculous at points - coupled with signs everywhere telling me to buy preowned.

I have nothing against the used game market myself, but a leading retailer shouldn't place that much emphasis on it.

They make a shit ton more money on a used sale than on a mint one.
 

LordAlu

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So I popped in to my local GAME store:

Maybe I didn't notice before, but the ratio of new to preowned is fairly ridiculous at points - coupled with signs everywhere telling me to buy preowned.

I have nothing against the used game market myself, but a leading retailer shouldn't place that much emphasis on it.

Coincidentally saw a few games with "Out of Stock, order online" hastily written on a blank case next to them.
They have to at the moment as there is so little new stock. Might as well advertise what you have.

As for new stuff, Friday's releases are due in a pre-10AM delivery, with enough for pre-orders and free sale (although FFXIII-2 stock is tight and may run out over the weekend). According to the Stock Update report on the computer system, most new titles that have been out of stock for a while are all due in next week too.

Any NeverDead? MGS HD?

Both due in pre-10AM tomorrow morning.
 
Someone in the know - what's the path from here? Under what circumstances to they survive and what circumstances will they die? What happens if performance continues as-is even after the lender support?
 
StuBurns said:
As bad as the store was, it was nothing compared to the shit show Gamestation was, that was pitiful.

Can you elaborate a bit on this for me? Where is your local store? I'd be happy to hear GAF customer feedback to take it on board for our store. Obviously I can't alter prices or give away things for free, but I'd like to hear as much constructive feedback as possible.

I saw you say that you aren't getting many hours. I'm working six days a week with only half-hour lunch breaks for a full day [...] less interested in helping people, and forcing as much crap down their throats as possible, which only drives them away.

It varies, really. Mostly between 16 hours to 24 hours a week (at the moment, anyway.) If I were working 6 days a week like that though, I'd probably feel a lot less motivated.

The shop has had a new manager take over during the last year and he's pretty awesome. We have a positive atmosphere and, while we still push attach / pre-orders / ADC and such, we know when to stop. It's more important to talk to the customer and listen to them, IMO.

So we got 3 copies of Soul Calibur in today - be ready for a huge launch!

We had about 7 or 8 on PS3 alone. Even that still feels a bit lacking.
 
What actually happened?
With CeX and new? I'm not too sure and they don't say but I hear basically NOE threatened them with cutting supply if they stocked imports (why NOE only did this from 2003 I don't know) and probably the fact that the need to import was dropping and the stores expansion into mobile phones etc meant it was easier to do all used.

I remember about 2004 on eBay seeing huge job lots of games and systems on their site. As in 20+ N64s of various regions.

I seem to remember in the Cheap Arse Gaffer thread a mention of Xenoblade for 98p. Why the hell not collect them up in one place and sell 'em on US eBay? You'd easily make twenty times that.
Those copies don't exist. The game was out of stock at £9.99 then went to £0.98 for some reason (could an employee enlighten us), probably for an employee in the one store with a copy left to sell on eBay along with the £0.98 copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy.

So we got 3 copies of Soul Calibur in today - be ready for a huge launch!
Platform split or 3 per system?
 
The shop has had a new manager take over during the last year and he's pretty awesome. We have a positive atmosphere and, while we still push attach / pre-orders / ADC and such, we know when to stop. It's more important to talk to the customer and listen to them, IMO.
Exactly. The manager has a big role in this, if they are supportive and laid back the store will perform well without any aggressive tactics - and without pressure to hit targets the staff are able to be a lot more natural which results in happier customers and better sales. Our store has a lot of very knowledgeable staff that combined can cover virtually any subject you throw at us, and we pride ourselves on offering the best service possible.

I get really sick of hearing people bashing every single employee based on a bad experience at a particular store.
 

LordAlu

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Can you elaborate a bit on this for me? Where is your local store? I'd be happy to hear GAF customer feedback to take it on board for our store. Obviously I can't alter prices or give away things for free, but I'd like to hear as much constructive feedback as possible.

It varies, really. Mostly between 16 hours to 24 hours a week (at the moment, anyway.) If I were working 6 days a week like that though, I'd probably feel a lot less motivated.

The shop has had a new manager take over during the last year and he's pretty awesome. We have a positive atmosphere and, while we still push attach / pre-orders / ADC and such, we know when to stop. It's more important to talk to the customer and listen to them, IMO.

Same. Every time I go to a new town or city I pop into the GAME or Gamestation there just to wander around and get a feel for the place, and it amazes me just how many are so badly run. We try to have fun whilst we work and, although you do have to do the whole push everything spiel it's pretty easy to tell when it's not worth it.

Hopefully the company may move away from the T.A.G. system as they will be moving away from Mystery Shops and on to a new grading system that doesn't involve it.

Those copies don't exist. The game was out of stock at £9.99 then went to £0.98 for some reason (could an employee enlighten us), probably for an employee in the one store with a copy left to sell on eBay along with the £0.98 copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy.

Pretty much this really. Although it was a cracking deal at £9.99 already :p
 

Valnen

Member
Didn't read the whole thread, but isn't withholding wages illegal? If you work, shouldn't it be illegal to not compensate for that work?
 

LordAlu

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Didn't read the whole thread, but isn't withholding wages illegal? If you work, shouldn't it be illegal to not compensate for that work?

Nah, they haven't withheld any wages, nor have they even suggested or implied that any will be in the future. It was speculation by an unspecified source in one article.
 

Moobabe

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It varies, really. Mostly between 16 hours to 24 hours a week (at the moment, anyway.) If I were working 6 days a week like that though, I'd probably feel a lot less motivated.

The shop has had a new manager take over during the last year and he's pretty awesome. We have a positive atmosphere and, while we still push attach / pre-orders / ADC and such, we know when to stop. It's more important to talk to the customer and listen to them, IMO.

We had about 7 or 8 on PS3 alone. Even that still feels a bit lacking.

Can we swap managers? We've got more pre-order cases for REvelations and FF XIII-2 than we will get for the games themselves. Stock levels are seriously low - and our Gamestation had a HUGE stock recall the other day as well.
 
Shall pick up MGS HD from GAME tomorrow then hopefully.

Me too, but from Game Station. Can't wait. :) Though, don't be too offended if there aren't many in stock (unless you have pre-ordered.) The more pre-orders a game gets, the more stock that store has shipped to it. Keep in mind most of these pre-orders are free as well. The HD collection in our store hasn't had a great deal of pre-orders, so we're not expecting boxes and boxes of it.

I get really sick of hearing people bashing every single employee based on a bad experience at a particular store.

Couldn't agree more.

Moobabe said:
Can we swap managers? We've got more pre-order cases for REvelations and FF XIII-2 than we will get for the games themselves. Stock levels are seriously low - and our Gamestation had a HUGE stock recall the other day as well.

Well, we had the same problem with Revelations. We have a whole stack of pre-order boxes and had two titles sent in. I don't blame the manager for this... we only had one pre-order for Revelations so I assumed that's why we only had two sent in. That is unless, the managers order the stock themselves? I'm not entirely sure how the higher up stuff works (I'm just a lackey.) :p
 
Those copies don't exist. The game was out of stock at £9.99 then went to £0.98 for some reason (could an employee enlighten us), probably for an employee in the one store with a copy left to sell on eBay along with the £0.98 copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Actually they probably did, all of the standalone UDraw Wii games dropped to 98p new in the sale and we were specifically sent a couple of copies of each in a delivery. The 98p was probably just to clear the last handful still on the system.
 

Moobabe

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Well, we had the same problem with Revelations. We have a whole stock of pre-order boxes and had two titles sent in. I don't blame the manager for this... we only had one pre-order for Revelations so I assumed that's why we only had two sent in. That is unless, the managers order the stock themselves? I'm not entirely sure how the higher up stuff works (I'm just a lackey.) :p

I meant about how they approach deposits, pre orders etc - we get watched like hawks to make sure we're hitting those KPIs in almost every interaction.

Those copies don't exist. The game was out of stock at £9.99 then went to £0.98 for some reason (could an employee enlighten us), probably for an employee in the one store with a copy left to sell on eBay along with the £0.98 copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy.

They did exist - I bought one. It depends on stock levels - but prices are set by head office, not per store.
 

LordAlu

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Well, we had the same problem with Revelations. We have a whole stack of pre-order boxes and had two titles sent in. I don't blame the manager for this... we only had one pre-order for Revelations so I assumed that's why we only had two sent in. That is unless, the managers order the stock themselves? I'm not entirely sure how the higher up stuff works (I'm just a lackey.) :p

Nah, we have as much control over what comes into store as Sales Assistants. It's pretty much entirely up to the company on what they send us. Obviously, if it's a new release, they base it on previous similar titles along with number of pre-orders. So for example we got just a single pre-order of Metal Gear Solid HD, and no pre-orders at all of Neverdead, so I would be extremely suprised if we got more than 5 copies of each title.
 
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