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[Korranator]

Bunch Of chicken Littles in this thread.

You can always find some Crack pot study about how the sky is falling. This shit been going on since the 1950s. They keep changing the name for it and also keep missing their Armageddon predicted dates. It's all a ponzie scheme designed to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

Just ask Bill Gates

 

[Beastclaw Raider]

Here is a small documentary about bayer, neonicotinoids and bees. Some nice bayer tactics explained in there.

 

[TheDreadLord]

Still plenty of insects here.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

There is no shortage of bugs and vermin in Australia, in recent years we've had some of the worst plagues of locust and mice etc on record.

I do believe we need to be the custodians of our planet but on the surface of the issue here locally in Aus I see just as many birds, bugs and critters since our decades long drought broke years ago.

I should spend some more time educating myself/family for the current day though. One things that really gets my goat about these issues is agriculture and commercial processes are the real change makers. Our lawmakers need to step up and protect as well as promote future sustainability.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

If there is a shortage of insects we should care about, it could be Bees... I won't go into it, because I am not feeling well, atm, but I feel if we need to focus on an insect, let's start with them, first... work our way up.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

It reminds me of the plastic crisis we have going on. If 100% of the world residents decided to recycle that only accounts for like 5-8% of the overall issue. Somehow corporations are just doing whatever the fuck they want while we point the finger at each other.

It's the same as asking people to turn off lights they're not using, etc.

Getting your entire neighborhood to save energy does very little when there are (Google search...) Over 10,000 private plane journeys every day.

Business and the rich or wealthy have disproportionate impact and individuals being asked to recycle their cans or save energy is a smokescreen.

Coca Cola has acknowledged the problematic nature of it's business, which for five years running has been judged the worst plastic polluter in the world. Single use plastic bottles ought to be a thing of the past for all companies by now. But, Coca Cola thinks that change would be bad for business. So, nothing changes. They made some pledges to reduce single use plastics by the end of the decade, sponsored COP27 ...and carried on with business as usual.

 

[RAÏSanÏa]

Noticeably less bugs on windshields than 70s trips to the lake.

Individuals can contribute through their behavior to the development and expansion of ecological regulation across all sectors(since these sectors are made of individuals) to preserve diverse ecology for all the reasons that support biosphere and life.

 

[Beastclaw Raider]

It's the same as asking people to turn off lights they're not using, etc.

Getting your entire neighborhood to save energy does very little when there are (Google search...) Over 10,000 private plane journeys every day.

Business and the rich or wealthy have disproportionate impact and individuals being asked to recycle their cans or save energy is a smokescreen.

Coca Cola has acknowledged the problematic nature of it's business, which for five years running has been judged the worst plastic polluter in the world. Single use plastic bottles ought to be a thing of the past for all companies by now. But, Coca Cola thinks that change would be bad for business. So, nothing changes. They made some pledges to reduce single use plastics by the end of the decade, sponsored COP27 ...and carried on with business as usual.

I agree with what you're saying but not in this case. It's actually the rich corporations that need to do something about this and the people in power.

They're too busy pointing the finger at us about recycling, transport and accusing us of global warming when there is actually problems like this one that they could do something about it.

 

[Beastclaw Raider]

If there is a shortage of insects we should care about, it could be Bees... I won't go into it, because I am not feeling well, atm, but I feel if we need to focus on an insect, let's start with them, first... work our way up.

I agree, the 30 minutes documentary I've posted is worth the time for anyone that is at least open about this.

Hope you get better mate

 

[Mr Reasonable]

I agree with what you're saying but not in this case. It's actually the rich corporations that need to do something about this and the people in power.

They're too busy pointing the finger at us about recycling, transport and accusing us of global warming when there is actually problems like this one that they could do something about it.

I think something might have been lost along the way.

I am saying that business (and governments) need to get onboard fully. Expecting individuals to do enough recycling or lowering of energy use will not make a difference when the major causes of pollution and climate change, and by some margin, are industry and business. As such, we need serious and robust intervention at a legal level, because even when businesses do acknowledge the need to reform, they set targets that are too low AND take too long to implement. Allowing business as usual or long transition to slightly greener practices is not enough.

So I think we're in agreement.

 

[Liljagare]

Lots of people still say nothing is going on, sad. The Monarch will probarly be gone pretty soon, and sobering figures regarding butterflies (sauce, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6615595/):

Region (km2)​	Years​	Sites​	Counted/year (x 1000)​	Annualized trend in total abundance (cumulative)​

United Kingdom (242,500)​

41 (1976–2017)​

3,164​

1,700​

-0.8% (-28%) countryside -2.4% (-63%) specialist​

As a avid outdoors person, yeah, it is still anecdotal, but I mostly only see red hive ants, mosquitos, a occasional poop-beetle, black ants, wasps, a few bumblebees here in Sweden nowadays, where it used to be bugspray *needed*, or, well, wear a bodysuit, it's now wierdly calm. Not even horseflies in areas where they used to be abundant, ie, around horse farms here. Unsure as to what is causing it, but it is noticable. Butterflies have all but vanished.

Atleast here the local municipality have started planting wild flower patches all over in spring, to help out. You can see that the bugs are really drawn to them during summer, and that is where you see the few wild bees too, anything to help is good I think.

 

[Bragr]

You can drop a nuke on half the planet, and the other half will live on normally. We don't react to things unless it's in our faces. And this is one of those problems where can't afford to ignore it, but we absolutely will, and it's gonna come back to haunt us.

 

[Beastclaw Raider]

You can drop a nuke on half the planet, and the other half will live on normally. We don't react to things unless it's in our faces. And this is one of those problems where can't afford to ignore it, but we absolutely will, and it's gonna come back to haunt us.

Yep, my girlfriend works in bio agriculture and they now have to import bumblebees hives for pollination. But hey, global warming and bad citizens, let's ignore this

 

[thefool]

I really enjoy insects, said no one ever under any circumstance.

 

[Tams]

Seriously? Taste seems fairly easy to fix, just separate it from the main source itself, and let people flavor them as desired.

If people already replaced two meals by something efficiently produced and nutritious, it would already be a significant boon.

Taste is only half of eating. Texture is extremely important.

We already have tofu, halloumi, various often fungi-based stuff, etc. And frankly, as well as being tasteless (and therefore only tasting of whatever seasoning), their textures all suck.

 

[Facism]

Taste is only half of eating. Texture is extremely important.

We already have tofu, halloumi, various often fungi-based stuff, etc. And frankly, as well as being tasteless (and therefore only tasting of whatever seasoning), their textures all suck.

A lot of UK helim/halloumi is pretty rubbery with 0 taste. I regularly get it sent over from family in north Cyprus and it's so much more flavourful and has a slightly chewier texture.

Miss my nan's helim ;_;

 

[sono]

mice

Sorry to hear about the challenge with the mice but technically not insects

 

[Lunarorbit]

It's the same as asking people to turn off lights they're not using, etc.

Getting your entire neighborhood to save energy does very little when there are (Google search...) Over 10,000 private plane journeys every day.

Business and the rich or wealthy have disproportionate impact and individuals being asked to recycle their cans or save energy is a smokescreen.

Coca Cola has acknowledged the problematic nature of it's business, which for five years running has been judged the worst plastic polluter in the world. Single use plastic bottles ought to be a thing of the past for all companies by now. But, Coca Cola thinks that change would be bad for business. So, nothing changes. They made some pledges to reduce single use plastics by the end of the decade, sponsored COP27 ...and carried on with business as usual.

I've gotten more and more pessimistic about how humans interact with the environment over the years.

People have destroyed the ecosystem. A mass extinction event has been going on for decades and people just shrug their shoulders. Plastics have completely fucked our hormones and almost none of it is recycled.

Get ready for even more ecological based mass immigration and exodus from places all over the world especially the Pacific around Micronesia.

It was all preventable but people never learn. Fuck it. I'm not going to start littering but I'm a nilihist in this regard.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

A mass extinction event has been going on for decades and people just shrug their shoulders

Or even when presented with the facts say "no problems here!" These are the people that we need to win over.

 

[Wildebeest]

Insects are weak. They need someone to tell them right to their face that they are a disgrace and need to get their shit together.