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[Duke Togo]

BEAM ME THE **** OUT OF HERE PICARD!

 

[White Man]

i still think wii fit has an essential problem to overcome: wiggling and waggling on a bathroom scale doesn't look like much exercise. i've really worked on getting back in shape this year, it's taken lots of running on treadmills and lifting weights, and progress has nonetheless been gradual. it's one thing to pass off crap as entertainment -- nintendo have demonstrated their expertise there -- and it's another thing to pass off crap as a means to improve your health and appearance.

but i guess hl mencken said something i should keep in mind right now

Well, I hate to be a naysayer, but don't forbet that the promo pics showed the scale being used in pushups, too. I am sure they have found ways to work it into other exercises, too. As you said, though, I can't immediately see a way that this can be used for necessary aerobic exercise.

 

[Jon_Danger]

I have a crapload of those forums posts, here is another gem

here is sigurd a.k.a peach lover

These are back from my SA forum spelunking days.

Nintendo fan boys are scary

 

[Doc Holliday]

You know what makes me cry....

Mario, Metroid, Zelda aren't hardcore anymore :......(

 

[dfyb]

HURR BECAUSE GAMES I DON'T LIKE AREN'T GAMES

I didn't like 2 Fast 2 Furious, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a film.

i didn't even say i didn't like it. i think the idea is cool and will definitely fly well with non-gamers.

but comparing wii fit to something like unreal tournament is just retarded.

wii is creating a new market. they are not competing directly in the games market. the different markets should be covered seperately, and differently.

i even support the non-game craze for a variety of reasons.

edit: games like unreal tournament aren't "losing" to games like wii fit because UT isn't even ATTEMPTING to go for the same demographics. they are different products.

 

[Rhindle]

I was kind of surprised at the reaction around here to the Nintendo conference. They did a great job.

In terms of appealing to the core gamer, they didn't have much to show. In terms of appealing to the mainstream press and capturing the aura of the industry leader, they put on a brilliant show.

The big story in all the press coverage will be how Nintendo is leaving everyone else chocking in the dust.

 

[frAntic_Frog]

aha....you gotta love liberal media taylored for consumption by the materialistic masses.....the masses that readily gobbles up BigMacs, Ipods, and Walmart merchandise and whatever other fashionable fad is in with the time lol......psst i have an insider that tells me an anti-global warming green-friendly game starring a talking hybrid will be the next American obsession...but u heard it first here :lol :lol

 

[Slurpy]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

GAF Owned.

 

[mj1108]

I just want to see a three-peat of Gaffers shrugging off a Nintendo product only to have it come back and sell 100 billion units.

1. DS
2. Wii controller
3. Wii name
4. Wii selling

 

[Jon_Danger]

Just be glad this is Nintendo doing this and not Sega. You do NOT want the casual Sonic fanbase taking over, ever

Man, I shudder at the thought of man-babies fapping to pics of rouge topless

 

[cvxfreak]

Did any hardcore gamer on this forum actually believe their opinion actually mattered in the grand scheme of things? :lol

 

[KINGMOKU]

If they did that, then the Washington Post would be seen as a credible source.

GAF treats articles like they do reviews. The only ones that are credible are the ones they want to hear.

There you have it folks.


Man speaketh the truth,


I think whats ruffleing everyones feathers is this;

"Hey Nintendo! WTF?!?!? I'm the hardcore gamer here! Why are you showing a bathroom scale for fat people????"

The hardcore dont like bieng sidelined, or *gasp* ignored.

Hurts when you find out your not the center of the universe, and not even the center of your favorite hobbies universe.

 

[theBishop]

Well, I hate to be a naysayer, but don't forbet that the promo pics showed the scale being used in pushups, too. I am sure they have found ways to work it into other exercises, too. As you said, though, I can't immediately see a way that this can be used for necessary aerobic exercise.

Its just like brain training. Placebo effect.

 

[Nicktals]

If they did that, then the Washington Post would be seen as a credible source.

GAF treats articles like they do reviews. The only ones that are credible are the ones they want to hear.

:lol

Well said.

 

[diunxx]

THEY WILL TAKE OVER!

omg!:lol :lol

 

[Firewire]

yes, I saw that happen.

I wonder what will happen with the next 3 or 4 articles (businessweek.com, money.cnn, nextgen-biz, etc..) that arrive here on GAF. Pretty much every thread is guaranteed to go the way of the forbes one and all of them are also guaranteed to declare nintendo a winner and sony/ms the sore losers, an atrocity in most gaffers eyes.

are those the type of publications, you go to for your gaming info?

 

[capslock]

This gulf between the specialist and the mainstream press towards Nintendo, with the former more critical and the latter basically lavishing praise on just about every endeavour is not the first time this has happened. Something very similar happened with Apple, where a niche company with quirky designs and long history of a cult following finally broke through with a product with massive mainstream appeal: The iPod. And consequently captured the mindshare of both the public as well the mainstream press.

Now Nintendo has done the same with Wii (and to a lesser extent, at least for media appeal) with the DS. What you're seeing now is the development of the same blinders that the mainstream press has for Apple only now it's starting for Nintendo. And this is what should be worrying Sony and Microsoft more than anything. Nintendo sucking up all the press coverage with their upteenth mini-games collection or WiiBreathe means less attention for the hardcore offerings of the other two. And if they try to copy Nintendo they will just get laughed at like the Zune (which is actually a pretty good product).

 

[B-Rad Lascelle]

And GAF leads itself further into isolation. We aren't FACT people, we're ****ing elitist gamers who pick apart everything. And we enjoy it.

Truth be told, mainstream casuals also PLAY more games than GAFFers do.
Surprise, surprise.

 

[Zombie James]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

GAF Owned.

More like gaming's getting owned.

 

[Dirtbag]

we'll never hear the end of this

 

[Jirotrom]

Well, I hate to be a naysayer, but don't forbet that the promo pics showed the scale being used in pushups, too. I am sure they have found ways to work it into other exercises, too. As you said, though, I can't immediately see a way that this can be used for necessary aerobic exercise.

honestly I thought the board was too small, that was My biggest issue with it.

 

[fistfulofmetal]

Did any hardcore gamer on this forum actually believe their opinion actually mattered in the grand scheme of things? :lol

My opinion matters..... doesn't it?







doesn't it?

 

[Campster]

i didn't even say i didn't like it. i think the idea is cool and will definitely fly well with non-gamers.

but comparing wii fit to something like unreal tournament is just retarded.

wii is creating a new market. they are not competing directly in the games market. the different markets should be covered seperately, and differently.

i even support the non-game craze for a variety of reasons.

Different demographics should certainly be treated differently. But that doesn't mean we arbitrarily exclude some of those demographics from our medium by placing them in an artificially created verbal ghetto such as "non-game."

 

[TONX]

Nintendo's conference really made me mad. I dont get why they labeled the wiimote as "teh innovation!" if they were eventually making ANOTHER peripheral to make you move around?

 

[Somnid]

I think Wii Fit's biggest problem is that like Wii Sports you'll need to play it to really get a feel for it.

I mean you guys just write it off so easily...

 

[captive]

How the F*CK are people actually defending nintendo? Seriously?
Shawn Elliot may have been joking but he was absolutly right, Nintendo is taking a shit on all of you and you guys are eating it like its a delicacy.

 

[SonSon2]

aha....you gotta love liberal media taylored for consumption by the materialistic masses.....much like BigMacs, Ipods, and Walmart merchandise lol

right...because PS3 and 360 aren't material possessions that hock micro payments and have IN GAME ADVERTISING that looks to sell bigmacs ipods and other material goods...huh.

Sony and Microsoft, they're in it for the artistic expression only man. They are not massive businesses that sell a whole **** ton of material goods.

*edit: wait...we're you being sarcastic?

 

[fernoca]

I've been saying this since the Microsoft conference..then a hundred times at the Nintendo one...and decided to not reply at the Sony thread....

Not that [insert company here] won E3, but the conferences were supposed to be for the members of the press/media in general, not to the videogames sites, not to the forums reader/posters that were watching the conference on TV and/or online...

Yet, everyone was like "Nintendo dissapointed me", "Nintendo abandoned me", "Nintendo betrayed me"...and quickly started creating threads about who won E3 and Sony, Sony, Sony...

 

[cvxfreak]

This gulf between the specialist and the mainstream press towards Nintendo, with the former more critical and the latter basically lavishing praise on just about every endeavour is not the first time this has happened. Something very similar happened with Apple, where a niche company with quirky designs and long history of a cult following finally broke through with a product with massive mainstream appeal: The iPod. And consequently captured the mindshare of both the public as well the mainstream press.

I remember reading some Mac forumers complain that the iPhone was a bad thing for Apple because it took away resources from OSX.

I lol'd.

 

[mj1108]

Now Nintendo has done the same with Wii (and to a lesser extent, at least for media appeal) with the DS. What you're seeing now is the development of the same blinders that the mainstream press has for Apple only now it's starting for Nintendo. And this is what should be worrying Sony and Microsoft more than anything. Nintendo sucking up all the press coverage with their upteenth mini-games collection or WiiBreathe means less attention for the hardcore offerings of the other two. And if they try to copy Nintendo they will just get laughed at like the Zune (which is actually a pretty good product).

WiiDUI -- A breathalyser attachment for the Wiimote. Then your stored Mii will intake your blood-alcohol-content.

 

[Blackface]

There you have it folks.


Man speaketh the truth,


I think whats ruffleing everyones feathers is this;

"Hey Nintendo! WTF?!?!? I'm the hardcore gamer here! Why are you showing a bathroom scale for fat people????"

The hardcore dont like bieng sidelined, or *gasp* ignored.

Hurts when you find out your not the center of the universe, and not even the center of your favorite hobbies universe.

I doubt anyone would care if they showed even one half decent game for the hardcore audience. You don't win a press conference about video games, by showing a bunch of non games and rehashed bullshit we been getting since N64.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

I wish I lived near some Nintendo fan so that I could go and beat him up for promoting the death of awesome gaming.

 

[Evlar]

Truth be told, mainstream casuals also PLAY more games than GAFFers do.
Surprise, surprise.

Yeah, this is why the "median age of gamers" statistic tossed around is so old (in the mid-thirties). Because for every twenty year old college kid playing Halo there's a fifty year old housewife playing PopCap games.

 

[Ben Sones]

Oh God.

This is why our opinions on what should be at an E3 event don't mean shit.

What do we know? We're only the people who, you know, buy shit.

 

[Kintaro]

Hey guys, I'm gonna go play some Etrian Odyssey. Sounds like it might be fun.

Best post this entire week. I'm with you. Screw all this other noise.

 

[QVT]

honestly I thought the board was too small, that was My biggest issue with it.

The wheel was too small. The board was a bit bigger than my bathroom scale, but obviously too small for most people(wearing a size 14 i have no doubt i'll hang over it like a mofo, much as reggie did).

 

[White Man]

I remember reading some Mac forumers complain that the iPhone was a bad thing for Apple because it took away resources from OSX.

I lol'd.

And some of us still think that. If it weren't for iPhone, we would probably have Leopard now. It's a perfectly valid, if unpopular, viewpoint.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Gaf ---> Internet ----> Gaf


Gaf ----> |||DENIED||| Mainstream ---> Gaf cries

 

[laserbeam]

Last year was the final True E3. Nintendo jumped right on what the new E3 is about. Its a Pure PR straight to mainstream press event now.

Leipzig,TGS etc will be the hardcore gamer shows for seeing things for the future.

E3 is as E3's board said intended to be a pure media event not for gamers.

 

[Jirotrom]

This gulf between the specialist and the mainstream press towards Nintendo, with the former more critical and the latter basically lavishing praise on just about every endeavour is not the first time this has happened. Something very similar happened with Apple, where a niche company with quirky designs and long history of a cult following finally broke through with a product with massive mainstream appeal: The iPod. And consequently captured the mindshare of both the public as well the mainstream press.

Now Nintendo has done the same with Wii (and to a lesser extent, at least for media appeal) with the DS. What you're seeing now is the development of the same blinders that the mainstream press has for Apple only now it's starting for Nintendo. And this is what should be worrying Sony and Microsoft more than anything. Nintendo sucking up all the press coverage with their upteenth mini-games collection or WiiBreathe means less attention for the hardcore offerings of the other two. And if they try to copy Nintendo they will just get laughed at like the Zune (which is actually a pretty good product).

Its all about Creative's Zen M... A great MP3 player that has been totally overlooked.

 

[Campster]

How the F*CK are people actually defending nintendo? Seriously?
Shawn Elliot may have been joking but he was absolutly right, Nintendo is taking a shit on all of you and you guys are eating it like its a delicacy.

I don't know about you, but I don't feel companies owe me anything. I just don't. The fact that Nintendo is making things that aren't necessarily targeted at me doesn't offend or upset me in the slightest.

 

[Karma Kramer]

If Wii transforms the industry into bullshit waggle party crap.. I will be ****ing pissed.

 

[Evlar]

How the F*CK are people actually defending nintendo? Seriously?
Shawn Elliot may have been joking but he was absolutly right, Nintendo is taking a shit on all of you and you guys are eating it like its a delicacy.

See, people accuse Nintendo fans of taking shit too seriously. This post is comedy.

They are releasing a piece of SOFTWARE and an ACCESSORY. It is not a mandatory purchase for anyone. This is not in any way analogous to scatology.

 

[Jirotrom]

The wheel was too small. The board was a bit bigger than my bathroom scale, but obviously too small for most people(wearing a size 14 i have no doubt i'll hang over it like a mofo, much as reggie did).

I don't even want to talk about that crap wheel they displayed. It doesn't exist for me. I don't see how that appeals to anyone casual or hardcore.

 

[cvxfreak]

And some of us still think that. If it weren't for iPhone, we would probably have Leopard now. It's a perfectly valid, if unpopular, viewpoint.

It's valid, but a year from now will the wait really have mattered all that much when Apple as a company would have been much better off? I don't really think so, but people are free to disagree.

 

[YYZ]

Sony, which previously held events that featured such concert acts as Macy Gray and Beck, settled for a low-key sushi shindig this year.

When journalism fails to do its research.

Reggie Fils-Aime, president of Nintendo of America, said the bigger question was how to get the non-gamers of the world interested in Nintendo systems.

 

[Teddman]

i still think wii fit has an essential problem to overcome: wiggling and waggling on a bathroom scale doesn't look like much exercise. i've really worked on getting back in shape this year, it's taken lots of running on treadmills and lifting weights, and progress has nonetheless been gradual. it's one thing to pass off crap as entertainment -- nintendo have demonstrated their expertise there -- and it's another thing to pass off crap as a means to improve your health and appearance.

but i guess hl mencken said something i should keep in mind right now

I know what you're getting at. Wii Sports didn't help my bowling, baseball, tennis, or golf swing for jack in real life. But it was very gently implied that it could, with the whole training single-player mode. They're walking a bit more of a fine line with Wii Fit.

But I think they've been smart enough to show that Wii Fit is a fitness "game" as much as a fitness program. That soccer-header minigame, DDR take-off, Marble Madness tilt game, etc. looked fun and people will remember that most. They won't care if they get a serious exercise benefit as long as it's fun. If they actually made Wii Fit seem like too much work, sales will suffer.

 

[Blackface]

I wear a size 17 shoe, I am 6 foot 10 and left handed. Please explain to me how the **** am I supose to use a god damn wii?

 

[Stormbringer]

Why do I have the feeling that this thread will cause even more meltdowns than the Nintendo conference thread ? To the hell with gaming : this shit is too entertaining.

 

[capslock]

And some of us still think that. If it weren't for iPhone, we would probably have Leopard now. It's a perfectly valid, if unpopular, viewpoint.

Wait, didn't Apple basically confirm that Leopard would be delayed because they were working on iPhone?