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Or maybe they're just not smart and no amount of time can fix it.Clearly you do need more time or else so many people wouldnt be confused.
Or maybe they're just not smart and no amount of time can fix it.Clearly you do need more time or else so many people wouldnt be confused.
"$300 for an add-on? Screw that. I'll get an iPad Mini."
I don't get how anyone can ignore the gamepad. The Wii didn't have one so that should be the immediate difference. All the while with the main console being longer too.
There is really nothing they can do. If consumers are dense enough to understand "the New iPad" but fail to comprehend the Wii U is different than the Wii, then Nintendo cant do anything. Thats like consumers not understanding the xbox 360 is a different console then the xbox.
Basically, consumers are monumental idiots and Nintendo cannot fix stupid.
Or maybe they're just not smart and no amount of time can fix it.
I am amused by everyone saying "that ship has sailed" though. Big thing about marketing is that you can always spin a new message and change the public perception.
Name it Wii2.
Confusion isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be. Even if the public thinks it's a $350 controller add-on, they'll see those blue boxes and know that they need this new thing to play those games, and buy that thing the kids are pointing at.
So? PS1 to PS2 graphics were bigger yet you don't see people claiming Uncharted looks like Crash Bandicoot 1 (or maybe there are, I'll need to do a poll).You mean the new add-on for the Wii. Because that's what it looks like.
Also, you think people are going to notice differences between the Miis, when they've had this for years on the market:
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Nintendo doesn't exist in a vacuum.
Or maybe consumers can understand "the new iPad" because adult consumers find iDevices far more important than "nintendo toys"...
Name it Wii2.
The most baffling part though is that half the press were confused wether the WiiU was a new console or not when it was revealed the first time. I never felt the slightest of confusion.
Whatever Apple does that doesn't seem to have people confused.
Confusion isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be. Even if the public thinks it's a $350 controller add-on, they'll see those blue boxes and know that they need this new thing to play those games, and buy that thing the kids are pointing at.
You missed the point.So? PS1 to PS2 graphics were bigger yet you don't see people claiming Uncharted looks like Crash Bandicoot 1 (or maybe there are, I'll need to do a poll).
Of course you didn't, I didn't or anyone else here didn't. You're on a game forum. This is about getting the message out to Joe Q Public that doesn't follow gaming religiously.
Changing the font and colors of the logo might be a good start. I can't think of any system whose logo branding was composed almost wholly of the exact same logo of its predecessor before 3DS and Wii U. The 'Game Boy' element stuck around, but the new suffixes took up major real estate and the 'footprint' of the logo was changed entirely in transitions.
This "confusion" argument is stupidly overblown.
How big a deal is consumer confusion, really? If people get put off by how much the "new Wii controller" costs, they probably wouldn't buy Wii U as is anyway.
Just about everyone I know of (in real life and online) that work at stores like Gamestop say that it's very common.
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Hey look... that special (original) Wii is blue. Those Wii game boxes are blue too. It must be an overall product redesign for the (original) wii. Those games are for the (orginal) Wii!!!
Name it Wii2.
So they should have branded it NEW Wii like NEW Super Mario Bros. ?People have come to expect yearly Apple refreshes, and new Apple products are always referred to as "the new iPad" or "the new iPhone."
I've had curious people come up to me and ask what the Wii U was (even those who thought it's a controller). I responded "It's the new Wii," and they got it.
Putting things like that, it's like Iwata is masturbating with the brands he created, or were created during his era (and were big successes).Changing the font and colors of the logo might be a good start. I can't think of any system whose logo branding was composed almost wholly of the exact same logo of its predecessor before 3DS and Wii U. The 'Game Boy' element stuck around, but the new suffixes took up major real estate and the 'footprint' of the logo was changed entirely in transitions.
How big a deal is consumer confusion, really? If people get put off by how much the "new Wii controller" costs, they probably wouldn't buy Wii U as is anyway.
Uhh... this is irrelevant to the issue I was confronting.You missed the point.
Regardless of whether you think the Miis are a dramatic improvement that everyone should be in awe of, Nintendo doesn't exist in isolation.
It released new hardware that looks the same as the old hardware, with software that doesn't look any better than what's been on the market for three-quarters of a decade.
They called it the Wii U; something that has no real meaning.
Their point of differentiation looks like an add-on sitting atop their old hardware.
It's also seemingly being shelved alongside Wiis and Wii software.
That's a recipe for brand confusion.
Changing the font and colors of the logo might be a good start. I can't think of any system whose logo branding was composed almost wholly of the exact same logo of its predecessor before 3DS and Wii U. The 'Game Boy' element stuck around, but the new suffixes took up major real estate and the 'footprint' of the logo was changed entirely in transitions.
This "confusion" argument is stupidly overblown.
Just about everyone I know of (in real life and online) that work at stores like Gamestop say that it's very common.
While they don't equal everybody, just them alone admitting to the fact means that it isn't overblown at all.
This "confusion" argument is stupidly overblown.
You took issue with the idea that Miis essentially look the same to people. You think they're some sort of dramatic improvement. Over the Wii Miis, they presumably are. It doesn't matter.Uhh... this is irrelevant to the issue I was confronting.
That's what I was thinking too, but the reports are so widespread you almost have to take them seriously at this point.
Maybe they would buy it if they did think it was a new system instead of just a new controller for a system that they haven't played in months (or even years).
It can cause people to get put off by it in multiple ways.
Being astounding doesn't matter. The two are still not the same. I'm not sure why you would argue beyond that.You took issue with the idea that Miis essentially look the same to people. You think they're some sort of dramatic improvement. Over the Wii Miis, they presumably are. It doesn't matter.
To eyes that have been looking at HD graphics for years, that difference isn't astounding. They still just look like Miis.